From bens Thu Jul 1 00:34:14 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i614YEF8016173 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 00:34:14 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i614YEbl016172 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 00:34:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 00:34:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200407010434.i614YDYl016168@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Disco Muffler Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Keith wrote: > The pipe joints are leaking and the muffler has 3 small holes > near the inlet tube. Options... > NRP system is $1431.00 it's the y pipes back. > Borla system is $599.95, it's the muffler back, all stainless > Flowmaster $??? too loud, had one on the Jeep grand Cherokee. > Stock - will just rust out again > Replace the donuts and joint washers and weld up the holes? Trying to weld or repair a rusty exhaust system will not last long (I've done it). The most important question is how long do you plan to keep the Disco? If it is less than 7 years just get a stock replacement system. A stock system will not cost much if you shop around and they are easy to install. A stainless systems will cost a lot more and take a lot longer to install since I have never heard of one that uses the exact same mounting points. I have also never heard of a cat back exhaust system that gives any substantial improvement in power to a modern engine. Kevin From bens Thu Jul 1 01:00:03 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61503F8017563 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 01:00:03 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61503xY017562 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 01:00:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 01:00:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200407010500.i615029u017558@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The remans do not last very long that is why Rover only offers new (as there remans didn't last more than a few weeks if at all) even the Bosch remans wont last (And don't get me started on the Kragen alternators....) My preference would be for a good used. Later Aidan Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail, Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying "Dude, that was awesome " http://community.webshots.com/user/auditech ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco > > Thanks TeriAnn, > I found a Remanu unit with 1yr warranty for $207.00 at Kragens. But I > am a little leary of remanus. Cheapest new Bosch I have found is around > $210.00 and a "ND" brand from UK for $345.00. any opinions on Bosch or > "ND"? > Thanks, > Chris > ----- Original Message ----- [ 19 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 1 02:02:02 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61622F8020083 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:02:02 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61622pO020082 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:02:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 02:02:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200407010602.i616213x020078@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I spent $25000 on mine 3 years ago. $7700 for a Disco XD, you gotta be kidding. I've had over $13,600 worth of warranty claims on mine. The warranty cancelled itself at 96,000 miles because the claims exceeded the value of the vehicle! Out of pocket has been: $1000 60k Service $1000 90k Service $1500 for an engine wiring harness $350 for a throttle potentiometer $1700 Springs, shocks, brakes rotors and pads $650 Tires $2000 Blue Lake trip damage, wet sand, XD sticker kit, new hood sticker Feels like at least $2,000,000 on gas! Now I need a new exhaust, brakes squealing again, rear door won't unlock and the check engine light is on again. I'll have another $7700 in by the end of the week!!!!! I should have totaled it long ago... Pam's had enough of it and I'm nearing my limit too. We actually drove the Lexus for two weeks now and it hasn't had a single problem. TWO WEEKS with out a problem in I car I own is a new friggin record!!!! I'm beginning to think that one Rover is as much as I can afford. I was out of control thinking that three was a good idea. Cheers, Keith From bens Thu Jul 1 09:30:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61DUPF8005862 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:30:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61DUPVi005861 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:30:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:30:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011330.i61DUPN3005857@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > (And don't get me started on the Kragen alternators....) Just lucky I guess. I've been running trouble free with a Delco remanufactured alternator purchased from Kragens for 5 years now, knock on coulomb units. I spent the extra dollars for a perpetual warranty so hopefully I'll never have to buy another one. > My preference would be for a good used. Or a good local automotive electrical repair shop. They still have those don't they? From bens Thu Jul 1 09:45:42 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61DjgF8006523 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:45:42 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61DjgRY006522 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:45:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:45:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011345.i61DjfaM006518@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Benjamin Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200407010602.i616213x020078@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org>you wrote: > We actually drove > the Lexus for two weeks now and it hasn't had a single problem. TWO > WEEKS with out a problem in I car I own is a new friggin record!!!! Funny I have the reverse problem at home. As of now we have 3 running cars: 94 Disco, 73 101FC and 86 BMW 325. The least reliable one is the BMW. (to be fair it has 225,000 miles on it and we got it for a 6 pack of beer and a known bad univsal joint). We've had no end of coolant issues: blown heater core, bad water pump, various hoses (and replacements) going. The Land Rovers start and run with no fuss. So the other week Christina decided to pick up the Disco from the train station and leave her BMW in it's place so that she could do some extended errands with the reliable vehicle. The Disco decided to blow the expansion tank and drop the coolant. She shut it down when she saw the steam and the temp guage rising. It's really annoying when your tow vehicle is down. I had to get home and get the 101 for the rescue. I ended up duct taping the tank and running with the cap off so that the coolant loss was in drips rather than a flow. Back roads, some topping off and half dozen coolant level checks got the Disco home. A new part from ABP had it running 2 days later. My Dora project stalled due to construction demanding time (I've got a footing poured now) and I need to weld up the bulkhead. But first I need to get the cement mixer working. Ben From bens Thu Jul 1 09:48:03 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61Dm3F8006550 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:48:03 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61Dm3Lm006549 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:48:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:48:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011348.i61Dm36s006545@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue B To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, Sherman has a rebuilt Delco Alternator from Kragens for 8-9 years now. Bob B At 09:30 AM 7/1/2004 -0400, you wrote: > > (And don't get me started on the Kragen alternators....) > >Just lucky I guess. I've been running trouble free with a Delco >remanufactured alternator purchased from Kragens for 5 years now, knock >on coulomb units. I spent the extra dollars for a perpetual warranty >so hopefully I'll never have to buy another one. > > > > My preference would be for a good used. [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 1 10:22:47 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61EMlF8007997 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:22:47 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61EMl2N007996 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:22:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:22:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011422.i61EMk5P007992@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 23:02, Keith Shukait wrote: > I'm beginning to think that one Rover is as much as I can afford. I > was out of control thinking that three was a good idea. > BTDT! It wasn't an can I afford it thing , more of a to many beasts in the driveway, and to much maintenance time. > Cheers, > > Keith -- TomW From bens Thu Jul 1 11:09:28 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61F9SF8009860 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:09:28 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61F9SJb009859 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:09:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:09:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011509.i61F9SSh009855@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- tomw wrote: > On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 23:02, Keith Shukait wrote: > > > I'm beginning to think that one Rover is as much as I > can afford. I > > was out of control thinking that three was a good idea. > BTDT! It wasn't an can I afford it thing , more of a to > many beasts in > the driveway, and to much maintenance time. yeah! so you pawn them off on me! ;-) but as most of you know, I've been diagnosed as slightly loony car-wise, huh? ;-) who else would own between 2 and six british cars at once...and think that is "normal" Paul (If I had been in town instead of working in santa rosa, I would have found a way to buy the 101 too! dad woulda loved driving it with RAF Alcombury markings on it..is what he wants for my next one so I can leave it there for him to use, and keep charged for when I go rovering in North CA..eventually..) From bens Thu Jul 1 11:15:01 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61FF1F8010151 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:01 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61FF1Ur010148 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011515.i61FF1wO010135@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks for all the great and honest feedback. The consensus is not to go with a Bosch remanufactured alternator. How about a new Bosch alternator? I found a new "ND" brand alternator made in the UK available in the US for $350.00 with shipping. Any comments on the "ND" brand? Any comments on the Mean Green alternator? (installation, durability, etc.) Tom, your used alternator for $300.00 + S/H is looking pretty good. I'll need to change out the pulley to the larger 67mm diameter. I think yours has a 52mm pulley. Any ideas on the cost and time involved to change the pulley. Chris From bens Thu Jul 1 11:15:54 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61FFsF8010296 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:54 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61FFsxg010295 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:15:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011515.i61FFs0v010291@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Try Auto Lectrics in Campbell. 408-559-3540. They were/are the supplier for LRSJ rebuilt alternators. From bens Thu Jul 1 12:40:06 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61Ge6F8013591 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:40:06 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61Ge6Zr013590 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:40:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:40:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011640.i61Ge67A013586@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >>> chrisdejesus@trimapintl.com 07/01/04 08:15AM >>> ...The consensus is not to go with a Bosch remanufactured alternator.... Chris Then how about a LUCAS reman? Har! From bens Thu Jul 1 13:54:50 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61HsoF8016657 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:54:50 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61Hso7K016656 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:54:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 13:54:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011754.i61HsnRP016652@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Alan Giblin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org If you are in the NorthBay there is a place in Santa Rosa called Delta Battery, they will rebuild Rover starters and alternators, they have been doing awesome work for me for years now. Alan >> (And don't get me started on the Kragen alternators....) > >Just lucky I guess. I've been running trouble free with a Delco >remanufactured alternator purchased from Kragens for 5 years now, knock >on coulomb units. I spent the extra dollars for a perpetual warranty >so hopefully I'll never have to buy another one. > > >> My preference would be for a good used. [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 1 14:24:00 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61INxF8017995 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:23:59 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i61INxeQ017994 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:23:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:23:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200407011823.i61INxXR017990@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, Thanks for the humor, it helped to lighten an already stressful day. Alan, I wish I could make it to the North Bay, Delta Battery sounds like a good option. FYI, The "ND" unit (made in the UK) was also a remanu. unit. The salesman was quite honest and wouldn't sell me the Bosch unit because of the high failure rate. He said that he had sold 15 ND alts in the last month and has never had one returned. I talked to 4X4 connection and they didn't feel comfortable selling me a Mean Green alternator. They have experienced veeeeerrrrry slow product delivery (2-3 months at times) and poor customer service. I have decided to take TeriAnn's advice and go with BritPac. They have brand new Marelli's in stock for $319.00 with a 12 mo. warranty. Thanks again to all and I hope to see some of you on Cope's Blue Lake Trek or any other LR adventure. Regards, Chris DeJesus Mudy_ovl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Giblin" To: Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco > > If you are in the NorthBay there is a place in Santa Rosa called Delta Battery, > they will rebuild Rover starters and alternators, they have been doing awesome > work for me for years now. > > Alan > > > >> (And don't get me started on the Kragen alternators....) > > > >Just lucky I guess. I've been running trouble free with a Delco > >remanufactured alternator purchased from Kragens for 5 years now, knock [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 1 20:43:56 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i620htF8002683 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:43:55 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i620htYw002682 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:43:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:43:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020043.i620htZ2002678@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'll look into it On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 08:15, Chris De Jesus wrote: > Thanks for all the great and honest feedback. The consensus is not to go > with a Bosch remanufactured alternator. How about a new Bosch alternator? > I found a new "ND" brand alternator made in the UK available in the US for > $350.00 with shipping. Any comments on the "ND" brand? Any comments on the > Mean Green alternator? (installation, durability, etc.) > > Tom, your used alternator for $300.00 + S/H is looking pretty good. I'll > need to change out the pulley to the larger 67mm diameter. I think yours > has a 52mm pulley. Any ideas on the cost and time involved to change the [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] -- TomW From bens Thu Jul 1 20:45:14 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i620jEF8002812 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:45:14 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i620jE4A002811 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:45:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 20:45:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020045.i620jE6n002807@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ok, I won't look into it :) On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 11:23, Chris De Jesus wrote: > Eric, > Thanks for the humor, it helped to lighten an already stressful day. > > Alan, > I wish I could make it to the North Bay, Delta Battery sounds like a > good option. > > FYI, > The "ND" unit (made in the UK) was also a remanu. unit. The salesman [ 34 additional quoted lines pruned. ] -- TomW From bens Thu Jul 1 21:28:13 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i621SDF8004493 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:28:13 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i621SDiR004492 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:28:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:28:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020128.i621SDJW004488@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Another data point: Last year I had a disapointing experience getting Mean Green to repair my starter (that's supposed to last a lifetime). Total turn around time was 4 wks. Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:23:59 -0400 From: "Chris De Jesus" Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco ............I talked to 4X4 connection and they didn't feel comfortable selling me a Mean Green alternator. They have experienced veeeeerrrrry slow product delivery (2-3 months at times) and poor customer service. ......... Regards, Chris DeJesus __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Thu Jul 1 23:14:04 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i623E3F8008806 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:14:03 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i623E3Qs008805 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:14:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:14:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020314.i623E3d6008796@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: LR Quality Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Keith wrote: > I spent $25000 on mine (Disco XD) 3 years ago. $7700 for a Disco XD, > you gotta be kidding. I've had over $13,600 worth of warranty claims > on mine. The warranty cancelled itself at 96,000 miles because the claims > exceeded the value of the vehicle! As much as people like to complain about the new Land Rovers it sure seems like the quality is improving. I've been talking to a lot of current BMW powered Range Rover owners (since as soon as they drop in price a little more I'm going to start looking for one to replace the HSE) and I'm amazed how many people have had zero problems. I bought my HSE with a little over 60K miles two years ago and It will turn over 90K this summer. The HSE has been the most problem free vehicle I have ever owned. A few years ago Jag was number one in the JD Power quality survey and since we know Ford didn't design the LR3 to outperform a D90 off road it sure would be nice to see if Ford "quality is job one" guys can get a Land Rover product up there with the Japanese on the quality charts. Kevin From bens Thu Jul 1 23:14:04 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i623E4F8008813 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:14:04 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i623E4CG008810 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:14:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:14:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020314.i623E3i0008801@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Chris wrote: > I found a Remanu unit with 1yr warranty for $207.00 at Kragens. Then Aidan wrote: > The remans do not last very long that is why Rover only offers new > (as there remans didn't last more than a few weeks if at all) even the > Bosch remans wont last (And don't get me started on the Kragen > alternators....) My preference would be for a good used. I agree with Aiden and would only buy a rebuilt alternator if I was planning to sell the vehicle within a year and would only buy a Kragen alternator if I was selling the vehicle within a week. Back in college I couldn't afford the $200+ OEM new Toyota alternator for my 4x4 so I bought a rebuilt alternator at Kragen for $39.99 with a "lifetime warrantee" when the third one went bad within a year (in San Filipe Mexico so I had to swap batteries with a friend to get home) I went down to the Toyota dealer and paid more than my monthly rent at the time for a new factory OEM Toyota alternator. I have had half a dozen other rebuilt alternators (and a few rebuilt starters) go bad in under a year so now I always buy new. I paid over $400 for the new OEM Magneti Marelli sp? alternator for my Classic (more than I paid for any new BMW Bosch alternator) and it bolted right in and I never had a problem with it. Kevin From bens Thu Jul 1 23:47:53 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i623lrF8010256 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:47:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i623lr4t010255 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:47:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:47:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020347.i623lqwf010251@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...exactly WHAT are you saying here??? that I'M crazy??? After I went to YOUR schools, to YOUR churches, and to YOUR institutional learning facilities? (sounds like a song, doesn't it?...) Charles - all I wanted was a Pepsi - just one Pepsi... '62 109 '64 109 (project) '65 109 (project) '65 Dormie '66 Dormie '67 109 '58 XK150 '59 TR-3 '69 MGBGT (x2) '80 SD1 -----Original message----- From: Paul Archibald androbus@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:09:28 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale > but as most of you know, I've been diagnosed as slightly > loony car-wise, huh? ;-) who else would own between 2 and > six british cars at once...and think that is "normal" From bens Thu Jul 1 23:48:57 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i623mvF8010271 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:48:57 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i623mvfq010270 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:48:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:48:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020348.i623mvN5010266@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org So, you're saying that I can take the XD off your hands for $500????? :) Charles -----Original message----- From: Keith Shukait shukait@mac.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:02:02 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale > > I spent $25000 on mine 3 years ago. $7700 for a Disco XD, you gotta be > kidding. I've had over $13,600 worth of warranty claims on mine. The > warranty cancelled itself at 96,000 miles because the claims exceeded > the value of the vehicle! > > Out of pocket has been: > > $1000 60k Service [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Jul 2 00:45:19 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i624jJF8014265 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 00:45:19 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i624jJRh014264 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 00:45:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 00:45:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020445.i624jISm014260@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Re: LR Quality Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The new BMW range rovers worry me electrically, 27 computers with a can data network all running on 12V, supported by a 150A water-cooled Alternator, I would stay away from a 2003, as they started to figure out more by 04, try to find one running factory 20" wheels as the 19" Goodyear's tend to give you a good massage....... they do tend to have more squeaks and noises than the older ones. But the power is nice. and the stereo is pretty impressive. Later Aidan Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail, Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying "Dude, that was awesome " http://community.webshots.com/user/auditech ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: LR Quality > > Keith wrote: > > > I spent $25000 on mine (Disco XD) 3 years ago. $7700 for a Disco XD, > > you gotta be kidding. I've had over $13,600 worth of warranty claims > > on mine. The warranty cancelled itself at 96,000 miles because the claims > > exceeded the value of the vehicle! > > As much as people like to complain about the new Land Rovers it sure seems > like the quality is improving. I've been talking to a lot of current BMW > powered Range Rover owners (since as soon as they drop in price a little > more I'm going to start looking for one to replace the HSE) and I'm amazed > how many people have had zero problems. I bought my HSE with a little over > 60K miles two years ago and It will turn over 90K this summer. The HSE has > been the most problem free vehicle I have ever owned. A few years ago Jag > was number one in the JD Power quality survey and since we know Ford didn't > design the LR3 to outperform a D90 off road it sure would be nice to see if > Ford "quality is job one" guys can get a Land Rover product up there with > the Japanese on the quality charts. > > Kevin > > From bens Fri Jul 2 00:54:11 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i624sAF8014575 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 00:54:10 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i624sAKH014574 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 00:54:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 00:54:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200407020454.i624sAux014570@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kragen can manage the US stuff pretty well but they have trouble with the European, the last Kragen type rebuilt alternator I removed from a VW Jetta had a piece of a beer can behind the bearing..... The problem with SOME (not all) of the local elect. shops is they source there parts from the same place as Kragen, usually going for the cheaper pattern part rather than the quality OE type part. (just my opinion, from working on European cars here in the US for 13 years) Later Aidan Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail, Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying "Dude, that was awesome " http://community.webshots.com/user/auditech ----- Original Message ----- From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" To: Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:30 AM Subject: Re: Alternator for 95 Disco > > > (And don't get me started on the Kragen alternators....) > > Just lucky I guess. I've been running trouble free with a Delco > remanufactured alternator purchased from Kragens for 5 years now, knock > on coulomb units. I spent the extra dollars for a perpetual warranty > so hopefully I'll never have to buy another one. > > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Jul 2 10:07:51 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i62E7pF8004514 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:07:51 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i62E7p1q004513 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:07:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:07:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200407021407.i62E7oWO004509@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LR Quality Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This reminds me: Remember a few weeks ago when I had fuel filter leak problems with the Ford??? Well...it came back to haunt me a couple of times, and Ford finally decided to rip the whole filter assembly out, and replace it with a new one: they ordered a replacement, and Detroit sent them a warranty return from another dealer! So, they ended up yanking one off of a new truck in their lot!!!!!(I needed the truck that week & couldn't wait for Detroit to get their act together) A few days later, I'm down at Russ Wilson's place helping him load up the moving truck, and I noticed the revocery tank was near empty, so I topped it off. Next day it was empty again, and I noticed a leak! So, back to a Ford dealer in Fullerton, and they founf that a spring-loaded hose clamp had lost its spring, replaced it, and I was on my way again. So far, no more problems. Charles -----Original message----- From: "Aidan McLeer" rally3@surewest.net Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:45:19 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LR Quality > > The new BMW range rovers worry me electrically, 27 computers with a can > data network all running on 12V, supported by a 150A water-cooled > Alternator, I would stay away from a 2003, as they started to figure out > more by 04, try to find one running factory 20" wheels as the 19" > Goodyear's tend to give you a good massage....... > they do tend to have more squeaks and noises than the older ones. > But the power is nice. and the stereo is pretty impressive. > [ 48 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Jul 2 12:41:27 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i62GfRF8011135 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:41:27 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i62GfR3G011134 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:41:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:41:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200407021641.i62GfRwK011130@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Elam, Gerry \(Corporate\)" To: Subject: RE: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh great.... just when I was starting to talk to Sandy about obtaining another LR and she says, "look at how much time you have for other things. The garage is nice.... your hands aren't filthy....you've picked up another hobby (flying electric rc airplanes).... you took a trip on the motorcycle to Utah in May... you're going to Ouray in another three weeks on the bike.... are you sure you want another LR? Then, your note appears...whose side are you on??!! Cheers, Gerry PHX AZ Keith says.... Out of pocket has been: $1000 60k Service $1000 90k Service $1500 for an engine wiring harness $350 for a throttle potentiometer $1700 Springs, shocks, brakes rotors and pads $650 Tires $2000 Blue Lake trip damage, wet sand, XD sticker kit, new hood sticker Feels like at least $2,000,000 on gas! From bens Fri Jul 2 12:49:53 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i62GnrF8011350 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:49:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i62Gnrix011349 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:49:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:49:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200407021649.i62Gnr68011345@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: For Sale: 94 D-90, white, in San Carlos Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org NO, NO, NO...it's not Spot! Driving down Industrial Rd. in San Carlos yesterday, north of Holly, I spied a 94 D90 with a "for sale" sign in the window at a body shop called Automotive Enterprise. I don't know the truck or the seller so all usual disclaimers apply. Allegedly it belonged to the body shop owner's daughter. It appears to have been minimally off roaded. Body looks in very good condition and no easily deduced damage or repairs. tailpipe is rusted through at least at the end 83,000 miles on odometer ARB front bumper with Warn M10,000 winch new top, not 94 style tully roof rack ARB locker (sway bars are still on) OME shocks and longer springs I think #920 SALDV2284RA940240 Asking $28,000 (650) 592-7141 From bens Fri Jul 2 13:17:45 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i62HHjF8012552 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:17:45 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i62HHj9v012551 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:17:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:17:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200407021717.i62HHjiL012547@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Joe Ward To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org To be fair to Land Rover, it seems like only the wiring harness, which SHOULD have been found under warrenty, the throttle potentiometer and maybe the springs were due to LR quality issues. Isn't the rest due to "normal" wear and tear? I bet that any other vehicle of similar age, size, weight, power and usage would show similar maintenance costs. And if you had more Land Rovers the wear-n-tear expense would be spread among them, not necessarily multiplied. Joe ----------------------- Out of pocket has been: $1000 60k Service $1000 90k Service $1500 for an engine wiring harness $350 for a throttle potentiometer $1700 Springs, shocks, brakes rotors and pads $650 Tires $2000 Blue Lake trip damage, wet sand, XD sticker kit, new hood sticker Feels like at least $2,000,000 on gas! Now I need a new exhaust, brakes squealing again, rear door won't unlock and the check engine light is on again. From bens Fri Jul 2 13:45:25 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i62HjPF8013870 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:45:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i62HjPNb013869 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:45:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:45:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200407021745.i62HjPCg013865@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: Rubicon Work Weekend [Fwd: July 17 communications] Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ message/rfc822 ] [ 21 lines filtered. ] --------------84B7B96920F331869D749C7C The Friends of the Rubicon, a non-profit organization dedicated to keeping the Rubicon trail open, is looking for some Amateur Radio communications support for their July 17 work day. I am not available that weekend but will help coordinate, if necessary, to help any Rover Hams that want to help out. NCRC has provided the communications team for several of these work days. Bruce Bonar NCRC Public Affairs Officer KF6QBF --------------84B7B96920F331869D749C7C X-pstn-levels: (S: 4.98929/99.17933 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 X-pstn-addresses: from [210/9] X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hi Bruce, Did you see we were going to be working on the Wentworth access to the Rubicon, July 17th. One day. Any chance of getting a couple HAMM guys/gals up there for the day? We'll be spread out over three miles. See the plan here: http://www.delalbright.com/Rubicon/workday_july17_04.htm thanks, Del --------------84B7B96920F331869D749C7C-- From bens Sat Jul 3 02:20:20 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i636KKF8013256 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 02:20:20 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i636KKmD013255 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 02:20:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 02:20:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200407030620.i636KKkO013251@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: sightings between here & San Diego... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Flying J truck stop - Bakersfield, on Wednesday - P-38A Rangie with a boat on a trailer Miramar Bl., San Diego, right outside Miramar MCAS - white D-90 kitted-out to the limit - driver forgot to shut the swing-away tire carrier!!!!!!! (truck had the number 97 on it - I think...maybe 79 - seems he does lotsa off-roading, and I've seen this truck in L.A. in the past) 99 south in Fresno this morning - classic Rangie LWB moving very fast...Paul, was this you or Elisa??? I made it down there in one piece, found the place where I was loading the trailer, dropped the trailer & made it to a Motel 6 (none of them in SD have truck parking). EVERYTHING was closed after 2200, so I had to find a place where I could find dinner, got up at 0500, spent the day loading up the trailer, then I find that the drive axle was about 7000lbs overweight!!!!! (we could only get a two-axle tractor...) After spending 5hrs and 4 trips to truck scales (they close early in SD too - had to head down near the border to get the last two scales done), I was finally good to go back to Visalia, except for one thing - no bill of lading!!! So, I bought a notepad, scribbled down enough that would pass, and I was on my way by 2130hrs: was in Visalia by 0500 yesterday, slept until 1300, then unloaded the trailer. Took truck back to Ryder this A.M. & asked about a 22-footer (there are STILL 6-7 more pallets of stuff down there, but I couldn't make the weight fit in one load!), and they made us a killer deal on keeping the big truck through Tuesday. So, I'm heading back down on Monday morning, and will load up & come back on Tuesday. Never a dull moment... Charles From bens Sat Jul 3 18:00:33 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i63M0XF8018638 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:00:33 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i63M0WVm018637 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:00:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:00:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200407032200.i63M0NgW018561@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cc: gambrinus67@comcast.net Subject: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, Spent most of the day at home nursing a sore throat, and finally decided to head over to the shop, get my tools/winch, and head upto Madera to move a '82 Celica that Janet's oldest doesn't feel like moving from Janet's recently-sold house... ...drive around the corner, then around another corner, go down one block, and some ASSHOLE (for lack of a cleaner-but-appropriate word) of a lady blows through a stop sign right in front of me! The F350 now has a smashed front-end, the steering is off kilter, though nothing's leaking & I was able to nurse it around the corner & back here - however, the air bags did not deploy, probably because I wasn't going too fast. The GMC pickup that I hit, however, was taken away on a trailer, and it's ASSHOLE of a driver was carried off by the paramedics to the hospital. And of course, the Visalia cops looked through her truck & couldn't find any insurance info, though they claim they're covered. I am currently uninjured, but "we'll see how you feel tomorrow" is what the Visalia Fire Dept. guys said, and it looks like there's a chance that I, and/or our insurance company, will have to take legal action to get them to pay for the truck. On the lighter side, I happened to have my Mavica with me, as I was planning to head upto the property after moving the damnded car, & take pics of how the building is coming along! So, I was able to shoot pics of the whole mess. Oh - the building...it's all framed up, and they're ready to start putting the walls & roof panels on! Charles From bens Sat Jul 3 20:15:52 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i640FqF8023813 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:15:52 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i640FqgX023812 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:15:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:15:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200407040015.i640FpiA023808@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1386 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, On everyone's good advise I took the XD to a local muffler shop: Dave Graves Kwik-Way Muffler Service 350 South Kiely Boulevard San Jose, Ca. 95129 408-244-4540 They found the left side Y-pipe to exhaust manifold union loose and two pin holes in the muffler. They put it on the rack and check out the whole system. After tightening up the loose connection and welding the pin holes up, I was on my way. Total cost FREE!!! "Come back when you need some thing" Customer service was great and the folks were great. Greg at LR San Jose is going to look at the what's causing the check engine light on Tuesday. Gerry, Charles has more than enough Land Rovers so I think he needs to make you a deal on your old Dormie. It's time to come back to the fold. Charles, $500 for my XD!!! I'd be taking advantage of you and I'd hate to stick a friend with a lemon. ;^) Thanks again everyone, Keith Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Recce Digest Version 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Sun Jul 4 00:53:16 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i644rGF8003566 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2004 00:53:16 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i644rFvk003565 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jul 2004 00:53:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 00:53:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200407040453.i644rF2q003561@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Absolutely Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, This stuff absolutely has to go: 5ea. Michelin 4x4 235/709R16 tyres - 50% life left Pertronix LU144 Ignitor Solid State Electronic Ignition System - Dirty but never installed 2.25L Intake / Exhaust Manifold bolts and nuts to attach to head - New Discovery I lower air dam, bumper ends, fog lights and harness - Used Make me an offer, you won't believe how cheap they will go. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Recce Digest Version 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Sun Jul 4 04:44:30 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i648iUF8017201 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 2004 04:44:30 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i648iUSl017200 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jul 2004 04:44:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 04:44:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200407040844.i648iT7J017196@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: JB Engine Treatment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, The Disco has a stuck lifter and the guy at the muffler shop says JB will free it up. Any one have any feedback on engine oil additives? http://www.justicebrothers.com/products_carcare_oil_additives.htm INTERNAL ENGINE CLEANER Part No. IEC/9 Removes oil system sludge, gum and varnish • Cleans engine oil system internally • Removes harmful deposits • Cleans anti-smog (PCV) valves by vapor action • Neutralizes internal engine acids • Cleans valves and hydraulic valve lifters • Contains JB Metal Conditioner® Cheers, Keith Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Recce Digest Version 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Mon Jul 5 18:17:12 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i65MHCIr011026 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:17:12 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i65MHCgB011025 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:17:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 18:17:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200407052217.i65MHCqX011021@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1386 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi all, Anyone ever have a fuel filling problem? Twice now, I have tried to fill my 97 Disco at the pumps and I can only get a few cents worth of gas into it before the pump shuts off (as if the tank were full). It seems like the breather is clogged. Can anyone help? Please? Thanks, Please send responses to my personal e-mail at jfischer160@hotmail.com. (I am on the digest and don't always get my copy.) Thanks again. Josh Fischer 97 Disco SD 5 spd. _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From bens Mon Jul 5 19:48:51 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i65NmpIr014519 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:48:51 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i65Nmp6n014518 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:48:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:48:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200407052348.i65NmoOf014514@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Subject: Charles' F350 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, Sorry to hear the Ford was damaged! Thought it looked great when I was in Sacramento. I hope it will get sorted out to your satisfaction. Tom '99 Disco II Durango From bens Mon Jul 5 19:56:01 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i65Nu1Ir014911 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:56:01 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i65Nu1rc014910 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:56:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:56:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200407052356.i65Nu07Y014906@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Thomas Joyner To: Mendo List Cc: gerry.elam@corporate.ge.com Subject: Ouray moto trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry, Give me a holler if you pass though Durango on your way to or from Ouray and would like to talk rovers or beer (a pint maybe?). Tom '99 Disco II Durango, CO 970-426-9025 cell From bens Mon Jul 5 22:59:31 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i662xVIr021988 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:59:31 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i662xVwI021987 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:59:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:59:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200407060259.i662xUJm021983@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Dave G." To: Cc: Subject: Filling problems Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...Twice now, I have tried to fill my 97 Disco at the pumps and I can only get a few cents worth of gas into it before the pump shuts off (as if the tank were full)..." Did the station update it's nozzles? There's a station by me that changed their nozzles and all of a sudden, the new ones were very sensitive to what ANGLE the nozzle was at. If I tried to just leave it in the filler neck and walk away, it would shut right off. I had to manually elevate the rear of the nozzle to keep gas flowing in freely. -Dave G. From bens Tue Jul 6 01:09:52 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6659qIr028796 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 01:09:52 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6659qtr028795 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 01:09:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 01:09:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200407060509.i6659qHd028791@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: BwanaE@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Blue Lakes trip change Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 41 lines filtered. ] Don't worry...the NCRC Blue Lakes trip is still on for this coming weekend July 10-11. What's changing is the direction we'll be running the trail. In a first for the club we'll now be executing the trail starting at Hope Valley / Blue Lakes on Hwy.88 and finishing at Hermit Valley on Hwy.4. The reason for the late change is a bit of bicycling madness appropriately named " The Death Ride" wherein spandex clad lunatics bicycle from Hwy.395 uphill over two mountain passes finishing at the 8,000 foot high Lake Alpine. I just found out today that Hwy.4, our original starting point will be closed Saturday 0530 - 1500 to accommodate the racers thereby making an 0930 departure from Hermit Valley problematic. Sooo, we'll run it backwards...problem solved. So please spread the word: 0930 start from the Blue Lakes ranger station at Upper Blue Lakes campground. Here are directions: Navigate your way to Jackson in the Sierra foothills (Hwy. 49 and Hwy.88.) Drive east on Hwy.88 over Carson Pass and continue east for 5 miles to Blue Lakes Road. Turn right and drive 11 miles ( 5 paved, 6 gravel) Look for the gaggle of Landrovers. Eric Cope 1232 Appaloosa Road Angels Camp, CA. 95222 Home phone: 209-736-9279 Cell phone: 209-988-2842 E-mail: BwanaE@aol.com From bens Tue Jul 6 02:02:38 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6662cIr030928 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 02:02:38 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6662caZ030927 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 02:02:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 02:02:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200407060602.i6662bd3030923@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: series hard top value Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello, I've never asked a "value" question so here goes: I found a guy in my neighborhood who has a Series hardtop for sale (don't know what happened to the truck). The roof is a plain top with headliner and no significant dents but also no sunshield or alpine windows. The body sides glass is removed and channels need replacing. The body sides also have some stress cracks (repair with pop riveted metal?). What's a fair value? Cheers, Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Tue Jul 6 10:26:35 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66EQZIr019609 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:26:35 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66EQZLQ019608 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:26:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:26:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061426.i66EQYNK019604@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Alan Giblin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org You will probably get hit by a bus anyway OK Mike ;) >X-BrightmailFiltered: true >X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f >Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:47:52 -0400 >X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f >From: cirvin >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: Sighting and for sale >X-PMX-Version: 4.6.0.99824 >X-from-outside-Cisco: 128.107.250.144 > > >...exactly WHAT are you saying here??? that I'M crazy??? After I went to YOUR schools, to YOUR churches, and to YOUR institutional learning facilities? > >(sounds like a song, doesn't it?...) > >Charles - all I wanted was a Pepsi - just one Pepsi... > >'62 109 >'64 109 (project) >'65 109 (project) >'65 Dormie [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 6 10:32:45 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66EWjIr019818 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:32:45 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66EWjnI019817 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:32:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:32:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061432.i66EWjLm019813@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue B To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: series hard top value Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, The value would come from someone who really wants or needs it. I've seen some like that go for a small parts swap. BTW which side is cracked? I have a right side with no windows that anyone can have for free pick up. Bob B At 02:02 AM 7/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, >I've never asked a "value" question so here goes: >I found a guy in my neighborhood who has a Series >hardtop for sale (don't know what happened to the >truck). The roof is a plain top with headliner and no >significant dents but also no sunshield or alpine >windows. The body sides glass is removed and channels >need replacing. The body sides also have some stress >cracks (repair with pop riveted metal?). What's a [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 6 10:51:18 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66EpIIr020720 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:51:18 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66EpISq020719 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:51:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:51:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061451.i66EpHYC020715@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: series hard top value Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org About $250. A good safari top is about $650. Changing the channels is a pain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe mulqueen" To: "mendo" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:02 PM Subject: series hard top value > > Hello, > I've never asked a "value" question so here goes: > I found a guy in my neighborhood who has a Series > hardtop for sale (don't know what happened to the > truck). The roof is a plain top with headliner and no > significant dents but also no sunshield or alpine > windows. The body sides glass is removed and channels > need replacing. The body sides also have some stress [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 6 10:53:17 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66ErHIr020774 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:53:17 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66ErHEK020773 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:53:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 10:53:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061453.i66ErHx8020769@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Blue Lakes trip change Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric, Sorry. Can you give directions to your house. Just the last bit off 49. Thanks. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:09 PM Subject: Blue Lakes trip change > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] > [ 41 lines filtered. ] > > > > Don't worry...the NCRC Blue Lakes trip is still on for this coming weekend > July 10-11. What's changing is the direction we'll be running the trail. In a > first for the club we'll now be executing the trail starting at Hope Valley / > Blue Lakes on Hwy.88 and finishing at Hermit Valley on Hwy.4. > > The reason for the late change is a bit of bicycling madness appropriately > named " The Death Ride" wherein spandex clad lunatics bicycle from Hwy.395 > uphill over two mountain passes finishing at the 8,000 foot high Lake Alpine. I > just found out today that Hwy.4, our original starting point will be closed > Saturday 0530 - 1500 to accommodate the racers thereby making an 0930 departure > from Hermit Valley problematic. Sooo, we'll run it backwards...problem solved. > > So please spread the word: 0930 start from the Blue Lakes ranger station at > Upper Blue Lakes campground. Here are directions: > > Navigate your way to Jackson in the Sierra foothills (Hwy. 49 and Hwy.88.) > Drive east on Hwy.88 over Carson Pass and continue east for 5 miles to Blue > Lakes Road. > Turn right and drive 11 miles ( 5 paved, 6 gravel) > Look for the gaggle of Landrovers. > > Eric Cope > > 1232 Appaloosa Road > Angels Camp, CA. 95222 > Home phone: 209-736-9279 [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 6 11:05:50 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66F5oIr021502 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:05:50 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66F5ob4021501 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:05:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:05:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061505.i66F5o4X021497@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Rose, Randy" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: JB Engine Treatment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Keith, I don't know about JB, but someone I know had successful results with Marvel Mystery Oil for a stuck lifter on a '70-something Ford V8; added it to the crankcase oil. Randy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org] > On Behalf Of Keith Shukait > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:44 AM > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Subject: JB Engine Treatment [heur][Possible Spam]bayes > > > All, > > The Disco has a stuck lifter and the guy at the muffler shop says JB [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 6 11:08:32 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66F8VIr021527 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:08:31 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66F8VZ3021526 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:08:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:08:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061508.i66F8Vmh021522@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: ntucker@sfsu.edu To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1387 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry, I originally hit send before I typed the reply.... Keith, I had what I thought was a sticky lifter or valve and tried several additives, but it turned out to be a rocker arm cup that was worn enough to avoid pushing the valve open enough. Usually if tappets are stuck they don't spin but will still push against the rod then the rocker then the valve (just not efficiently). You may want to pull the valve cover and rotate the crank and check clearances with a feeler, easy to do and usually revealing... Nathan > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 04:44:29 -0400 > From: Keith Shukait > Subject: JB Engine Treatment > > All, > > The Disco has a stuck lifter and the guy at the muffler shop says JB > will free it up. Any one have any feedback on engine oil additives? > [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 6 11:33:03 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66FX2Ir022677 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:33:02 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66FX2t3022676 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:33:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:33:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061533.i66FX25Z022672@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: "Mendo Recce" Subject: Sighting: Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 22 lines filtered. ] charset="iso-8859-1" What: White RRC, lifted, Thule/Yakima box on roof, ARB Bumper, Blond = driver and male co-pilot Where: Westbound I-80, just west of Truckee, CA. Chris DeJesus From bens Tue Jul 6 11:40:11 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66FeBIr023017 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:40:11 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66FeBBp023016 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:40:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 11:40:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061540.i66FeBkl023012@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: carl kruger To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: series hard top value Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I got $400 for a complete plain (non-safari) top about 4 years ago, it was in good shape with all glass intact and a headliner. Carl At 02:02 AM 7/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, >I've never asked a "value" question so here goes: >I found a guy in my neighborhood who has a Series >hardtop for sale (don't know what happened to the >truck). The roof is a plain top with headliner and no >significant dents but also no sunshield or alpine >windows. The body sides glass is removed and channels >need replacing. The body sides also have some stress >cracks (repair with pop riveted metal?). What's a [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 6 12:22:42 2004 Received: from coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66GMgIr024855 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:22:42 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66GMgJW024854 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:22:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:22:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061622.i66GMgdB024850@coriana6.b5.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: series hard top value Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 7 lines filtered. ] The biggest cost in a regular hardtop is the expense to ship it. If there is one thing that will survive on a Series, it is the top. There are a lot more tops than there are Rovers to put under them. In the condition that this one seems to be in, no glass, etc., you'd be doing him a favor to remove it from his property. They do make good chicken coops and storage areas for non critical yard gear so do have other value than protection for a Rover, however. Tropical tops are another story. Hard to find in good condition and usually with expensive asking prices between $500-$1,000.. joe mulqueen wrote: Hello, I've never asked a "value" question so here goes: I found a guy in my neighborhood who has a Series hardtop for sale (don't know what happened to the truck). The roof is a plain top with headliner and no significant dents but also no sunshield or alpine windows. The body sides glass is removed and channels need replacing. The body sides also have some stress cracks (repair with pop riveted metal?). What's a fair value? Cheers, Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! From bens Tue Jul 6 13:49:52 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66HnqVY028533 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:49:52 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66HnqN7028532 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:49:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 13:49:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061749.i66Hnq4H028528@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: RE: JB Engine Treatment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I think JB was easier to find in the '70's. The big chain stores may only carry one or two of their products. I only see JB products in the better auto parts stores. I first saw JB demonstrated at a local store in the mid 70's. The salesman set up some kind of friction device. It had a motor driving a bearing race and a lever, like a spring-bar torque wrench, that put pressure on the spinning race. So he puts a bout 4 or 5 different oils and additives - STP, Marvel Mystery, regular 30 wt, Wynn's - on the bearing, then pulls hard on the wrench. They all stop the bearing at around 35-40 lbs. Actually, the Wynn's may have had a somewhat higher showing than the other products. The kicker is he finally puts JB Oil treatment on it and pulled to over 100 lbs. The bearing still turned. Justice Bros. originally worked for Wynn's. On my first Rover, I put it in everything. Bought the vehicle at 54K miles and drove it to 114K, when I did a Chevy engine swap.(mistake) We checked the condition of the main bearings at the time. They still were good, no copper showing. The only thing that gave me trouble in that rig was the part made by LUCAS - the bloody alternator. Every 7k miles. GTX 20-50 and JB - worked for me. >>> rsrose@avs.caltech.edu 07/06/04 08:05AM >>> Keith, I don't know about JB, but someone I know had successful results with Marvel Mystery Oil for a stuck lifter on a '70-something Ford V8; added it to the crankcase oil. Randy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org] > On Behalf Of Keith Shukait > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:44 AM > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Subject: JB Engine Treatment [heur][Possible Spam]bayes > > > All, > > The Disco has a stuck lifter and the guy at the muffler shop says JB [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 6 14:47:35 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66IlZVY030983 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:47:35 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66IlZlK030982 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:47:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 14:47:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061847.i66IlZvk030978@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "joshua fischer" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1387 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave and Peter, Thanks for your input. I will try and get this mess sorted out before the Blue Lakes trip. Cheers, Joshua Fischer jfischer160@hotmail.com '97 Disco SD 5spd. P.S. Always looking for accessories for the disco. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From bens Tue Jul 6 15:05:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66J5QVY031837 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:05:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66J5Q1t031836 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:05:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:05:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200407061905.i66J5QFg031832@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry to hear about the truck! Make sure you have *your* insurance company check it out ( or a good shop ) as I had a guy rear-end me ( messed up his car real bad ) it scratched a fiberglass running board/fender flare thing, nicked my bumper, and slightly tweaked my eaxhaust pipe ) I had his insurance company inspect it and they claimed it wasn't over my deductable. I was to busy at a startup to follow up on it, well my exhuast brake never worked properly after that, then a piece fell out of it and it stopped working altogether A $1000 thing in and of itself. ( if you see the piece prolly somewhere in Utah near Moab, i'd like it back, kinda looks like a HUGE shotgun slug or an A-10 30mm round... PS: do not run it over, thanks ) This however now brings up the potential for a new after market HD bumper.... think of all the options, think of the pedestrians fleeing as you approach, think of how many econo box cars you could skewer before you need another front end alignment :) TomW On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 15:00, cirvin wrote: > Folks, > > Spent most of the day at home nursing a sore throat, and finally decided to head over to the shop, get my tools/winch, and head upto Madera to move a '82 Celica that Janet's oldest doesn't feel like moving from Janet's recently-sold house... > > ...drive around the corner, then around another corner, go down one block, and some ASSHOLE (for lack of a cleaner-but-appropriate word) of a lady blows through a stop sign right in front of me! > > The F350 now has a smashed front-end, the steering is off kilter, though nothing's leaking & I was able to nurse it around the corner & back here - however, the air bags did not deploy, probably because I wasn't going too fast. > -- TomW From bens Tue Jul 6 17:31:36 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i66LVaVY018362 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:31:36 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i66LVaZm018361 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:31:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 17:31:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200407062131.i66LVa1m018357@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A-10 30mm penetrator round - http://www.deploymentlink.osd.mil/du_library/du_balkans/images/fig1.gif >>> tomw@fluentnet.com 07/06/04 12:05PM >>> itself. ( if you see the piece prolly somewhere in Utah near Moab, i'd like it back, kinda looks like a HUGE shotgun slug or an A-10 30mm round... PS: do not run it over, thanks ) TomW -- TomW From bens Tue Jul 6 20:42:37 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i670gbVY026148 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:42:37 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i670gbxB026147 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:42:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:42:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200407070042.i670gbqa026143@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Hope Peter" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > This however now brings up the potential for a new after market HD > bumper.... think of all the options, think of the pedestrians fleeing as > you approach, think of how many econo box cars you could skewer before > you need another front end alignment :) Did I mention in this forum the bumpers we were building for our Hummers in iraq? We had a very large scrap metal yard just down the road from us full of T-60s, BMPs BRDMs, etc. We found a whole stack of 57mm antiaircraft barrels and welded those up together into bumpers. I dont have any photos fo them yet. Will see if I can get one posted to my web site. I do have an image of the stuff in the yard and a tank turret that we are hauling out to one of our check points. The turret hand cranks and the tube elevates. Even found some rounds for the thing laying around the yard. http://www.aloharovers.com/turret.jpg http://www.aloharovers.com/scrap.jpg Check out the piles of bombs in the yard, wonder how the bad guys get the stuff for IEDs? http://www.aloharovers.com/iraq/scrapyard.htm Pete From bens Tue Jul 6 21:12:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i671CQVY027352 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:12:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i671CQgR027351 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:12:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:12:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200407070112.i671CQd6027347@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yup, thats pretty much it, the coned end had a rod that attached to the exhaust gate, the shiny end slid inside a shaft that was an electro-magnet solenoid... it move it in and out... well it finally one day, shot it completely out ( presumably breaking the part where it connects to the exhaust gate ) TomW, oh and if you see it, don't touch it! its spent plutonium :) On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 14:31, Eric Johnson wrote: > A-10 30mm penetrator round - http://www.deploymentlink.osd.mil/du_library/du_balkans/images/fig1.gif > > > >>> tomw@fluentnet.com 07/06/04 12:05PM >>> > > itself. ( if you see the piece prolly somewhere in Utah near Moab, i'd > like it back, kinda looks like a HUGE shotgun slug or an A-10 30mm > round... PS: do not run it over, thanks ) -- TomW From bens Tue Jul 6 21:16:21 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i671GLVY027557 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:16:21 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i671GLPj027556 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:16:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:16:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200407070116.i671GK3a027552@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Tue, 2004-07-06 at 17:42, Hope Peter wrote: > The turret hand cranks and > the tube elevates. Even found some rounds for the thing laying around > the yard. > > http://www.aloharovers.com/turret.jpg > http://www.aloharovers.com/scrap.jpg > > Check out the piles of bombs in the yard, wonder how the bad guys get > the stuff for IEDs? > http://www.aloharovers.com/iraq/scrapyard.htm > > Pete Yikes, the smoking lantern is definately not lit there! in fact I'd be tippy toeing anywhere near those big sucka's. well actually if I was smart I wouldn't be anywhere near them at all! -- TomW From bens Tue Jul 6 21:26:39 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i671QdVY027965 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:26:39 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i671QdZh027964 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:26:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:26:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200407070126.i671QcQi027960@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Stephen LaPorta To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: sean murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks to a response by Tom Walsh to one of my postings re the carb problems with my Series III, I met a new friend in Sean Murphy. He's a great guy as well as incredibly knowledgeable about landrovers and mini coopers. By the way he also flies rescue helicopters. Thanks again. He's in Richmond and can be reached at 510.821.1271. Steve La Porta '72 Series III '78 Porsche 911sc From bens Wed Jul 7 18:51:59 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i67MpxVY018514 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:51:59 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i67Mpxa5018513 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:51:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:51:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200407072251.i67MpwsM018509@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: BwanaE@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" ] [ 112 lines filtered. ] Okay folks...this is the last time I'll post. I'm sending this to Mendo-recc= e=20 and all individuals who have RSVP'd to me via email. They are: Lance and Melissa MCubby Bill and Corina Stenwick Josh Fischer and friend Rupert and Dominic Jung Chris de Jesus Charles Irvin Mark and Gaynor Pilkington Mike McCune Will Selden Stuart and Noni Convery The trip is on for this weekend, July 10-11. Due to the late change of=20 running the trail backwards starting in Hope Valley/Blue Lakes, Brigid and I= =20 regretfully will not be hosting folks at our cabin in Angels Camp Friday nig= ht. As a=20 matter of fact, we'll be camping at or near Upper Blue Lakes campground Frid= ay=20 night...anybody coming out then is certainly welcome to come by and hoist a=20 glass or two. Just look for "Queenie" our beige Series IIA. Here's a final recap of what's already been posted: This is an official NCRC club trip so expect a safety inspection and waiver=20 signing prior to starting the trail. For any newcomers, the Blue Lakes / Deer Valley 4x4 trail begins at Hermit=20 Valley campground on Hwy. 4 in the Sierras and connects to Hope Valley on Hw= y.=20 88. The trail is at 7'500 feet and is rated moderate difficulty (depending o= n=20 your vehicle's equipment). We have led stock Discos and Rangies through many= =20 times without damage, but dings or scratches are always a possibility. you w= ill=20 definitely be challenged by stock, semi-street tires. Series Landrovers will= =20 of course slice through the trail like a hot knife through butter. Here's a bit more info on what to expect... Dusty, silty trails mixed with boulders from grapefruit=A0 to bowling ball=20 size. Some technical sections climbing up and down small granite shelves of=20= 5-7=20 feet. As stated, we have taken many stock Discos through in years past...jus= t go=20 slow and follow all of your spotter's hand signals. I guarantee you'll have=20= a=20 good time and learn a lot about your truck. As to safety items, I'll be inspecting for: 1. A mounted fire extinguisher within reach of the driver. 2. Solid seatbelts. 3. Solid handbrake. 4. Front and rear recovery points. Mandatory! Note that the factory steel=20 "loops" underneath are not recovery points...they are merely for tying the=20 vehicle down onto car transports. 5. A C.B. radio, preferably mounted with a good external antenna, but a=20 handheld will suffice. Bring your own water as our camp sites are sometimes impromptu and always=20 undeveloped. Bring mosquito repellent and a light jacket for the evenings. F= ood=20 is up to each individual...we don't do formal potlucks. We do however rotate= =20 around the campfire good wine, good single malt scotch, and an occasional Po= rt. The last item I'd like to stress is vehicle loading. Bring only what you=20 truly need for a two-day outing, and pack everything as low in the vehicle a= s=20 possible. I really, really hate to see loaded roof racks as they dramaticall= y=20 alter a truck's CG and you will be tiptoeing through some off camber bits. And here is my latest posting (Monday): Don't worry...the NCRC Blue Lakes trip is still=A0 on for this coming weeken= d=20 July 10-11. What's changing is the direction we'll be running the trail. In=20= a=20 first for the club we'll now be executing the trail starting at Hope Valley=20= /=20 Blue Lakes on Hwy.88 and finishing at Hermit Valley on Hwy.4. The reason for the late change is a bit of bicycling madness appropriately=20 named " The Death Ride" wherein spandex clad lunatics bicycle from Hwy.395=20 uphill over two mountain passes finishing at the 8,000 foot high Lake Alpine= . I jus t found out today that Hwy.4, our original starting point will be closed=20 Saturday 0530 - 1500 to accommodate the racers thereby making an 0930 depart= ure=20 from Hermit Valley problematic. Sooo, we'll run it backwards...problem solve= d. So please spread the word: 0930 start from the Blue Lakes ranger station at=20 Upper Blue Lakes campground. Here are directions: Navigate your way to Jackson in the Sierra foothills (Hwy. 49 and Hwy.88.) Drive east on Hwy.88 over Carson Pass and continue east for 5 miles to Blue=20 Lakes Road. Turn right and drive 11 miles ( 5 paved, 6 gravel) Look for the gaggle of Landrovers. Eric Cope 1232 Appaloosa Road Angels Camp, CA. 95222 Home phone: 209-736-9279 Cell phone: 209-988-2842 E-mail: BwanaE@aol.com From bens Thu Jul 8 01:45:53 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i685jrVY004275 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:45:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i685jrru004274 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:45:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:45:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200407080545.i685jrWB004270@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We're gonna have the truck towed to Ford, since it's still new & under warranty: reasoning is, they'll check out EVERYTHING, and tell us what really does need to be replaced - everything they check out OK will still be covered by them if it breaks later. The insurance companies won't like it, but screw 'em anyway. It's MY truck, it's a new truck, and it's gonna stay that way. If the insurance companies don't like it, I'll see them in court. Any other shop will probably play ball with the insurance people, and tell us that it's just body damage - while I may have a leaky intercooler or something! (worst-case a leaky tranny cooler: it breaks later, and Ford will tell us we're on our own because we didn't take it to them first...no thanks) Charles -----Original message----- From: tomw tomw@fluentnet.com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:05:26 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! > > Sorry to hear about the truck! Make sure you have *your* insurance > company check it out ( or a good shop ) as I had a guy rear-end me ( > messed up his car real bad ) it scratched a fiberglass running > board/fender flare thing, nicked my bumper, and slightly tweaked my > eaxhaust pipe ) I had his insurance company inspect it and they claimed > it wasn't over my deductable. I was to busy at a startup to follow up on > it, well my exhuast brake never worked properly after that, then a piece > fell out of it and it stopped working altogether A $1000 thing in and of [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 01:46:30 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i685kUVY004292 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:46:30 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i685kUDY004291 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:46:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:46:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200407080546.i685kUZT004287@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: sean murphy Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I know that name from someplace..... Charles -----Original message----- From: Stephen LaPorta laporta@pacbell.net Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:26:39 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: sean murphy > > Thanks to a response by Tom Walsh to one of my postings re the carb > problems with my Series III, I met a new friend in Sean Murphy. He's > a great guy as well as incredibly knowledgeable about landrovers and > mini coopers. By the way he also flies rescue helicopters. Thanks > again. He's in Richmond and can be reached at 510.821.1271. > > Steve La Porta > '72 Series III [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 01:50:25 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i685oPVY004503 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:50:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i685oPMJ004494 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:50:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:50:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200407080550.i685oOIY004485@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Filling problems Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I agree - it could be the nozzles... ALL new gasoline nozzles (last 10-15 years now) have an extra safety switch that's inside the bellows that covers the nozzle itself: it senses the bellows collapsing against a filler neck, allowing gas to be pumped. If these aren't adjusted correctly (if they can be adjusted at all), or if they're malfunctioning, you have to press pretty hard on the filler neck to get gas pumping. They're sometimes a PITA when you're filling jerrycans to the brim - you have to pull up on the bellows to top the cans off. Charles -----Original message----- From: "Dave G." hipine@worldnet.att.net Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:59:31 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Filling problems > > "...Twice now, I have tried to fill my 97 Disco at the pumps and I can only > get a few cents worth of gas into it before the pump shuts off (as if the > tank were full)..." > > Did the station update it's nozzles? > > There's a station by me that changed their nozzles and all of a sudden, the > new ones were very sensitive to what ANGLE the nozzle was at. If I tried to [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 01:57:35 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i685vZVY004706 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:57:35 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i685vZ6n004705 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:57:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:57:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200407080557.i685vYhO004701@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: series hard top value Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe, It's kinda a question of how badly do you need it/how badly does the seller want to get rid of it... When I got my first Land Rover ('59 Series II 88") it had no hard top, and since I did alot of target shooting, I needed one (to lock the truck when I stopped for food someplace between home/the desert). It had a soft-top frame, and Steve @ BP was restoring "The Hippo" at the time, and wanted a soft-top frame, so we traded. I still needed a SW rear door, and bought one from Lawrence for $75.00, and later a clamshell for another $100. (the top I got from Steve already had the hinges in it) Later (about 4 years ago) some guy posted here that he had a 88" top for free - you pick up: I didn't need it at the time, but I got it anyway & still have it just in case. (traded the sliding sides for a set of fixed window sides) I've picked up 109 trop top roof panels for $200-$500 also - and sold the same for the same (you're welcome, Mo), so it's really a relative thing. Also, I've noticed that when they're in demand, condition isn't much of a factor in pricing. So, whatever you can get it for, really. BTW - was that you I saw on Highway 163 near Miramar yesterday morning??? Charles -----Original message----- From: joe mulqueen joemulqueen@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 23:02:38 -0700 To: mendo mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: series hard top value > > Hello, > I've never asked a "value" question so here goes: > I found a guy in my neighborhood who has a Series > hardtop for sale (don't know what happened to the > truck). The roof is a plain top with headliner and no > significant dents but also no sunshield or alpine > windows. The body sides glass is removed and channels > need replacing. The body sides also have some stress [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 01:58:41 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i685wfVY004719 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:58:41 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i685wfMS004718 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:58:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:58:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200407080558.i685wfKN004714@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Almost forgot: I did see some really cool bullbars at the Ag Show in Feb: hmmmm....... -----Original message----- From: tomw tomw@fluentnet.com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:05:26 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ALWAYS CARRY A CAMERA WITH YOU!!!!!!! > > This however now brings up the potential for a new after market HD > bumper.... think of all the options, think of the pedestrians fleeing as > you approach, think of how many econo box cars you could skewer before > you need another front end alignment :) > > TomW From bens Thu Jul 8 02:02:12 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6862CVY004923 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 02:02:12 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6862CTr004922 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 02:02:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 02:02:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200407080602.i6862CZb004918@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm out once again: still haven't finalized insurance on the Series rigs. (am talking with Geico) I also have to deal with the F-350, and other stuff that's popped-up, so I may not even be on-list for a while. Have fun all, and be careful out there. :( Charles -----Original message----- From: BwanaE@aol.com Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:51:59 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" ] > [ 112 lines filtered. ] > > > Okay folks...this is the last time I'll post. I'm sending this to Mendo-recc= > e=20 > and all individuals who have RSVP'd to me via email. They are: [ 112 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 10:27:40 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68EReVY024718 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:27:40 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68EReLa024717 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:27:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:27:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081427.i68ERedj024713@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "rupert jung" To: Subject: Nevada Desert run NCRC Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 166 lines filtered. ] charset="Windows-1252" I see that the Nevada Desert run has been moved to Aug. 6-8. Hope = that=92s after Burning Man and if it is, Black Rock maybe be all torn up by the traffic. Pray for rain a week before? BTW, on the 4th of July weekend, we got as far as Cedarville. Didn=92t make it to Stevens Camp, my misfortune Alturas had a Rainbow Gathering the same weekend. Did go thru the Warner Mtns, and further west to see the remnants of the Tule Lake Internment Camp of WWII =20 =20 Rupert --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release Date: 6/4/2004 =20 From bens Thu Jul 8 10:45:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68EjQVY025515 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:45:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68EjQOt025514 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:45:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 10:45:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081445.i68EjNmg025495@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'll be at Blue lakes campground on friday evening, also, if it is OK, I will have a friend in his 88 Range Rover along as well. It is slightly lifted, but is otherwise stock. Mark Pilkington ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" ] > [ 112 lines filtered. ] > > > Okay folks...this is the last time I'll post. I'm sending this to Mendo-recc= > e=20 > and all individuals who have RSVP'd to me via email. They are: > > Lance and Melissa MCubby > Bill and Corina Stenwick > Josh Fischer and friend > Rupert and Dominic Jung > Chris de Jesus > Charles Irvin [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I= > =20 > regretfully will not be hosting folks at our cabin in Angels Camp Friday nig= > ht. As a=20 > matter of fact, we'll be camping at or near Upper Blue Lakes campground Frid= > ay=20 > night...anybody coming out then is certainly welcome to come by and hoist a=20 > glass or two. Just look for "Queenie" our beige Series IIA. > > Here's a final recap of what's already been posted: > > This is an official NCRC club trip so expect a safety inspection and waiver=20 > signing prior to starting the trail. > > For any newcomers, the Blue Lakes / Deer Valley 4x4 trail begins at Hermit=20 > Valley campground on Hwy. 4 in the Sierras and connects to Hope Valley on Hw= > y.=20 > 88. The trail is at 7'500 feet and is rated moderate difficulty (depending o= > n=20 > your vehicle's equipment). We have led stock Discos and Rangies through many= > =20 > times without damage, but dings or scratches are always a possibility. you w= > ill=20 > definitely be challenged by stock, semi-street tires. Series Landrovers will= > =20 > of course slice through the trail like a hot knife through butter. > Here's a bit more info on what to expect... > > Dusty, silty trails mixed with boulders from grapefruit=A0 to bowling ball=20 > size. Some technical sections climbing up and down small granite shelves of=20= > 5-7=20 > feet. As stated, we have taken many stock Discos through in years past...jus= > t go=20 > slow and follow all of your spotter's hand signals. I guarantee you'll have=20= > a=20 > good time and learn a lot about your truck. > > As to safety items, I'll be inspecting for: > 1. A mounted fire extinguisher within reach of the driver. > 2. Solid seatbelts. > 3. Solid handbrake. > 4. Front and rear recovery points. Mandatory! Note that the factory steel=20 > "loops" underneath are not recovery points...they are merely for tying the=20 > vehicle down onto car transports. > 5. A C.B. radio, preferably mounted with a good external antenna, but a=20 > handheld will suffice. > > Bring your own water as our camp sites are sometimes impromptu and always=20 > undeveloped. Bring mosquito repellent and a light jacket for the evenings. F= > ood=20 > is up to each individual...we don't do formal potlucks. We do however rotate= > =20 > around the campfire good wine, good single malt scotch, and an occasional Po= > rt. > > The last item I'd like to stress is vehicle loading. Bring only what you=20 > truly need for a two-day outing, and pack everything as low in the vehicle a= > s=20 > possible. I really, really hate to see loaded roof racks as they dramaticall= > y=20 > alter a truck's CG and you will be tiptoeing through some off camber bits. > > And here is my latest posting (Monday): > > Don't worry...the NCRC Blue Lakes trip is still=A0 on for this coming weeken= > d=20 > July 10-11. What's changing is the direction we'll be running the trail. In=20= > a=20 > first for the club we'll now be executing the trail starting at Hope Valley=20= > /=20 > Blue Lakes on Hwy.88 and finishing at Hermit Valley on Hwy.4. > > The reason for the late change is a bit of bicycling madness appropriately=20 > named " The Death Ride" wherein spandex clad lunatics bicycle from Hwy.395=20 > uphill over two mountain passes finishing at the 8,000 foot high Lake Alpine= > . I jus > t found out today that Hwy.4, our original starting point will be closed=20 > Saturday 0530 - 1500 to accommodate the racers thereby making an 0930 depart= > ure=20 > from Hermit Valley problematic. Sooo, we'll run it backwards...problem solve= > d. > > So please spread the word: 0930 start from the Blue Lakes ranger station at=20 > Upper Blue Lakes campground. Here are directions: > > Navigate your way to Jackson in the Sierra foothills (Hwy. 49 and Hwy.88.) > Drive east on Hwy.88 over Carson Pass and continue east for 5 miles to Blue=20 > Lakes Road. > Turn right and drive 11 miles ( 5 paved, 6 gravel) > Look for the gaggle of Landrovers. > > Eric Cope > > 1232 Appaloosa Road > Angels Camp, CA. 95222 > Home phone: 209-736-9279 [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 11:06:25 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68F6PVY026344 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:06:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68F6Pm5026342 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:06:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:06:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081506.i68F6PVD026338@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Alan Giblin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: I am outta here! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello, In Feburary a golden opportunity dropped in my lap that was too big to let go. I was offered the chance to purchase and run Land Rover Experience, New Zealand. Over the past months we have completed negotiations and have taken over management of the biz and are moving down there post haste. I would like to say thanks to all on the list that have offered help with my rovering needs you have helped a lot. Charles, the rangie has gone to a good rover loving family, the kids and the dog jumped in and claimed it immediately. If you get down to New Zealand feel free to look us up, here is some contact info. Land Rover Experience, Rotorua, New Zealand http://www.landroverexperience.co.nz ( we are going to fix this page ) Cheers! Alan From bens Thu Jul 8 11:54:11 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68FsBVY028125 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:54:11 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68FsBki028124 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:54:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:54:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081554.i68FsBOc028120@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: I am outta here! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Alan, Congrats on the great opportunity in NZ. Hope you love the smell of sulfur in the air. Rotorua has an abundance of hotsprings. I haven't been to NZ since 1986, but I have great memories. Visit the Agri-Dome, if it is still open. It was a very educating to the ways of sheep farming. Hope to take you up on your offer in the coming future. Regards and Best of Luck, Chris DeJesus Mudy_ovl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Giblin" To: Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:06 AM Subject: I am outta here! > > Hello, > > In Feburary a golden opportunity dropped in my lap that was too big to > let go. > > I was offered the chance to purchase and run Land Rover Experience, New > Zealand. Over the past months we have completed negotiations and have taken over > management of the biz and are moving down there post haste. > I would like to say thanks to all on the list that have offered help > with my rovering needs you have helped a lot. > > Charles, the rangie has gone to a good rover loving family, the kids and > the dog jumped in and claimed it immediately. > > If you get down to New Zealand feel free to look us up, here is some > contact info. [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 11:57:21 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68FvLVY028340 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:57:21 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68FvLkN028339 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:57:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:57:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081557.i68FvK2x028335@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Crocuta To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello, Ok I wanted to go on the Blue Lakes trip but I was scheduled to be in Philly this weekend. Due to some unforeseen expenses I cancelled the PA trip which means I should be able to make Blue Lakes. Saturday only however :< I'm still not sure and I probably shouldn't until I get the timing belt changed on the tdi. It would be nice to go on a club event however since I don't know how many more I'll go on this year. -Marshall >Okay folks...this is the last time I'll post. I'm sending this to Mendo-recc= >*cut* >E-mail: BwanaE@aol.com From bens Thu Jul 8 12:11:47 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68GBlVY028955 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:11:47 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68GBkOE028954 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:11:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:11:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081611.i68GBkuL028950@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: I am outta here! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Wow! Well, say hey to the foks in the Shire, Rivendell, Lothlorian, Rohan and Gondor. I wonder if they left the Baggins old Hobbit hole alone? From bens Thu Jul 8 12:21:46 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68GLkVY029342 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:21:46 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68GLk5u029341 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:21:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:21:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081621.i68GLkRn029337@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Mike McUne To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'll be heading up from the Bay Area at 0 dark thirty on Saturday morning. If anyone else is heading that way and wants to convoy, let me know. I'll be monitoring CB 7. Mike McUne BwanaE@aol.com wrote: From bens Thu Jul 8 12:40:36 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68GeaVY030136 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:40:36 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68GeaDn030135 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:40:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:40:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081640.i68GeZD9030131@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm heading up early AM on Saturday too. Hope to meet up and convoy in to Blue Lakes. CB channel 7 it is. I am figuring on about 3-1/2 to 4 hrs for the drive to the Ranger Station. I plan to leave around 5:00-5:30 AM from Dublin. Chris De Jesus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike McUne" To: Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder > > I'll be heading up from the Bay Area at 0 dark thirty on Saturday > morning. If anyone else is heading that way and wants to convoy, let me > know. > > I'll be monitoring CB 7. > > Mike McUne > [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 12:51:34 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68GpYVY030527 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:51:34 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68GpYfG030526 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:51:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:51:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081651.i68GpYx3030522@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: I am outta here! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Alan, I saw that for sale online as well and was very interested. The owner was telling me about the mechanics and how good they are and where they live etc. He seemed like a decent chap. You will love it down there, it is an excellent country. I will be there in October for three weeks. Kind regards, Mark Pilkington. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:54 AM Subject: Re: I am outta here! > > Alan, > Congrats on the great opportunity in NZ. Hope you love the smell of > sulfur in the air. Rotorua has an abundance of hotsprings. I haven't been > to NZ since 1986, but I have great memories. Visit the Agri-Dome, if it is > still open. It was a very educating to the ways of sheep farming. Hope to > take you up on your offer in the coming future. > Regards and Best of Luck, > Chris DeJesus > Mudy_ovl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Giblin" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:06 AM > Subject: I am outta here! [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 13:49:13 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68HnDVY032659 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:49:13 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68HnDO4032658 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:49:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:49:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081749.i68HnD2f032654@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: re. Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm a no show so enjoy the weekend everyone! Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:51:58 -0400 From: BwanaE@aol.com Subject: [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" ] [ 112 lines filtered. ] Okay folks...this is the last time I'll post. I'm sending this to Mendo-recc= e=20 and all individuals who have RSVP'd to me via email. They are: Lance and Melissa MCubby Bill and Corina Stenwick Josh Fischer and friend Rupert and Dominic Jung Chris de Jesus Charles Irvin Mark and Gaynor Pilkington Mike McCune Will Selden Stuart and Noni Convery __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Thu Jul 8 14:07:34 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68I7YVY001030 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:07:34 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68I7Xjc001029 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:07:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:07:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081807.i68I7XWM001025@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Jason Pipes" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Nevada Desert run NCRC Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I did my homework, it's before Burning Man. BM is 8/30 to 9/6. For those interested, on this years NCRC Desert Trip we will be meeting representatives from the BLM, Black Rock Conservation Area, and many other local, regional and national Government organizations. They will be meeting us on the trail and talking with us about our current and past trips to the region to get a better understanding of how we use the area, the things we like and dislike, and hopefully to meet first hand a group of highly responsible and very active recreational and educational users of the natural resources they are employed to protect. Based on these meeting they may add, change, amend, edit or update current and existing policies that impact land use in the region so this will be a very important event for us all. More details on this event will be posted very soon! Jason > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; ] > [ 166 lines filtered. ] > > charset="Windows-1252" > > I see that the Nevada Desert run has been moved to Aug. 6-8. Hope = > that=92s [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Thu Jul 8 14:25:49 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68IPnVY001939 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:25:49 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68IPnUO001938 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:25:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:25:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081825.i68IPm1W001933@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Crocuta To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Chris wrote: >I'm heading up early AM on Saturday too. Hope to meet up and convoy in to >Blue Lakes. CB channel 7 it is. I am figuring on about 3-1/2 to 4 hrs for >the drive to the Ranger Station. I plan to leave around 5:00-5:30 AM from >Dublin. >Chris De Jesus I haven't thought that far ahead as to time needed to get there but that sounds good. If we go I'd like to convoy. I'm in Walnut Creek so I can get down there NP or if you're going up 680 it would be even easier for me. So far we're planning on attending but like my trip to PA, it could get ditched at any moment so don't alter any plans or anything on our account. -Marshall From bens Thu Jul 8 14:31:20 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68IVKVY002206 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:31:20 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68IVK1s002205 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:31:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:31:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081831.i68IVJGw002201@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: Charles Irvin , Mendo Subject: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe Ernest(land-rover owner/lover known to many of you), found a $200.00 jaguar xj-6 coupe in Santa Rosa this week-end. he has no room for it, so anyone intereted let me know. ay many know the cope is a rare model, and is worth good$ to the right person. I would love one, but not at this time... paul From bens Thu Jul 8 14:41:58 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68IfwVY002619 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:41:58 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68IfwoU002618 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:41:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:41:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081841.i68Ifvc8002614@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Do you know the overall cosmetic and running condition. I mean, is it a $200 car, or is it a $5,000 car that someone is selling for $200 if you know what I am getting at? Mark > > Joe Ernest(land-rover owner/lover known to many of you), > found a $200.00 jaguar xj-6 coupe in Santa Rosa this > week-end. he has no room for it, so anyone intereted let me > know. > > ay many know the cope is a rare model, and is worth good$ > to the right person. I would love one, but not at this > time... [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 15:18:12 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68JICVY005956 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:18:12 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68JICjJ005955 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:18:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:18:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081918.i68JIC0i005951@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mike, Marshall and anyone else from the Bay Area, I plan on taking the 580E, I-205E, I-5N, 120E, 99N,CA-88E route to the trek. I will keep my ears open for any radio traffic. I am driving a Bronze Disco I with a half roofrack, in case I have my radio off. CA TAGs "MUDY OVL" See you soon, Chris De Jesus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crocuta" To: Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:25 AM Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder > > > Chris wrote: > >I'm heading up early AM on Saturday too. Hope to meet up and convoy in to > >Blue Lakes. CB channel 7 it is. I am figuring on about 3-1/2 to 4 hrs for > >the drive to the Ranger Station. I plan to leave around 5:00-5:30 AM from > >Dublin. > >Chris De Jesus > > I haven't thought that far ahead as to time needed to get there but that > sounds good. If we go I'd like to convoy. I'm in Walnut Creek so I can get > down there NP or if you're going up 680 it would be even easier for me. > So far we're planning on attending but like my trip to PA, it could get > ditched at any moment so don't alter any plans or anything on our account. > -Marshall [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 8 15:49:34 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i68JnYVY007145 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:49:34 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i68JnXpO007144 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:49:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:49:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200407081949.i68JnXC8007140@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Riston" To: Subject: RE: Nevada Desert run NCRC Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 43 lines filtered. ] Just a FYI BM starts set up the week of July 18th. Eric From bens Thu Jul 8 20:13:29 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i690DTVY017577 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:13:29 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i690DTb0017576 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:13:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:13:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200407090013.i690DS3p017572@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Mark Pilkington wrote: > > Do you know the overall cosmetic and running condition. I > mean, is it a $200 > car, or is it a $5,000 car that someone is selling for > $200 if you know what > I am getting at? > Mark Yeah, I know..he said "body in good shape, maroon with black vinyl top covering the interior is typical to year old brit car" as it sits, it ran good, but smoked on start? so needs rings or valve work? probably still worth a gand or two really.. really better for an enthusiast, NOT ro fix and sell for a profit... > > Joe Ernest(land-rover owner/lover known to many of > you), > > found a $200.00 jaguar xj-6 coupe in Santa Rosa this > > week-end. he has no room for it, so anyone intereted > let me > > know. From bens Fri Jul 9 10:42:15 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i69EgFVY021329 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:42:15 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i69EgFjc021328 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:42:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:42:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200407091442.i69EgFcr021324@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org OK Thanks. That is what I wanted to do. Mark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Archibald" To: Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap From bens Fri Jul 9 12:37:52 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i69GbqVY025895 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:37:52 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i69GbqCC025894 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:37:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:37:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200407091637.i69Gbqbn025890@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo \(E-mail\)" Subject: Hermit Valley Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Eric mentioned the spandex clad lunatics (Hey, I resemble that statement!) and closure of Hwy 4 necessitating a route change for the NCRC trip. I did the Death Ride a few years ago-- humbling. LR content--> I four-wheeled it out some doubletrack in the sagebrush east of Markleeville the night before the ride and slept on top of the 110. It was the only place I could find some quiet to camp before the event. Enjoy the NCRC trip! -------------------------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information intended for the specific individual or entity addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient you must not disseminate, forward, print or copy it in any form or take any action or reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message or by calling +1 510-844-3000. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------- From bens Fri Jul 9 12:54:16 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i69GsGVY026497 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:54:16 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i69GsGQa026496 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:54:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:54:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200407091654.i69GsFFp026492@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: Final Blue Lakes trip reminder Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Blue Lake Trekkers (BLTs) Marshall, what is your status? Mike, I will wait for you in the McDonald's parking lot off of the Santa Rita/Tassajara exit on 580 East. It is about 2 miles east of the 580/680 junction. My cell phone number is 925.766.3820. Look forward to seeing you all tomorrow about 5:15 AM. Chris D. Mudy_ovl From bens Fri Jul 9 14:33:29 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i69IXTVY030508 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:33:29 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i69IXTHr030507 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:33:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:33:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200407091833.i69IXTi8030503@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Re: series hard top value Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Maybe if you saw me in my '82 white XJ6. My Land Rover is currently parked up in Redondo Beach. Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109SW Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 01:57:34 -0400 From: cirvin Subject: Joe, ...... BTW - was that you I saw on Highway 163 near Miramar yesterday morning??? Charles __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Fri Jul 9 14:55:47 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i69ItlVY031465 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:55:47 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i69Itlls031464 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:55:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:55:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200407091855.i69ItlxQ031460@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: granny@pacific.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: BP Special: D90 Rock Sliders, Hi-Lift, & adapters Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Won't do me any good but if anyone on the list has a D90 w/o rock sliders, this seems like a great deal: Friday, July 9, 2004 Defender 90 Rock Slider with Hi-Lift and Adapter Package There are several designs of Defender rock sliders out there. Basically they replace the delicate rocker panels with a piece of steel, usually tube, to reduce damage from rocks and boulders. Some folks prefer running boards that assist with not only vehicle entry, but to keep brush from the side of the truck, and provide moderate rock protection. The design you need will be based on how you drive your truck and where you take it. If you go places that require the use of a Hi-Lift, or need the bigger jack to change large wheels/tires, you need a better jacking location than the vehicle provides. Hi-Lifts are great tools, but they can be pretty scary to use: we've seen vehicles fall or slide off, sometimes resulting in additional mechanical damage. Our Mantec rock slider is designed to accommodate the Hi-Lift Adapter for Defender 90's. Holes and on each end of the steel rectangular tube bar will provide a secure and stable jacking point on either side of the vehicle. The sliders are light at only 21 pounds each, nicely finished with closed and tapered ends, and finished with a tough satin black 'powder coat' finish. For further jacking stability and safety, we added a Hi-Lift Base: a heavy vinyl support that increases the size of the footprint. Great for mud or sand, it won't crack or splinter like wood, and it has a recessed cup for the jack to snuggle into. With the slider, adapter, and base, this is the most stable and secure way to raise up your Defender. BP's D90 Rock Slider/Hi-Lift Package: You get: One pair of Mantec Rock Sliders; One 60" Hi-Lift Jack with cast base; One Hi-Lift Adapter; One Hi-Lift Base; $435.00 shipping extra From bens Fri Jul 9 15:56:54 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i69JusVY001367 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:56:54 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i69JusbT001366 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:56:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:56:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200407091956.i69Jurd5001362@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: re. Re: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Coupes are sweet but SII engine management, emission and climate control systems are relatively crude and problematic. Many SII Coupes are converted to later SIII or Chev goodies. 4 door cars are often junked. When it comes to windshield rust though, the SIII is the hands down winner! I bought my '82 XJ6 SIII for $1,500 and went through absolutely everything on the car (some things twice) except the seats ($3-4K for materials in a 4 door SIII). Since completion I've put 75K miles on it. I think a XJ Jag restoration compares to a Range Rover Classic. Alot of cost requiring many miles to get ROI. But they are nice rides! Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:41:57 -0400 From: "Mark Pilkington" Subject: Re: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap Do you know the overall cosmetic and running condition. I mean, is it a $200 car, or is it a $5,000 car that someone is selling for $200 if you know what I am getting at? Mark > > Joe Ernest(land-rover owner/lover known to many of you), > found a $200.00 jaguar xj-6 coupe in Santa Rosa this > week-end. he has no room for it, so anyone intereted let me > know. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Fri Jul 9 19:56:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i69NuQVY010834 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:56:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i69NuQ9O010833 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:56:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:56:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200407092356.i69NuQBq010829@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Here it is: http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied/112_0407_sketchpad/index.html   I saw this at Land Rover San Jose, it looks like a cross between the LR Challenger and the Defender 110. With a roll out date of 2008 I'm sure there more changes coming. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Fri Jul 9 23:46:38 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6A3kcVY020097 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:46:38 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6A3kc7q020096 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:46:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:46:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200407100346.i6A3kc1W020092@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org No thanks: I missed out on the TR (happened to be the one that I found a while back that was for sale & sold before I called on it!), and I don't want a "newer" Jag unless its smog exempt. Charles -----Original message----- From: Paul Archibald androbus@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:31:20 -0700 To: Charles Irvin cirvin@govisalia.com Subject: Non Rover, but Jaguar related..XJ-6 coupe!! Cheap > > Joe Ernest(land-rover owner/lover known to many of you), > found a $200.00 jaguar xj-6 coupe in Santa Rosa this > week-end. he has no room for it, so anyone intereted let me > know. > > ay many know the cope is a rare model, and is worth good$ > to the right person. I would love one, but not at this > time... [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Jul 9 23:56:32 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6A3uWVY020496 for ; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:56:32 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6A3uWeN020495 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:56:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 23:56:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200407100356.i6A3uVsP020491@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Cliff A Watts To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1390 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Good luck Alan About 8 or 9 years ago we spent 22 days in New Zealand; we met a good few Americans travelling there. I am not exaggerating when I tell you that EVERY ONE of them asked the same question, "How do you get to live in this place?". I still don't know why they asked us but it goes to show what a great country it is. Cliff > Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:06:25 -0400 > From: Alan Giblin > Subject: I am outta here! > > Hello, > > In Feburary a golden opportunity dropped in my lap that was > too big to > let go. [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From bens Sat Jul 10 13:05:25 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6AH5PVY020132 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:05:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6AH5P14020127 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:05:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:05:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200407101705.i6AH5Ogq020119@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: hipine@att.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm sure glad they're "...keen on cultivating the...image...", but that's been obvious for a long time. By the look of that red one, they're keen on cultivating the image of a ten year old Fore-runner. :^) They further convey their intentions by bringing out the upscale long wheelbase version first with only promises of shorter, more basic versions. And of course everything's relative. That red 2-door doesn't look anything close to a 90" wheelbase, likely at least 100. But keep hoping! It would be really cool to see LR bring something to go head to head with the Jeep Rubicon in the US. -Dave G. From bens Sat Jul 10 13:38:02 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6AHc2VY021355 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:38:02 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6AHc2ms021354 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:38:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 13:38:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200407101738.i6AHc2fo021350@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Range Rover Pickup for Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org There is a nice looking Range Rover Classic pickup conversion for sale on eBay. The item number is 2483473942 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6295&item= 2483473942&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Kevin From bens Sat Jul 10 16:26:59 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6AKQxVY027876 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:26:59 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6AKQxH4027875 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:26:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:26:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200407102026.i6AKQxDp027871@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Crocuta To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sightings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yesterday heading south on 680 I saw a sand/tan/etc colored SIII 88" with a partial roof rack, extra lights, baskets over the headlights and sand ladders on the rack. Looked well used.. 'perfect' look for an old series IMHO. My friend who was in the car commented on how it looked like it rolled out of an advert for series LRs. Then later that night in downtown Walnut Creek I saw another series (III?) 88" that had no paint except some traces on the roof..rest was polished aluminum. Looked nice! I wanted to ask them how they could hear their stereo that they had fitted inside the series... as I could barely hear my co-driver at speed. I wonder what kind of soundproofing they chose. I still need to soundproof the 90 a bit more. I had too much to do today that was necessary to get done so even after staying up most of the night trying to clear up loose ends so I could go to Angels camp with everyone... time ran out. Perhaps next year. Hope everyone has/had a good time! -Marshall From bens Sat Jul 10 23:04:51 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6B34pVY010463 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:04:51 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6B34p10010462 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:04:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:04:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200407110304.i6B34pRn010458@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I think that Ford is way too rich to be designing what should be a basic work truck and people hauler. Too rich and not very clever. A poorer company with fewer resources but more imagination did a far better job the first time. Mo From bens Sat Jul 10 23:11:15 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6B3BFVY010855 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:11:15 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6B3BFKw010854 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:11:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:11:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200407110311.i6B3BFUi010850@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Jon Turner" To: Subject: RE: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] So then we should look to companies like ARO? :) From bens Sun Jul 11 11:47:11 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6BFlBVY014868 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:47:11 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6BFlBx7014867 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:47:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 11:47:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200407111547.i6BFlAbc014863@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > I think that Ford is way too rich to be designing what should be a > basic > work truck and people hauler. You seem to be forgetting past press releases shared in the group. What Ford has said in the past is that they plan to use the Defender as head to head competition to the Hummer market. A are bones future Bronco is supposed to go against the Jeep. Of course like everything else that too is subject to change. At lease we have been told that it is not unibody and there is a steel frame underneath. Its one step in the right direction. From bens Sun Jul 11 12:12:20 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6BGCKVY015825 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:12:20 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6BGCKD8015824 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:12:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:12:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200407111612.i6BGCKQc015820@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: john hess To: Mendo List Subject: Re: Range Rover Pickup for Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org very nice, but how do you think it got the Cal plates? On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Kevin Kelly wrote: > > There is a nice looking Range Rover Classic pickup conversion for sale on > eBay. > > The item number is 2483473942 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6295&item= > 2483473942&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW > [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Sun Jul 11 19:09:37 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6BN9bVY032105 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:09:37 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6BN9bUR032104 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:09:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:09:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200407112309.i6BN9arp032100@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: rr pu Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org from the owner:   The title reads COMMERCIAL, Vin SALLHABV8AA139167, Model 1984 RGRVR, Plate 7F68929.   I do not plan to relist on eBay. I was just seeing if there was any interest but I believe everyone was looking for a low mileage Classic rather than thinking of buying a "Collectable."   The original build cost I am told was $25,000 in 1994 dollars, so I image the replacement cost exceeds that. Plus the upgrades I have installed.   Believe I will just keep this as I originally intended - a fun. one of a kind, conversation maker to drive around Big Bear Lake and on trips. cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2002 Merlin Extra Fat, 2004 Steve Rex (done!) ours: 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Mon Jul 12 02:03:15 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6C63FVY017501 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 02:03:15 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6C63Fld017500 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 02:03:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 02:03:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200407120603.i6C63FZn017496@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "mpatrykus" To: Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >You seem to be forgetting past press releases shared in the group. >What Ford has said in the past is that they plan to use the Defender as >head to head competition to the Hummer market. Ohhhhh yes, the Hummer market. Rappers, Professional Athletes, Gangbangers and Steroid Freaks. I wonder if Ford will give the Defender a Phat set of shizzle spinners? Mo From bens Mon Jul 12 05:39:45 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6C9djVY026198 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:39:45 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6C9djSJ026197 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:39:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 05:39:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200407120939.i6C9djIe026193@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Young To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sightings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tonight I saw a beautiful, Java Black, 1999 Disco Series II... wait, that's mine... Now for the real news: On Saturday, heading south on 880 at Berkeley, I passed a 1958-61 Ferrari Dino. Looked to be in perfect condition, except for a fair amount of smoke from the exhaust. Here are two pics of what this gorgeous car looks like: http://www.ferrariworld.com/images/ferrari/world/cars/ieri/com/5459/1958_Dino196S_558x372.jpg http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/pitstop/demolition/113/Mass_196SDino.jpg The one I passed was red, no number spots, clear air scoop with velocity stacks visible, dark inner wheels w/three-prong knock-off hubs, left-hand drive, nice sound. Very pretty. Driven by a what looked like a late middle-aged guy with a mustache. Unfortunately, he headed towards San Francisco while I headed towards Oakland. It looked enough like a TR 250 (the Ferrari model, not our beloved Triumph model) to get me pretty worked-up. John Young From bens Mon Jul 12 10:31:12 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CEVCVY005464 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:31:12 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CEVC4w005463 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:31:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:31:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121431.i6CEVBlA005459@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >>> mpatrykus@netzero.net 07/11/04 11:03PM >>> >>>. I wonder if Ford will give the Defender a Phat set of shizzle spinners? >>>Mo I want shizzle spinners for my Series...come on, it'd look cool at Moab... From bens Mon Jul 12 10:38:15 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CEcFVY005707 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:38:15 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CEcFjm005706 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:38:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:38:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121438.i6CEcFtl005702@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org but what would really be phat is to chop the top and have about a 6 inch windshield. And drop the body down on some 13 inch wheels with low profile tires so you can't even clear parking lot speed bumps. Alex wants to volunteer stubby for "pimp my ride" but I personally think the Merc would be better. On Jul 12, 2004, at 7:31 AM, Eric Johnson wrote: > > > >>>> mpatrykus@netzero.net 07/11/04 11:03PM >>> > > >>>> . I wonder if Ford will give the Defender a Phat set of > shizzle spinners? > [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2002 Merlin Extra Fat, 2004 Steve Rex (done!) ours: 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Mon Jul 12 10:50:54 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CEorVY006387 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:50:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CEort8006386 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:50:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:50:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121450.i6CEorRh006382@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 07:38, John Hess wrote: > but what would really be phat is to chop the top and have about a 6 > inch windshield. And drop the body down on some 13 inch wheels with > low profile tires so you can't even clear parking lot speed bumps. > > Alex wants to volunteer stubby for "pimp my ride" but I personally > think the Merc would be better. Pimp the Merc & chop the top on the Dormie! Both would look good in in chameleon flake purple with gold dust flames and gold crusted chain steering wheel with matching shifter and rear view mirror. PS: those 13 inchers sticking out of the body are out... you want those chromed or gold 20" spinners with ultra low profile tires..... You do! you know you do! Really! -- TomW From bens Mon Jul 12 11:30:58 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CFUwVY008058 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:30:58 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CFUvp1008057 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:30:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:30:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121530.i6CFUvp6008053@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org 13's are still in on the older cars - but you gotta use 6-8" wide wheels and stretch 4' wide tires onto them - and no wheel arch extensions, just the mudflaps with the chrome naked ladies on them...maybe slap a decal of a bull on the drivers' door! Charles -----Original message----- From: tomw tomw@fluentnet.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:50:53 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 > > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 07:38, John Hess wrote: > > but what would really be phat is to chop the top and have about a 6 > > inch windshield. And drop the body down on some 13 inch wheels with > > low profile tires so you can't even clear parking lot speed bumps. > > > > Alex wants to volunteer stubby for "pimp my ride" but I personally > > think the Merc would be better. > [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Jul 12 11:33:25 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CFXPVY008081 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:33:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CFXPqT008080 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:33:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:33:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121533.i6CFXPSV008076@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sightings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...sure that wasn't an older Tessie??? There's one or two of 'em in the Bay area (OTOH - it wouldn't suprise me if there were a dozen there...). Charles -----Original message----- From: John Young john_young@sonic.net Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 02:39:45 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sightings... > > > Tonight I saw a beautiful, Java Black, 1999 Disco Series II... wait, > that's mine... > > Now for the real news: On Saturday, heading south on 880 at Berkeley, > I passed a 1958-61 Ferrari Dino. Looked to be in perfect condition, > except for a fair amount of smoke from the exhaust. > [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Jul 12 13:56:49 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CHunVY013855 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:56:49 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CHunWx013854 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:56:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:56:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121756.i6CHunk1013850@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: jiggler gas syphon Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I remember sometime back someone mentioning a jiggler gas syphon. can anyone recommend a good place to get one? Thanks, Eric From bens Mon Jul 12 14:03:32 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CI3WVY014073 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:03:32 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CI3WDS014072 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:03:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:03:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121803.i6CI3WA8014068@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 08:30, cirvin wrote: > 13's are still in on the older cars - but you gotta use 6-8" wide wheels and stretch 4' wide tires onto them - and no wheel arch extensions, just the mudflaps with the chrome naked ladies on them...maybe slap a decal of a bull on the drivers' door! > > Charles > Well, OK as long as the mud flaps are very much to small to do anything and are attached at a 45 degree angle TomW From bens Mon Jul 12 14:17:05 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CIH5VY014670 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:17:05 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CIH55P014669 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:17:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:17:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121817.i6CIH57D014665@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: jiggler gas syphon Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org my ex-wife. >>> eschoenman@sbcglobal.net 07/12/04 10:56AM >>> I remember sometime back someone mentioning a jiggler gas syphon. can anyone recommend a good place to get one? Thanks, Eric From bens Mon Jul 12 14:19:44 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CIJiVY014685 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:19:44 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CIJi8R014684 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:19:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:19:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121819.i6CIJhIR014680@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: jiggler gas syphon Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org the "Good-Guys" Pleasanton car show? >>> eschoenman@sbcglobal.net 07/12/04 10:56AM >>> I remember sometime back someone mentioning a jiggler gas syphon. can anyone recommend a good place to get one? Thanks, Eric From bens Mon Jul 12 14:40:37 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CIebVY015721 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:40:37 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CIebwY015720 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:40:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:40:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121840.i6CIeakZ015716@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: jiggler gas syphon Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 34 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-70--317301139 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I think Pangaea Expeditions, Expedition Exhange and Rover Accessories all sell them. Craig On Jul 12, 2004, at 10:56 AM, Eric Schoenman wrote: > > I remember sometime back someone mentioning a jiggler gas syphon. can > anyone recommend a good place to get one? > > Thanks, > Eric > > Craig Reece Neoteric Biofuels http://www.biofuels.ca --Apple-Mail-70--317301139 From bens Mon Jul 12 14:51:03 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CIp2VY016138 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:51:03 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CIp2Rk016137 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:51:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 14:51:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200407121851.i6CIp2SR016133@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Mike McUne To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: jiggler gas syphon Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org https://www.expeditionexchange.com/supersiphon/ Eric Schoenman wrote: From bens Mon Jul 12 18:59:45 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CMxjVY025915 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:59:45 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CMximh025914 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:59:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:59:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200407122259.i6CMxiji025910@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: NCRC South Bay Lunch Tomorrow Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Hope to see folks there... Meet in the restaurant about 11:45-noon the 2nd Tuesday of each month to take part. First person to arrive should grab a table. Scruffy Murphy's Irish Pub & Restaurant 187 South Murphy Avenue Sunnyvale, Ca. 94086 408-735-7394 Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Mon Jul 12 19:08:03 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CN83VY026324 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:08:03 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CN83hm026323 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:08:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:08:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200407122308.i6CN83WJ026319@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Boy Scout Raft Trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Z and I went with our Troop on the Lower Fork of the American River. It was a blast, we tested our gear for the up coming 83 mile trip on the Green River In Utah. Rover content: We drove the Disco to the raft trip. ;^) I added the JB Engine Tune Up last Thursday and there's been no difference. Can the back door lock be taken apart and fixed for less than $500? I replaced the Spark plug wires and the exhaust gaskets between the headers and the y-pipe and now the check engine light is happy Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Mon Jul 12 19:19:56 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6CNJuVY026714 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:19:56 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6CNJuAl026713 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:19:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:19:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200407122319.i6CNJuq5026709@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh - and don't forget those chrome thingys that make noise when they scrape against the curb when parking! :) Charles -----Original message----- From: tomw tomw@fluentnet.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:03:32 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 > > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 08:30, cirvin wrote: > > 13's are still in on the older cars - but you gotta use 6-8" wide wheels and stretch 4' wide tires onto them - and no wheel arch extensions, just the mudflaps with the chrome naked ladies on them...maybe slap a decal of a bull on the drivers' door! > > > > Charles > > > > Well, OK as long as the mud flaps are very much to small to do anything > and are attached at a 45 degree angle [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Jul 12 22:21:37 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6D2LbVY001501 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:21:37 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6D2LboP001500 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:21:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:21:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200407130221.i6D2LbXB001496@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Boy Scout Raft Trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 16:08, Keith Shukait wrote: > Can the back door lock be taken apart and fixed for less than $500? > I replaced the Spark plug wires and the exhaust gaskets between the > headers and the y-pipe and now the check engine light is happy > I seem to recall getting an entire used door for that or less. Previous to that I purchased the latch for the old door for like $350 ( door was shot already though ) but the used door fixed it up good... cept for the different color and all :) -- TomW From bens Mon Jul 12 22:22:49 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6D2MnVY001514 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:22:49 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6D2MnPO001513 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:22:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:22:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200407130222.i6D2MmBI001509@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: New Defender for 2008 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 16:19, cirvin wrote: > Oh - and don't forget those chrome thingys that make noise when they scrape against the curb when parking! > > :) > > Charles Only if they have neon lights at the end! -- TomW From bens Tue Jul 13 00:02:41 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6D42fVY005641 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:02:41 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6D42fPO005640 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:02:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:02:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200407130402.i6D42frg005636@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Boy Scout Raft Trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- tomw wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 16:08, Keith Shukait wrote: > > > Can the back door lock be taken apart and fixed for > less than $500? > > I replaced the Spark plug wires and the exhaust gaskets > between the > > headers and the y-pipe and now the check engine light > is happy [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] NOT TO MENTION.......the friggen lock doesn't work with the key...but that's another issue...will go into teh exploding heater hose.....and than the second kaboom tomorrow. but yes...for about 100 or less they should be able to get eh door lock assy to work right... or just do it yourself for free? ;-) Paul(who after tomorrow morning starts and can assertain teh damage, will be riding the bicycle to the dealer for parts if they are available...) From bens Tue Jul 13 00:40:25 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6D4ePVY008889 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:40:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6D4ePba008888 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:40:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:40:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200407130440.i6D4ePH4008884@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Boy Scout Raft Trip, now pauls boom? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 21:02, Paul Archibald wrote: > --- tomw wrote: > NOT TO MENTION.......the friggen lock doesn't work with the > key...but that's another issue...will go into teh exploding > heater hose.....and than the second kaboom tomorrow. Now What? Did I miss some other messages? > or just do it yourself for free? ;-) > > Paul(who after tomorrow morning starts and can assertain > teh damage, will be riding the bicycle to the dealer for > parts if they are available...) -- TomW From bens Tue Jul 13 00:48:55 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6D4mtVY009113 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:48:55 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6D4mthB009112 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:48:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 00:48:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200407130448.i6D4msmf009108@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Boy Scout Raft Trip, now pauls boom? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 21:40, tomw wrote: > > NOT TO MENTION.......the friggen lock doesn't work with the > > key...but that's another issue...will go into teh exploding > > heater hose.....and than the second kaboom tomorrow. > > Now What? Did I miss some other messages? Well, if its real bad this just popped up on the D90 list ( below ), or I have a bored 3.5L with 3.9 heads and 3.9 cam and the nice roller timing chain ( new ) and a new water pump, two intakes ( downdraft or holley ) and I think all long block ancileraries for $1500 firm ( I've got over 3G into it ) ( cash only as I'm looking to get F/R D60 axles... or .....trade for F/R HP Dana 60's with kingpin knuckles in front and 35 spline shafts all around ) On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 15:55, neo812_ou812 wrote: > I am selling my 1995 D-90 engine,R-380,LT230,ECU,Harness,breather,and > all ancillaries w/47K on them.$3800.00 or partial trade for galvanized > chassis. Also have bulkhead and seatbox with some rust.All very > repairable.Make offer. > > neo812@swbell.net PS: go easy on the bicycle! :) bummer! -- TomW From bens Tue Jul 13 01:27:48 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6D5RmVY010683 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:27:48 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6D5RmrA010682 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:27:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:27:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200407130527.i6D5RmTr010678@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Raft Trip (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, I made a new page with the rest of the photos I shot: http://homepage.mac.com/shukait/PhotoAlbum30.html Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Recce Digest Version 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Tue Jul 13 11:10:57 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DFAvVY001603 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:10:57 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DFAvZ6001602 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:10:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:10:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200407131510.i6DFAvZc001598@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: Raft Trip (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Keith, Great shots of the rafts in the rapids. Looks like the trip was fun for all. What camera did you use? I really like the third photo where you can see the water running off the tubes as the boat gets air. Nice work. Chris De Jesus Mudy_Ovl, 95 D1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Shukait" To: Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Raft Trip (No LR Content) > > All, > > I made a new page with the rest of the photos I shot: > > http://homepage.mac.com/shukait/PhotoAlbum30.html > > Cheers, > [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 13 11:25:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DFPQVY002243 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:25:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DFPQ1V002242 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:25:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:25:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200407131525.i6DFPQRI002238@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Hammes, Johns S LCDR" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1393 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 574 lines filtered. ] UNSUBSCRIBE From bens Tue Jul 13 11:56:32 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DFuWVY003434 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:56:32 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DFuWr8003433 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:56:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 11:56:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200407131556.i6DFuVf8003429@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Raft Trip (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, to be picky, you were on the South Fork. The novice run. Try the Middle Fork of the American, from Oxbow Reservoir to Oregon Bar take-out. (Rucky-Chucky Campground), or overnight to Mammoth Bar. There are a couple of Class V's. One you run, called the Tunnel Chute, the other you portage - Rucky-Chucky - a 20 foot drop. Although some of the guides will go over if they're in the mood to show off. OTT, I'm glad you had a good time. The one trip I took down the Stanislaus was one of those rare unforgettable weekends. To: Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: Raft Trip (No LR Content) > > All, > > I made a new page with the rest of the photos I shot: > > http://homepage.mac.com/shukait/PhotoAlbum30.html > > Cheers, > [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 13 12:12:45 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DGCjVY004059 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:12:45 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DGCjif004058 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:12:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:12:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200407131612.i6DGCj8K004054@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Blue lakes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gaynor and I had a fantastic time on the Blue Lakes trip. As usual, Eric and Brig were first class hosts and it was a great group of people. Eric is an excellent spotter. The trail seemed rougher than last year and I was actually surprised at what we drove over, especially during the morning of day two on the Slickrock trail. That obstacle looked impassable yet we all drove down it. My suspicions were aroused by the group of campers who got up and walked ahead as we drove in. They knew something was ahead that we had not seen and we dissapointed them by not rolling or damaging anything. As usual, the photos do not do it justice and the obstacle looks like a flat trail with gravel on it!!!! Gaynor and I had an extra bit of excitement on the way home. We were nine miles from Angels Camp on HWY 4 and the Land Rover had been intermittently missing on and off for the previous day or so and was on seven cylinders. On HWY 4 it suddenly quit and we rolled to a stop in the 95 degree heat to have a look. Within miniutes Will and Mike came by and we all started trying to fix it. Itwas definately electrical so we replaced the rotor arm and coil in the top of the electronic ignition distributor cap with a new one from Kragen but it was not fixed. It would run and die, run and die. It only ever ran for a few seconds. After replacing a few wires time was getting on and I felt bad for Will and Mike who had to get to the Bay Area. Will towed us to Angels Camp and they headed home very late. I REALLY appreciate all the help you guys gave. Thanks. I owe you a few beers at least. Eric and Brig live close to Angels Camp so we called for help and they came out with a huge diesel Ford and trailer and we went out to dinner with Noni and Stuart from last year. We stayed with Eric and Brig and then very kindly and way beyond all expectations, Eric drove us home to Placerville the next morning with the Land Rover on the trailer. That is a two hour trip each way at least! I have no idea how to thank him for that! I had wanted to use my winch all trip and ironically only had to use it to hold the Land Rover on Eric's trailer coupled with the straps. Right after work yesterday, for which I was 4 hours late... Roland and I got stuck into finding the problem. He bypassed the ignition system in the dash by running a wire from the coil to the battery and got it running, but it was still not happy as voltages were all over the place and it was not charging. It was also still on "only " seven cylinders as well. Anyway, to cut a long story short, a lot of wires were cut out and many were replaced but still there were problems. Then we found that at idle the Alternator was putting out 15 volts and less as I increased the RPM and was way too hot for the short time it had been running.. In other words it was buggered even though it was freshly overhauled. Plus the cunningly named "ignition control module" in the distributor was not controlling the ignition. This Sunday and Monday I am going to limp it or trailer it to BCB at Paso Robles and we are going to put in a brand new wiring harness. All new wiring from end to end and re-overhaul the alternator and a new ignition control module. So, a few months ago, I thought I had finished it. Not a chance. We will be at Niagra Rim for sure. Also Roland my friend who was there at Blue Lakes in the old stock 1988 Rangie has the bug and is going to build something up for offroading from an old 72 Range Rover that he does not have to be too careful of. (because the one he was driving was his girlfriend's!!) Anyway, this turned out to be a long winded account of a boring electrical problem. The bottom line is that we enjoyed the weekend very much and are very grateful for all the help from Will, Mike, Eric and Brig to get the old beast home. It was a great group of people. Thanks. Kind regards, Mark and Gaynor Pilkington. P.S. I have a log of quite good photos. From bens Tue Jul 13 13:11:55 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DHBtVY006490 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:11:55 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DHBtLu006489 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:11:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:11:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200407131711.i6DHBtMt006485@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 2008 Defender / Pimp My Ride Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, > Alex wants to volunteer stubby for "pimp my ride" but I personally > think the Merc would be better. The last time Z and I watched it, he said dad you should do that to the Dormie. It was an Trans Am with a espresso maker in the center console and a chandelier between the t-tops. I'll pass on the chandelier, but the espresso maker is a good idea. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Tue Jul 13 13:25:25 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DHPPVY007091 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:25:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DHPP35007086 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:25:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 13:25:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200407131725.i6DHPOQW007074@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Raft Trip (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Chris, > Great shots of the rafts in the rapids. Looks like the trip was fun > for > all. What camera did you use? I really like the third photo where > you can > see the water running off the tubes as the boat gets air. Nice work. The action shots were taken by "Hot Shots" it's a vendor that sets up by the rapid Trouble Maker and shoots everyone's picture. It was $75 for 7 pictures on a CD, but I did get to split that amount with the four families on the raft. The Troop is off to the Green River in Utah for an 83 mile raft trip in August, Z and I can't wait. Pam planned a quick get-a-way to Train Town and then to Safari West in Santa Rosa and it was a blast. They have all kinds of african animals that have a lot of room to roam unlike a zoo. We stayed in a luxury tent cabin and awoke to giraffe walking by. It was very cool and a great time. Pam put up a page with some of the pictures she took. http://homepage.mac.com/shukait/PhotoAlbum31.html Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Tue Jul 13 14:28:10 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DIS9VY009542 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:28:09 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DIS9gs009541 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:28:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:28:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200407131828.i6DIS9Yb009537@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Mike McUne To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Blue lakes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This was a great trip despite the damage. My wife was only mildly pissed off when I got home late on Sunday :) I'm glad everyone finally made it home ok. My pictures are posted at: http://www.mcune.com/gallery/BlueLakes07102004 Mike From bens Tue Jul 13 16:01:32 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DK1WVY013313 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:01:32 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DK1WiJ013312 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:01:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:01:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200407132001.i6DK1WrE013308@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Daniel E. Smith" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 2008 Defender / Pimp My Ride Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, after seeing what they did to that Land Cruiser I would not let them touch a Series! Daniel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bens Tue Jul 13 16:50:56 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DKouVY015279 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:50:56 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DKouLj015278 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:50:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:50:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200407132050.i6DKotaY015274@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Pam spotted a Series III 88 in poppy red heading south on 101 near Todd road in the Santa Rosa area. It was about 3:30pm on Saturday. She had a white hard top with no side windows. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Tue Jul 13 17:14:47 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DLElVY016058 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:14:47 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DLElgu016057 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:14:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:14:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200407132114.i6DLEkNl016053@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Kevin Kelly To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: New Defender Rims Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles wrote (after someone suggested that the new Defender may have optional 20" spinners or 13" skinny wheels): > 13's are still in on the older cars - but you gotta use 6-8" > wide wheels and stretch 4' wide tires onto them Back when I took drivers ed from Key driver training back in 1981 our instructor had a cool 70's Impala lowrider. Someone in the class asked him why all lowriders had skinny 13" wheels and skinny 13" tires? He answered "Us poor Mexicans can't afford to buy 15" Cragars or Centerlines with big BF Goodrich Radial TAs like you rich white boys so we buy the cheapest small rims we can find and use the cheapest smallest tires we can fit on the rims". Back then it cost over $250 for a single nice 15" rim with a decent name brand 15" inch tire, but you could buy a full set of cheap 13" rims with skinny tires for less than $250. Kevin (who hopes that Land Rover offers a steel wheel option on the new NAS Defender) From bens Tue Jul 13 17:25:51 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6DLPpVY016631 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:25:51 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6DLPpxh016630 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:25:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:25:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200407132125.i6DLPpmo016626@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Blue lakes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Excellent photos Mike. Thanks. I got so into them, that when I stopped, I was hot and covered in dust again!! Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike McUne" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Blue lakes > > This was a great trip despite the damage. My wife was only mildly > pissed off when I got home late on Sunday :) > > I'm glad everyone finally made it home ok. > > My pictures are posted at: http://www.mcune.com/gallery/BlueLakes07102004 > > Mike [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 13 20:13:17 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6E0DHVY023000 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:13:17 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6E0DH8Q022999 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:13:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:13:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200407140013.i6E0DGth022995@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: now pauls boom? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- tomw wrote: > > > NOT TO MENTION.......the friggen lock doesn't work > with the > > > key...but that's another issue...will go into teh > exploding > > > heater hose.....and than the second kaboom tomorrow. > > > > Now What? Did I miss some other messages? was in second day of test driving the disco...all was well, and ready to head over to get replacement heater hoses...than...kabooom! one hose split in half for 8" luckilly you had left the other hose twice as long from the hot water shower you had installed previously, so i was able to cut that in half and install.... than yesterday i took a load of stuff to storage, and as I pulled up there....hissssssss...and getting bigger...I pulled in, shut down and unloaded...than popped hood and pulled offending heater hose off with a whoosh of coolant from the heater(oops! lucky for the towels I had handy to protect myself!) on inspection, i found that I had managed to bugger up the hose as I had it clamped in pliers trying to force a 5/8 hose on a 3/4 nipple...no comment there) It was too shourt after cutting off teh offending damage, so I decided to bypass the heater to get home...I found that the hose ended up pinching itself off, and was worried as I recall that the system requires a constant frow out/in the engine or would overheat, but figured a five mile trip home would be ok(..second oops!)I added the 1/2 gal of coolant I had, and drove 200 feet to the faucet to fill up completely...and acidently filled the resivoir up 3/4 in above teh mark....hmm! decided not to leave the cap loose, and drove home. I made it home with no signs of overheating at all....until i turned off the ign...Elisa stepped out, and BAAAAAAAANG! water coming out everywhere! I knew what had happened, so didn't even look until this morning before calling teh dealer to get replacement top hose...have a look here to see, it really blew apart! http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/androbus/album?.dir=/4f0a&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/androbus/album%3f.dir=/%26urlhint=actn,del%253as,1%253af,0 anyway...now I have the replacdement heater hoses, and top rad hose all ready to install with the new cap/rotor and fuel filter that were waiting at the shop for me, so guess what I am doing tonight? ;-) > PS: go easy on the bicycle! :) bummer! too friggen HOT here in Fresno for a bike! ;-( Dang! and...too hot to even work on the beast 'til night... Paul From bens Tue Jul 13 21:55:33 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6E1tXVY027131 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:55:33 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6E1tXSu027130 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:55:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:55:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200407140155.i6E1tW08027126@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: A Little Help Please Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, I sold the Disco Air Dam and fog lights, but still have 5 ea. 235/70x16 tires and a Pertronix for a Series rig. My sister is broke and needs tires for here 83 GMC diesel pickup. I'll trade my tires and Pertronix for at least 4 same size 15" tires with at least 40% tread left. Thank you in advance if you can help. I'm on digest so please reply directly. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Wed Jul 14 00:42:00 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6E4g0VY002725 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:42:00 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6E4g0LJ002724 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:42:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:41:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200407140441.i6E4fx0x002720@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: now pauls boom? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 17:13, Paul Archibald wrote: > --- tomw wrote: > > > > > NOT TO MENTION.......the friggen lock doesn't work > > with the > > > > key...but that's another issue...will go into teh > > exploding > > > > heater hose.....and than the second kaboom tomorrow. eek! > was in second day of test driving the disco...all was well, > and ready to head over to get replacement heater > hoses...than...kabooom! one hose split in half for 8" > luckilly you had left the other hose twice as long from the > hot water shower you had installed previously, Your Welcome :) > than yesterday i took a load of stuff to storage, and as I > pulled up there....hissssssss...and getting bigger...I not more! > protect myself!) on inspection, i found that I had managed > to bugger up the hose as I had it clamped in pliers trying > to force a 5/8 hose on a 3/4 nipple...no comment there) BF(P)H P=Pipe, figure out the rest :) > completely...and acidently filled the resivoir up 3/4 in > above teh mark....hmm! decided not to leave the cap loose, > and drove home. Hmm. > I made it home with no signs of overheating at all....until > i turned off the ign...Elisa stepped out, and BAAAAAAAANG! > water coming out everywhere! Paul, your just one adventure after another! Maybe its the Disco's way of getting needed attention :) My wifes enjoys hearing of your escapades ( Secretly I bet she's glad it ain't me, in fact it provides a smoothing effect for my *slighlty* less catastrohpic escapades if used/told at the right times :) > anyway...now I have the replacdement heater hoses, and top > rad hose all ready to install with the new cap/rotor and > fuel filter that were waiting at the shop for me, so guess > what I am doing tonight? ;-) > > PS: go easy on the bicycle! :) bummer! > too friggen HOT here in Fresno for a bike! ;-( Dang! > and...too hot to even work on the beast 'til night... I knew there was a reason I only lived in Aridzona for 7 years ( at two different times ).... something about, "ya but its a dry heat!", just doesn't cut it with me, a pizza oven is dry heat, nuff said! Hopefully this will be the end of these episodes for a while eh! At least you don't need the engine I posted yesterday! PS: someone make me an offer on my 3.5L, I need D60's, the tow rig puked another tranny ( going big time with the rebuild this time, no more stock ones, lets find the next weakest part eh!! ), the grape just got back from surgery, the previous bozo installed the *WRONG* clutch witch cooked in 6k miles!.....and now the wife wants a condo in Hawaii to diversify and for retirement.....and I ain't gonna say no to that ( Maui or Kona )! I better get back to work, who's gonna pay for all this!?! > Paul -- TomW From bens Wed Jul 14 00:52:53 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6E4qrVY003131 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:52:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6E4qrEh003130 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:52:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:52:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200407140452.i6E4qrCI003126@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: A Little Help Please Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 18:55, Keith Shukait wrote: > I sold the Disco Air Dam and fog lights, but still have 5 ea. 235/70x16 > tires and a Pertronix for a Series rig. My sister is broke and needs > tires for here 83 GMC diesel pickup. I'll trade my tires and Pertronix > for at least 4 same size 15" tires with at least 40% tread left. Thank > you in advance if you can help. I'm on digest so please reply > directly. I got four old porsche rims and and tires ( getting back to that small tire look we just talked about ), I don't know about the bolt pattern though! :) Good luck, I hope you find her something! ( at one point in Las Coombres ( los gatos ) I had almost 50 good tires and rims at once, almost half half attached to running vehicles, many of em Land-Rovers ta-boot ) I'm down to 29 now! ya big diet! I am toying with selling one of the D90 sets either 35" SSR's or 37 inch boggers both 15" but they are pricier than you'd like and kinda big... And I won't know wich set I'll keep... if I do get D60's then I keep the 37's else I keep the 35's > Keith & Pam Shukait > 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" > 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" -- TomW From bens Wed Jul 14 01:18:51 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6E5IpVY004089 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:18:51 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6E5Ipfi004088 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:18:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 01:18:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200407140518.i6E5Ip0q004084@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: New 16' Airstream Bambi (No LR Content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, I took these photos at Manteca Trailer coming back from my folks place in Arnold. It a 2004 16 footer. I know some folks on the list have AS and was just trading emails with Paul about it. http://homepage.mac.com/shukait/PhotoAlbum32.html Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Wed Jul 14 13:18:55 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6EHItVY032429 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:18:55 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6EHItUJ032428 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:18:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:18:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200407141718.i6EHIsU1032424@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: BwanaE@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Blue Lakes recap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 39 lines filtered. ] Brigid and I would like to say a big thank you to all who participated last weekend. They were truly a great bunch of folks who took everything the challenging trail threw at them with good grace, a sense of humor, and a great attitude. The trail was much harder than years past and some of the trucks came away bruised and scraped. Despite that, we completed the trail by Saturday night and camped at Hermit Valley on the river. On Sunday morning when I offered to flesh out the weekend by leading a gaggle up the nearby Slickrock trail, several folks raised their hands and signed up for even more abuse. We finished with a late lunch at trail's end on Lake Alpine. A more complete report will be in the next NCRC newsletter. Thanks again to: Mark and Gaynor Pilkington. V-8 Series IIA Chris de Jesus, Disco Mike McUne, Disco Greg Moore and Cindy Smith, D-90 Roland Preissner and Connie Jackson, Range Rover classic Josh Fischer and Melissa Johnson, Disco Rupert and Dominic Jung, Disco Will Selden, Disco Eric Cope 1232 Appaloosa Road Angels Camp, CA. 95222 Home phone: 209-736-9279 Cell phone: 209-988-2842 E-mail: BwanaE@aol.com From bens Wed Jul 14 14:41:04 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6EIf4VY003345 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:41:04 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6EIf4Ua003344 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:41:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:41:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200407141841.i6EIf392003340@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Subject: Re: Blue Lakes recap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Apologies for chiming in late. Work has been crazy. A BIG BIG thanks to Eric and Brigid for hosting the BLT and offering tasty samples of their venison sausages at dinner time, YUM. I had a great time hanging out with everyone around the fire. The NCRC (Land Rover) camaraderie never ceases to amaze me. Thanks to Roland (die Deutches MacGyver) and Mark P. for the trailside steering hose repair. It held up fine all the way home. I have new hoses on order and they should be installed soon, time allowing. Seconding Eric's comment, the trail was much more challenging going the reverse direction. Scratches, dings and blown hoses have added to my Disco's character. Hope to see all those that attended again, and hopefully a few new faces on next years trek. Regards, Chris De Jesus Mudy_Ovl, 95 D1 From bens Wed Jul 14 15:06:56 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6EJ6uVY004315 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:06:56 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6EJ6uuu004314 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:06:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:06:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200407141906.i6EJ6tZ1004310@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "ishiiman" To: Subject: Re: Blue Lakes recap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks to Eric & Brigid Cope, It was a fun trip. I'd do it again, but with another 1" lift minimum, either that or more driver training on my part. :) After passing the SlickRock test, Dominic gets to go to college. Rupert ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Blue Lakes recap > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] > [ 39 lines filtered. ] > > > Brigid and I would like to say a big thank you to all who participated last > weekend. They were truly a great bunch of folks who took everything the > challenging trail threw at them with good grace, a sense of humor, and a great > attitude. The trail was much harder than years past and some of the trucks came away > bruised and scraped. Despite that, we completed the trail by Saturday night > and camped at Hermit Valley on the river. On Sunday morning when I offered to > flesh out the weekend by leading a gaggle up the nearby Slickrock trail, > several folks raised their hands and signed up for even more abuse. We finished with > a late lunch at trail's end on Lake Alpine. A more complete report will be in > the next NCRC newsletter. > > Thanks again to: > Mark and Gaynor Pilkington. V-8 Series IIA > Chris de Jesus, Disco > Mike McUne, Disco > Greg Moore and Cindy Smith, D-90 > Roland Preissner and Connie Jackson, Range Rover classic > Josh Fischer and Melissa Johnson, Disco [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Jul 14 15:41:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6EJfQVY005664 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:41:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6EJfQ2i005663 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:41:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:41:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200407141941.i6EJfQ3w005657@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Taylor Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Shop location? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] [ 7 lines filtered. ] I have been off the list for the past few months, and was wondering if anyone could simply provide me the name and contact number for the shop where Jeremey Bartlett works over in the North Bay? I would like to have my truck serviced there and just want to get ahold of them! Thanks much! Taylor Pipes From bens Wed Jul 14 16:26:20 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6EKQJVY007484 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:26:19 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6EKQJeK007483 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:26:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:26:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200407142026.i6EKQJQM007479@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mark Pilkington" To: Subject: Re: Blue Lakes recap Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Chris, If we had done a good job, it would not have leaked at all :-) Glad to have been able to get you off the hill at least. 2000 PSI is hard to keep behind a water hose patch with JB weld in it and a few hose clamps. Sorry you missed Slickrock. It was even more challenging than Blue Lakes ( OR at least a few parts of it!!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris De Jesus" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Blue Lakes recap > > Apologies for chiming in late. Work has been crazy. A BIG BIG thanks to > Eric and Brigid for hosting the BLT and offering tasty samples of their > venison sausages at dinner time, YUM. I had a great time hanging out with > everyone around the fire. The NCRC (Land Rover) camaraderie never ceases to > amaze me. Thanks to Roland (die Deutches MacGyver) and Mark P. for the > trailside steering hose repair. It held up fine all the way home. I have > new hoses on order and they should be installed soon, time allowing. > Seconding Eric's comment, the trail was much more challenging going the > reverse direction. Scratches, dings and blown hoses have added to my > Disco's character. Hope to see all those that attended again, and hopefully > a few new faces on next years trek. > Regards, > Chris De Jesus > Mudy_Ovl, 95 D1 > > From bens Wed Jul 14 19:56:55 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6ENutVY015776 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:56:55 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6ENutqH015775 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:56:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:56:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200407142356.i6ENusvZ015771@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: now pauls boom? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paulie - you have nobody to blame but yourself - and me - for that one...I put the hex on it, and you ignored it! :) Charles - who spotted D110 #292 sitting in a used car lot today, POSSIBLY for sale...(I'll find out!) -----Original message----- From: Paul Archibald androbus@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:13:17 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: now pauls boom? > > --- tomw wrote: > > > > > NOT TO MENTION.......the friggen lock doesn't work > > with the > > > > key...but that's another issue...will go into teh > > exploding > > > > heater hose.....and than the second kaboom tomorrow. > > > [ 45 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Jul 14 23:03:09 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6F339VY023183 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:03:09 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6F339Nk023182 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:03:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:03:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200407150303.i6F339oY023178@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Paul Archibald To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: now pauls boom? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- cirvin wrote: > > Paulie - you have nobody to blame but yourself - and me - > for that one...I put the hex on it, and you ignored it! > > :) > > Charles - who spotted D110 #292 sitting in a used car lot > today, POSSIBLY for sale...(I'll find out!) yeah Charles....thanks! you KNOW Elisa wants one, and NOW in NOT the time to even taunt us with it as money is more than tight...Tell me the price laster, but don't tell her... Paul(still think tha Paul's(that certain rover shop in LA youclued me in on) Bowler racer would be a better new rover for me....if only I had the $$ From bens Wed Jul 14 23:36:48 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6F3amVY024532 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:36:48 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6F3ams7024531 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:36:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:36:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200407150336.i6F3amTI024527@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Crocuta To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I just got out of Safeway in Walnut Creek and while putting the groceries in the Subaru I turned to see a RHD 109 3 door ex-mod lookin Series (III?? saw the side and back only). It had a full length canvas top and looked really cool! Anyone's here? I could have sworn I've seen the same truck in photos either here or on the NCRC newsletter. -Marshall From bens Thu Jul 15 00:20:14 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6F4KDVY027447 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:20:13 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6F4KDPp027446 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:20:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:20:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200407150420.i6F4KAcX027442@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Land Rover Heater Bypass Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Paul wrote (and attached a link to the pinched heater hose): > I decided to bypass the heater to get home... > I found that the hose ended up pinching itself off, > and was worried as I recall that the system requires a > constant flow out/in the engine or would overheat, but > figured a five mile trip home would be ok(..second oops!) Is it OK to just cap the pipes going to the heater core? I seem to remember that Michael Slade just installed a valve to turn off the water to the heater core (and a Google search found the link below): http://www.jpurnell.com/RR/heater_core/heater_core_isolation.htm Kevin From bens Thu Jul 15 00:37:48 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6F4bmVY028201 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:37:48 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6F4bmaJ028200 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:37:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:37:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200407150437.i6F4blYg028193@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: hot rod/speed shop help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org yep, it's true. I'm working on the Dormie clutch; I'm converting the series 2A double clutch brake reservoir thing to a series three clutch master with it's own res. I have the flex line from the slave cylinder up, and hard line from the master down. But i don't want to connect them. I want a nice, single flex line from master to slave, which is essential what I had in the first place, minus the nice. It was a single plastic line from master to slave with metal fittings at each end. I need a new one because one end was fused to the line and broke upon disassembly. SO, I go to Napa and ask if they can make me a new line. No, the bubble flare is a no go. They send me to Hose and something in Sac. They're a real hydraulic shop and don't do stuff this small. they send me to Capitol Clutch and Brake. The geniuses there decide the clutch line is metric because it has a bubble flare. then they measure it and say it's weird, 9mm. dumb shits. I told them it was not metric, but hey didn't believe me. I left. I've googled and looked but can find the info I need. First, the line is 3/16. The fitting is 3/8 tubing thread(?) 24 tpi. The flare is a bubble flare. Hot rod types seen to be using AN stuff? What I think I need is the proper adapter to go in the master and slave cylinder and then a nice teflon/ss line. Can someone point me to a description of parts like this? I need to see exactly where a series 3 6 cylinder truck would have a bracket to hold the union between flex line and hard line. It's got to be by the fuel sediment bowl. I don't like the way the flex line barely touches a piece of the accelerator linkage, and so I want a better solution. Thanks for reading this far, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2002 Merlin Extra Fat, 2004 Steve Rex (done!) ours: 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Thu Jul 15 00:37:53 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6F4brVY028207 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:37:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6F4brLZ028206 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:37:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:37:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200407150437.i6F4bl4d028191@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Shop location? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 45 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-36--108709635 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Land Rover of Marin. Craig On Jul 14, 2004, at 12:41 PM, Taylor Pipes wrote: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] > [ 7 lines filtered. ] > > I have been off the list for the past few months, and was wondering if > anyone could simply provide me the name and contact number for the > shop where Jeremey Bartlett works over in the North Bay? > [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Craig Reece Neoteric Biofuels http://www.biofuels.ca --Apple-Mail-36--108709635 From bens Thu Jul 15 00:45:43 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6F4jhVY028903 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:45:43 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6F4jhqq028902 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:45:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:45:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200407150445.i6F4jhhE028898@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Mehdi Saghafi" To: Subject: RE: hot rod/speed shop help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, talk to Timm or Mat, I have a SIII clutch master, connected to a landcruser slave via steel braded hose. They sourced it for me. 805 2370738 From bens Thu Jul 15 01:11:09 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6F5B8VY029878 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:11:08 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6F5B8PO029877 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:11:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:11:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200407150511.i6F5B8DT029873@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: cirvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: hot rod/speed shop help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, I'm running a SIII gearbox/clutch/clutch slave in Gillian with the original res: I simply made a new line out of copper tubing, slapped a couple of fittings on it & flared the ends, and was on my way. Never even thought they used a plastic line on something like that, though you MAY want to find somebody that carries Mercury Capri parts, because their clutch line was a similar animal to what you have (dunno if the fittings are the same size, though)... Or - perhaps BP/WO has a replacement hose??? Charles -----Original message----- From: John Hess jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:37:48 -0700 To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: hot rod/speed shop help > > yep, it's true. > > I'm working on the Dormie clutch; I'm converting the series 2A double > clutch brake reservoir thing to a series three clutch master with it's > own res. I have the flex line from the slave cylinder up, and hard > line from the master down. But i don't want to connect them. I want a > nice, single flex line from master to slave, which is essential what I > had in the first place, minus the nice. It was a single plastic line [ 37 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 15 04:32:41 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6F8WeVY005374 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:32:40 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6F8WemI005373 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:32:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 04:32:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200407150832.i6F8WeRM005369@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Shop location? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ummmm nope. He left Land Rover of Marin a few years back. Jeremy was most recently seen at: British Car Company 5830 Paradise Drive, Corte Madera, (415) 927-2995 It's across the road from that bastion of gourmet delights "Denny's" on the east side of 101 at the Corte Madera exit. Gerry At 12:37 AM -0400 7/15/04, craig reece wrote: > >Land Rover of Marin. >On Jul 14, 2004, at 12:41 PM, Taylor Pipes wrote: > > > > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > > [ text/html; charset=us-ascii ] > > [ 7 lines filtered. ] > > [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 15 09:10:46 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FDAkVY016279 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:10:46 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FDAkrw016278 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:10:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:10:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151310.i6FDAkfk016274@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: hot rod/speed shop help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John I converted The Green Rover over to SIII dual brakes & master cylinder back around '96, redid the clutch line when the V8 was installed and converted both of Kick's Dormies over for him. I purchased new British hydraluic fittings from Rover's North, a bubble flare tool from Eastwood Co and used generic made up bubble flare brake lines hanging on the wall at my local auto parts store. I'd buy the next longer length than I thought I would need, cut off one of the flares, remove the American fittings, slide in one UK fitting, bend to shape mark a cut point (a tad longer than I needed) cut the pipe to fit, slide on the second fitting and made a new bubble flare. The only trick is to make sure you have no bends close to the end so there is room for the flaring tool. T. J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Thu Jul 15 09:28:13 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FDSDVY016872 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:28:13 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FDSD1R016871 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:28:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:28:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151328.i6FDSDYs016867@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo rec list Subject: opps, correction Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org opps please read "and converted both of Kick's Dormies over for him. " as: "and converted both of Nick's Dormies over for him. " sigh TeriAnn From bens Thu Jul 15 11:53:00 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FFr0VY022652 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:53:00 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FFr0sD022651 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:53:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:52:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151552.i6FFqxw9022647@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Brian.Foster@tais.toshiba.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: OT: New Cortina owner Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I know Charles and others might be - or are - Ford Cortina owners. I am not sure if anyone caught this Ebay auction, but I certainly did. I went and looked at this car and fell in love at first sight. I made arrangements to buy this car because the winning bidder backed out. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2483033558&r d=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT My dad drove Cortina Mk2s during most of my childhood. He was the original owner of a 1969 Mk2 GT 2-door (white with black interior; wrecked in 1977) and the second owner of a 1970 Mk2 non-GT 2-door (Maroon with black interior). He sold the second one just as I was getting old enough to get it and drive it. He sold it so I wouldn't get it (in 1980). I have owned and focused on other sport sedans over the years... the Fiat 128/131 (I may have a 1976 131S 4-door Automatic joining the stable), the Datsun 510, and the BMW 1600/2002. I blame my dad for being such a bad influence! :-) Anyway, I am happy is a clam in warm water and thought I would share with others that might sympathize. Brian Foster Irvine CA From bens Thu Jul 15 12:23:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FGNQVY023869 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:23:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FGNQtr023868 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:23:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:23:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151623.i6FGNPmY023864@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Eric Schoenman To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: New Cortina owner Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ah the mention of cortinas brings back memories. i had a neighbor while in college that was a cortina guru (bob pratt). interesting guy who was always preaching the demise of rockridge with the gentrification. the local comunity group was always after him because he had too many cars parked on the street. they are definitely cool cars. especially the lotus version mk1 or the GT's. my room mate at the time wound up buying a white 68 (i think) mrk 2 gt, white w/ black interior. at the time (1988) it was practically brand new with about 40k on the odo (owned by a little old lady who never drove it until she smacked the front fender and then sold it). have fun. eric 88rrc "dusty" On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:52 AM, Brian.Foster@tais.toshiba.com wrote: > > > > I know Charles and others might be - or are - Ford Cortina owners. I am > not sure if anyone caught this Ebay auction, but I certainly did. I > went > and looked at this car and fell in love at first sight. > > I made arrangements to buy this car because the winning bidder backed [ 28 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Jul 15 13:32:52 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FHWqVY026645 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:32:52 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FHWq7M026644 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:32:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:32:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151732.i6FHWq6J026640@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Shop location? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 63 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-62--62179393 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Oh right - thanks and sorry for bad info. Craig On Jul 15, 2004, at 1:32 AM, G. Mugele wrote: > > Ummmm nope. He left Land Rover of Marin a few years back. Jeremy > was most recently seen at: > British Car Company 5830 Paradise Drive, > Corte Madera, (415) 927-2995 > > It's across the road from that bastion of gourmet delights "Denny's" > on the east side of 101 at the Corte Madera exit. > [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Craig Reece Neoteric Biofuels http://www.biofuels.ca --Apple-Mail-62--62179393 From bens Thu Jul 15 14:01:01 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FI11VY027846 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:01:01 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FI1115027845 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:01:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:01:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151801.i6FI11mG027841@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Ted V Harwood II" To: Subject: Spring bushing removal tool Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Does anyone on the list have a spring bushing removal tool that they are willing to lend or know of an inexpensive one to buy? My present bushings are intact, but I would like to replace them before painting the frame as I am doing a complete rebuild. I attempted to remove the bushing with a threaded rod and pipes but the rod broke without budging the bushing. I replaced one of the bushings 25+ years ago but my memory of how I accomplished the task is lost in the mists of time. I know I can always cut them out with a sawzall but my hands start to vibrate at the mere thought of it. Thanks, Ted From bens Thu Jul 15 14:17:49 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FIHnVY028464 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:17:49 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FIHncH028463 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:17:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:17:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151817.i6FIHnPP028459@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: OT: New Cortina owner Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hmmmm.... I find all this Cortina nostalgia kind of interesting. In May of 1966 I bought a new Mark I GT a drove it across the country.... three times. That was the car I sold to buy my first Land Rover. While I enjoyed the Cortina and was often amazed at what that 1.5 L engine could do... I know that the Land Rover purchase was the right move.... heck in two weeks it will have been 35 years of Land Rovers for me. Gerry From bens Thu Jul 15 14:41:28 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FIfSVY029441 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:41:28 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FIfSBI029440 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:41:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:41:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151841.i6FIfStR029436@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Spring bushing removal tool Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I don't have a spring bushing removal tool for you to make your life easier, but I do have Gieco insurance. I used a hacksaw to cut thru the inner steel sleeve, the rubber filler and the outer steel sleeve. Sucked. Some folks use a propane burner to roast the rubber, then have only the outer bushing sleeve to hack thru. Call BCB. I'm sure they have some hints to happiness. >>> tvharwood@comcast.net 07/15/04 11:01AM >>> Does anyone on the list have a spring bushing removal tool that they are willing to lend or know of an inexpensive one to buy? My present bushings are intact, but I would like to replace them before painting the frame as I am doing a complete rebuild. I attempted to remove the bushing with a threaded rod and pipes but the rod broke without budging the bushing. I replaced one of the bushings 25+ years ago but my memory of how I accomplished the task is lost in the mists of time. I know I can always cut them out with a sawzall but my hands start to vibrate at the mere thought of it. Thanks, Ted From bens Thu Jul 15 15:42:50 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FJgoVY031744 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:42:50 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FJgooI031743 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:42:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:42:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151942.i6FJgo08031739@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Ted V Harwood II" To: Subject: Re: Spring bushing removal tool Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Eric, I just tried the burning method. Heated the inner sleeves till the rubber caught fire then drove them out with a large punch. Then cut the outer sleeves and drove them out with a little chisel. No big deal if you don't mind a lot of sweat and the smell of burning rubber. Last night I spent about an hour driving out the steering relay. When I called British Pacific they told me that those were the two hardest parts of a rebuild. Oh Joy, I guess I will be back on the road in no time! Ted From bens Thu Jul 15 15:59:36 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6FJxaVY032353 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:59:36 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6FJxaD9032352 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:59:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:59:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200407151959.i6FJxZAo032348@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cc: John Hess Subject: Re: hot rod/speed shop help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, Here's one of the vendors I've selected to help with the Dormobile restoration. I've been told these folks can make any hose or tube, here's their add: Tubes n' Hoses International Qwens Research, Inc. Authorized Dealer / Distributor: Sease's Auto Service 1444 North 4th Street San Jose, Ca. 95112-4715 408-453-8181 "Announcing The Most Complete Tube & Hose Fabrication Center in Fluidline History" "We Duplicate Virtually Any Tube or Hose Metric or American" "We specialize en bending and forming metal tubing from 3/16" to 1 1/4". Custom fabrication and production work for automobiles, trucks, buses, farm, industrial, marine, mining, construction, forestry, chemical, manufacturing, instrumentation, sports vehicles and much much more." "Featuring exclusive patented service equipment designed and manufactured by Owens Research, Inc." Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait Dormobile Owner Register Email List Dormobile Owner's Club Member# 701 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Thu Jul 15 21:18:37 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6G1IbVY012650 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:18:37 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6G1Ibar012649 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:18:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:18:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200407160118.i6G1IaS4012645@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: hot rod/speed shop help + Euro 6 FS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Timm's the ticket. I need a 3/8 24 to AN3 adapter at the top and bottom (with a copper crush washer), plus a hose in between. Oil Filter Supply Co in Portland OR is their source. From the internet, I've seen lots of things and might want a 90 degree bend at top and bottom as well. BTW, Timm has a LR euro 6 and tranny for sale, coming out of his series 3 109 to make room for a straight 6 vortec something something. On Jul 14, 2004, at 9:45 PM, Mehdi Saghafi wrote: > > John, talk to Timm or Mat, I have a SIII clutch master, connected to a > landcruser slave via steel braded hose. They sourced it for me. > 805 2370738 > > John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2002 Merlin Extra Fat, 2004 Steve Rex (done!) ours: 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Fri Jul 16 14:53:27 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6GIrRVY023824 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:53:27 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6GIrRdS023823 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:53:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:53:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200407161853.i6GIrQt1023819@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: re. Re: hot rod/speed shop help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yes, Yes, Yes - I've done all that! You can also buy a 20' bulk coil of brake tubing for approx $25 thru NAPA. Useful if you need to make really long lengths with no joints in between because premade brake lines are 6' max length. Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:10:46 -0400 From: TeriAnn Wakeman Subject: Re: hot rod/speed shop help ........I purchased new British hydraluic fittings from Rover's North, a bubble flare tool from Eastwood Co and used generic made up bubble flare brake lines hanging on the wall at my local auto parts store. I'd buy the next longer length than I thought I would need, cut off one of the flares, remove the American fittings, slide in one UK fitting, bend to shape mark a cut point (a tad longer than I needed) cut the pipe to fit, slide on the second fitting and made a new bubble flare. The only trick is to make sure you have no bends close to the end so there is room for the flaring tool. T. J. Wakeman __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Fri Jul 16 15:13:18 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6GJDHVY024609 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:13:17 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6GJDHY6024608 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:13:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:13:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200407161913.i6GJDHuf024604@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: SIII Clutch Mstr Cyl conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John - FWIW, When I did this on my IIA, I failed to notice the SIII master cylinder didn't properly index to my SIIA pedal tower. I simply bolted it in while not realizing the cylinder had dropped out of alignment a bit due to its own weight and the sloppy mounting holes. A year later my cylinder was ruined because (I think) the pedal push rod was always pushing the steel piston diagonally into the aluminum bore. I ended up purchasing a new cylinder, used care during it's torque down, and it's still OK. JoeMulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:37:47 -0400 From: John Hess Subject: hot rod/speed shop help ......I'm converting the series 2A double clutch brake reservoir thing to a series three clutch master with it's own res....... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Fri Jul 16 16:51:50 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6GKpoVY028804 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:51:50 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6GKpomw028803 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:51:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:51:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200407162051.i6GKpoqi028799@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: JB Engine Treatment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Nathan and all, I had a Land Rover mechanic friend replace the driver side lumbar support and had him take a listen. He said the same thing as you and said it's very common. He's going to replace all the rockers on that side for $150 plus parts. The rocker assembly has to come off to remove the bad rocker, so I might as well replace the others as long as it's apart. Thanks for the good advise. The check engine light has been off for almost two weeks! It's an all time record. I really feel I have 98% of the bugs worked out and she running really good. It's a pleasure to drive when everything is working. After parking in the boondocks for the past three years it's finally happened. Someone opened up their door and snagged the black door sticker. I'm gonna trim off the tear and color it in with a sharpie, or maybe a little black touch up paint. I know I'm picky about things, but you'll all be happy to know I'm not having the whole sticker kit removed to fix the small tear. ;^) With all the trouble I've had, I've thought about selling it and buying a dependable car. With the low Blue Book value at $7721.00 ti's just not worth selling. I'll continue to fix and enjoy it. I think the XD needs a few more years to become a collector LR and "maybe" the value will turn around. God knows I taken good care of it and I don't think there's a nicer XD with the Event Decal package any where in North America. > I had what I thought was a sticky lifter or valve and tried several > additives, > but it turned out to be a rocker arm cup that was worn enough to avoid > pushing > the valve open enough. Usually if tappets are stuck they don't spin > but will > still push against the rod then the rocker then the valve (just not > efficiently). You may want to pull the valve cover and rotate the > crank and [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Fri Jul 16 17:05:53 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6GL5rVY029416 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:05:53 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6GL5rea029415 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:05:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:05:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200407162105.i6GL5rBE029411@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: JB Engine Treatment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I bought a complete V-8 rocker arm assembly for around $100 from SJLR about a year ago. >>> shukait@mac.com 07/16/04 01:51PM >>> Nathan and all, I had a Land Rover mechanic friend replace the driver side lumbar support and had him take a listen. He said the same thing as you and said it's very common. He's going to replace all the rockers on that side for $150 plus parts. The rocker assembly has to come off to remove the bad rocker, so I might as well replace the others as long as it's apart. Thanks for the good advise. The check engine light has been off for almost two weeks! It's an all time record. I really feel I have 98% of the bugs worked out and she running really good. It's a pleasure to drive when everything is working. After parking in the boondocks for the past three years it's finally happened. Someone opened up their door and snagged the black door sticker. I'm gonna trim off the tear and color it in with a sharpie, or maybe a little black touch up paint. I know I'm picky about things, but you'll all be happy to know I'm not having the whole sticker kit removed to fix the small tear. ;^) With all the trouble I've had, I've thought about selling it and buying a dependable car. With the low Blue Book value at $7721.00 ti's just not worth selling. I'll continue to fix and enjoy it. I think the XD needs a few more years to become a collector LR and "maybe" the value will turn around. God knows I taken good care of it and I don't think there's a nicer XD with the Event Decal package any where in North America. > I had what I thought was a sticky lifter or valve and tried several > additives, > but it turned out to be a rocker arm cup that was worn enough to avoid > pushing > the valve open enough. Usually if tappets are stuck they don't spin > but will > still push against the rod then the rocker then the valve (just not > efficiently). You may want to pull the valve cover and rotate the > crank and [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Fri Jul 16 17:18:11 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6GLIBVY029837 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:18:11 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6GLIBuI029836 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:18:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:18:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200407162118.i6GLIBl4029832@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: John Hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: SIII Clutch Mstr Cyl conversion Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks, I know what you're talking about and have not tightened things down because I need Alex to help. Is your clutch reservoir level? On Jul 16, 2004, at 12:13 PM, joe mulqueen wrote: > > John - FWIW, > When I did this on my IIA, I failed to notice the SIII > master cylinder didn't properly index to my SIIA pedal > tower. I simply bolted it in while not realizing the > cylinder had dropped out of alignment a bit due to its > John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby", 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" mine: 1999 Bianchi Milano, 2000 custom fixed gear (I built the frame), 2002 Merlin Extra Fat, 2004 Steve Rex (done!) ours: 2002 Meridian Attache Softride Tandem From bens Fri Jul 16 17:21:50 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6GLLoVY030050 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:21:50 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6GLLoxa030049 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:21:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 17:21:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200407162121.i6GLLoJ3030045@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: hot rod/speed shop help + Euro 6 FS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, I gotta call Pat Young and see if he has my NADA 6 apart yet. If mine is junk then I'll talk to Timm about a NADA 6 he has on the shop floor. I stopped by his shop a few months ago on a return trip from Santa Monica. The NADA 6 was painted baby blue, I wonder if that was the correct color? The Dormie is coming completely apart as soon as Z and I return from the Green River trip. > BTW, Timm has a LR euro 6 and tranny for sale, coming out of his > series 3 109 to make room for a straight 6 vortec something something. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Fri Jul 16 21:03:11 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6H13BVY006446 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:03:11 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6H13BBS006445 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:03:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:03:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200407170103.i6H13BuH006441@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Re: JB Engine Treatment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Land Rover has rebuilt shaft assys, which saves time dismantling and reassembling and I think they are cheaper than the rockers individually.... Later Aidan Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail, Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying "Dude, that was awesome " http://community.webshots.com/user/auditech ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Johnson" To: Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: Re: JB Engine Treatment > > I bought a complete V-8 rocker arm assembly for around $100 from SJLR about a year ago. > > >>> shukait@mac.com 07/16/04 01:51PM >>> > > Nathan and all, > > I had a Land Rover mechanic friend replace the driver side lumbar > support and had him take a listen. He said the same thing as you and > said it's very common. He's going to replace all the rockers on that > side for $150 plus parts. The rocker assembly has to come off to [ 42 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Jul 17 04:44:08 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6H8i8VY025837 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 04:44:08 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6H8i8QH025836 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 04:44:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 04:44:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200407170844.i6H8i83a025832@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: JB Engine Treatment Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 13:51, shukait@mac.com wrote: > With all the trouble I've had, I've thought about selling it and buying > a dependable car. With the low Blue Book value at $7721.00 ti's just > not worth selling. I'll continue to fix and enjoy it. I think the XD > needs a few more years to become a collector LR and "maybe" the value > will turn around. I'm not knocking you keith, cus lord knows I've thought this way too, but: the, "maybe the value will turn around" thought and sanity aparently take two paths if you get my drift... If we all add upp the cost of ownership of these things ( or 99.99% ) of any other vehicles out there.... "their value will never turn around enough" especially if you add in maintence and gas, insurance, taxes etc... you will definately be in the proverbial hole :) I guess the most important things is: do ya like the vehicle, then hey go for it... give it that nice expensive car bath or mud tyres ect... I once bought a 1984 VW gti from my brother in law for a buck ($1).. ( prolly around 1993 ) he said if I got it out of his yard it was myne for a buck, he couldn't start it and he had another car... I fixed the broken ground strap and drove it away :) I used it for 2nd car and an autocross rig for a while then ultimately sold it a few years later for $1500.... but I did some maintence on her ( not much ) but I bet thats as close as I'll ever get for "making" money on a car. If I included gas, insurance, registration ect I'd be lucky if I broke even! -- TomW From bens Sat Jul 17 20:05:17 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6I05HVY028635 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:05:17 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6I05HNw028634 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:05:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 20:05:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200407180005.i6I05H63028630@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Jeremy Bartlett To: mendo Subject: Restored/Renovated '65 109SW For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'll be listing my '65 renovated/restored vehicle (Mathilda) in the next week or so on LRX and other locations and thought I'd let list members know first. Anyone who is looking for a 109 Station Wagon might want to contact me off list for details and photos (jjbartlett@earthlink.net) (I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area). What with a wedding coming up and two other projects in the wings it's time to alter my holdings :) Jeremy Bartlett From bens Sun Jul 18 02:23:34 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6I6NYVY012490 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:23:34 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6I6NY9D012489 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:23:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:23:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200407180623.i6I6NYnK012485@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1397 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom, > I'm not knocking you keith, cus lord knows I've thought this way too, > but: the, "maybe the value will turn around" thought and sanity > aparently > take two paths if you get my drift... I know the XD will never be worth 20% of what I have in her. It would be nice to see it become a collectable, but I'm not holding my breath. For now I think she's still on the Kelly Blue Book "you loose about $500 every time a new addition comes out. Even will all the trouble I still love the car. I can't get the only other LR I'd rather have so I'm happy. Just incase you're wondering it's a Defender 130 Hi-Cap Crew Cab pick up. Eric and Aidan, Thanks for the rocker arm assembly info, Andy's giving me 15% off on parts at LRSJ so I 'll check it out. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait Northern California Rover Club Mendo-Recce Email List, Digest Version Dormobile Owner's Club Member# 701 Dormobile Owners Register Email List 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Sun Jul 18 19:48:58 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6INmwVY025755 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:48:58 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6INmwQb025754 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:48:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:48:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200407182348.i6INmvCY025750@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Crocuta To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1397 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Keith wrote: >still love the car. I can't get the only other LR I'd rather have so >I'm happy. Just incase you're wondering it's a Defender 130 Hi-Cap >Crew Cab pick up. That guy in Orinda had his red one for sale. I think he mentioned 60k for it however (ouch). I've not seen it in a while so I'm not sure if it's still around or not. -Marshall From bens Sun Jul 18 20:58:22 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6J0wLVY028472 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:58:21 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6J0wLbV028471 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:58:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:58:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200407190058.i6J0wLtg028467@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1397 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 23:23, Keith Shukait wrote: > Tom, > > > I'm not knocking you keith, cus lord knows I've thought this way too, > > but: the, "maybe the value will turn around" thought and sanity > > aparently > > take two paths if you get my drift... > I know the XD will never be worth 20% of what I have in her. It would > be nice to see it become a collectable, Ya, like I said, I wasn't pointing you out, it just reminded me however: Its not an investment, If ya like doing things to it , or keeping it pristine stock, or hacking it with a sawzall its never going to be a return on an investment kinda thing most likely... SO do with it whatcha want! The return is probably irrelevant with respect to what it initially cost you, and what it costs to actually maintain/insure/gas it up,so justifying it based on value, seems a bit of kilter :) ..... Lifes short have a ball! > I can't get the only other LR I'd rather have so > I'm happy. Just incase you're wondering it's a Defender 130 Hi-Cap > Crew Cab pick up. TomW From bens Mon Jul 19 10:29:22 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6JETMVY029214 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:29:22 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6JETMKO029213 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:29:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:29:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200407191429.i6JETM5R029209@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Free Canada Park pass, and Banff sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cynthia and I spent the last week in Banff, and surrounding area. We have a Canada park pass that is good until July of 2005. If anyone is going that way and wants the pass, just email me and I'll drop it in the mail. Sightings while in Canada. 8 Discos(one XD fully loaded) 2 RR 4.0 1 Defender 110 Diesel, with snorkle and oval rear windows. -Rob From bens Mon Jul 19 11:28:17 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6JFSHVY031543 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:28:17 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6JFSH00031542 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:28:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:28:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200407191528.i6JFSGFn031538@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Who's Our Mendo Bio-Diesel Guru? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Would like a contact and website. Thanks Eric From bens Mon Jul 19 11:42:23 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6JFgNVY032137 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:42:23 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6JFgNS4032136 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:42:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:42:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200407191542.i6JFgNCR032132@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: craig reece To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Who's Our Mendo Bio-Diesel Guru? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 34 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-77-276808288 charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed That would be me. Craig Reece Neoteric Biofuels http://www.biofuels.ca On Jul 19, 2004, at 8:28 AM, Eric Johnson wrote: > > > > Would like a contact and website. > > Thanks > Eric > > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] --Apple-Mail-77-276808288 From bens Tue Jul 20 03:29:13 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6K7TDVY006165 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 03:29:13 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6K7TD31006164 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 2004 03:29:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 03:29:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200407200729.i6K7TDxR006160@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: To: Subject: Re: LR Sightings in Turkey Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ null; ] [ 75 lines filtered. ] Hi All: Returned from a 3 week vacation in Turkey last week, just recovered from a nasty bug caught on the flight :( A few sightings randomly throughout Turkey: lots of newer Range Rovers in Istanbul, a few Discos both SI and SII, local Gendarmes use Defender 110s, military uses Defender 90s and 110s. We were behind a military petrol D90 that smoked like a chimney, saw a nice SIII 88 with a bright green paint job, grille badges and a driver grinning broadly. A red SIII in good condition painted shiny red with a matching softtop died red and diamond plates on the wings and sills. Other areas had asstd. civilian D110s including a bronze green expedition outfitted TD model from France. Oh yeah, saw sights in Istanbul, the bomb went off just before the NATO conference a block from our hotel, ate at the same restaurant that Bush was taken to, visited various Aegean and Mediterranean resorts and Cappodocia south east of Ankara in Anatolian region. Bought more carpets (like LRs it's addictive). Would recommend Turkey to anyone, no security concerns (bomb was a leftist political statement), people are super hospitable and like Americans, plenty of historical sites, good food and nice resorts. Karen Sindir (LR owner at large) '74 SIII 88 Red Rufy '66 SIIa 88 Barbaros '95 Disco EFE From bens Wed Jul 21 01:56:27 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6L5uRVY029284 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 01:56:27 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6L5uR2h029283 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 01:56:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 01:56:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200407210556.i6L5uRoA029279@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "rupert jung" To: Subject: Jason Pipes & Black Rock trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 177 lines filtered. ] charset="Windows-1252" Hey Jason, I hope ur leading the Black Rock trip again this yr. It was fun last yr. Esp. hearing those jets at the campsite, right Taylor? The weather might be the same as last yr. It lightly rained in RB last Sun. and I saw thunderheads over Lassen this AM. Maybe u=92ll have some nicely packed desert flooring with some flash flood mud xings like last yr. Sorry, I won=92t be able to attend, but I=92ve talked it up with others. Have fun. =20 Rupert J=20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.699 / Virus Database: 456 - Release Date: 6/4/2004 =20 From bens Fri Jul 23 11:37:06 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6NFb6VY007616 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:37:06 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6NFb62H007615 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:37:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:37:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200407231537.i6NFb51L007611@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Ken Wallich To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Jason Pipes & Black Rock trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I hope so too, and I hope I can attend again if we do! Another question for Jason on last year's trip I'd been playing with on and off. You'd posted a track list from the trip, but I wasn't able to import that into my Garmin GPS program at all, nor could I find a (working) utility to convert it. I know there are a plethora of formats for GPS track lists, any way to get last years in a format that the Garmin software can understand? On Jul 20, 2004, at 10:56 PM, rupert jung wrote: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; ] > [ 177 lines filtered. ] > > charset="Windows-1252" > > Hey Jason, > I hope ur leading the Black Rock trip again this yr. It was fun last [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Jul 26 04:56:06 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6Q8u5VY007468 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:56:05 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6Q8u5YP007467 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:56:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 04:56:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200407260856.i6Q8u5uA007463@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: To: Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1399 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ null; ] [ 71 lines filtered. ] Hello: I have not received the Mendo_Recce digest after #1399 (July 21). Please resubscribe me. I would appreciate it if you could send me the digests I have missed since then. Karen Sindir From bens Mon Jul 26 07:51:51 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6QBppVY014290 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 07:51:51 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6QBppt3014289 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 07:51:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 07:51:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200407261151.i6QBppsh014285@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Benjamin Allan Smith" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1399 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Karin wrote: > I have not received the Mendo_Recce digest after #1399 (July 21). Please resubscr > resubscribe me. I would appreciate it if you could send me the digests I have > missed since then. The list has been extremely quiet. Your message was the second one since July 21, which caused digest #1400 to go out. 2 messages in 5 days. People must be busy with other things in their life. Out here nothing mutch is new. Building, building and rain. That first big storm 2 or so weeks ago dumped 4+ inches of rain in an hour which caused lots of flooding. A few hours later the waters had receeded. Then it happened again on Thursday. This time I drove past the road closed signs to ford the over flowing rivers that covered the road--twice. Both was no more than a foot deep and I knew were pavement was. And then the little stream that crosses our private road (4 houses) overflowed the culvert so there was an other ford to wade. Land Rover wise the Disco and 101 are running. Dora's progress has been stalled the last month due to construction. And 10 or so Rover folks are showing up at my house on Friday to camp and then go exploring the NJ Pine Barrens on Sat. Ben From bens Mon Jul 26 08:47:18 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6QClIVY016522 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:47:18 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6QClICo016521 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:47:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 08:47:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200407261247.i6QClHXu016517@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue B To: "mendo recce-fourfold.org" Subject: head for sale? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi all, I have a recently rebuilt head for a 1960 series2 that I won't be using. The engine was recently professionally rebuilt and has 140 compression on all four. It has new valve guides with umbrella seals, new valves, hardened seats. And was milled just enough to clean the surface. So it would likely still be 7.0 to 1 compression. (140 is given for 7-1). (I probably will do a CC check on it in a day or so to figure the compression ratio). No idea what it will sell for yet. I might even give it to my son in Redding who drives a series two. Is there any interest? BTW I also have a almost new water pump for the S2 also for sale. Bob B From bens Mon Jul 26 10:10:14 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6QEADVY019908 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:10:13 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6QEADrC019907 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:10:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:10:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200407261410.i6QEAD6Q019903@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: tomw To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #1399 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org as far as I can tell there has been no list activity TomW On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 01:56, sfmms@adelphia.net wrote: > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ null; ] > [ 71 lines filtered. ] > > > Hello: > > > I have not received the Mendo_Recce digest after #1399 (July 21). Please resubscribe me. I would appreciate it if you could send me the digests I have missed since then. [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] -- TomW From bens Mon Jul 26 11:39:56 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6QFduVY024344 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:39:56 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6QFdtx6024343 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:39:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:39:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200407261539.i6QFdt8I024339@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: brbonar@value.net To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: quiet list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm busy... Currently in LA headed to SD to move all the stuff out of my parents house that I sold last week. Very few LR's on I-5. Only a few RR's and 2 or 3 Disco's. Work is busy, we're doing our best to spend your hard earned tax dollars on new infrastructure. :-) Stella and Spot are at home wishing we would take them out to play. Bruce From bens Mon Jul 26 15:11:17 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6QJBHVY001812 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:11:17 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6QJBHjW001811 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:11:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:11:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200407261911.i6QJBHGl001807@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Kerner, Rob" To: Subject: Quiet List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well I'll add my 2 cents. Regent finally got back on the road today with a new water pump, and a nice waterpump bolt from Bob B. Thanks Bob. I rewired the Fusible Link on the LWB, and it has held so far. It does get hot when running AC, but so far it hasn't blown. The Morris Minor sits idle waiting for me to redo the front suspension/steering, and all new brakes from stem to stern. The Yamaha XT350 needs valves adjusted, and I don't have time to take the cam out, so I think I'll pay the dealer... The tent trailer is getting prepped for a camping trip the first weekend in August. Just Daddy and the oldest girl(Crystal) and Grampa and Grandma at Eagle Lake with his 19" Potter. Life is waaay too busy. We really need a large Land Rover gathering out here. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a freak summer storm, that cooled it down to the 60's and blew down some trees on 02/21 :) -Rob From bens Mon Jul 26 15:48:23 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6QJmMVY003267 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:48:22 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6QJmMWU003266 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:48:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:48:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200407261948.i6QJmMYR003262@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Eric Johnson" To: Subject: Re: Quiet List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org You just can't beat a good thunder storm. Nature it its finest. >>> Kerner@vegmail.ucdavis.edu 07/26/04 12:11PM >>> Well I'll add my 2 cents. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a freak summer storm, that cooled it down to the 60's and blew down some trees on 02/21 :) -Rob From bens Mon Jul 26 19:39:49 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6QNdnVY012375 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:39:49 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6QNdn8j012374 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:39:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 19:39:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200407262339.i6QNdmis012370@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue B To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Quiet List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi, I've sent a few this morning and haven't seen them back yet. Bob B From bens Mon Jul 26 20:39:00 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6R0d0VY014745 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:39:00 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6R0d01I014744 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:39:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:39:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200407270039.i6R0d0d3014740@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Bob and Sue B To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: head for sale? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi all, I have a recently rebuilt head for a 1960 series2 that I won't be using. The engine was recently professionally rebuilt and has 140 compression on all four. It has new valve guides with umbrella seals, new valves, hardened seats. And was milled just enough to clean the surface. So it would likely still be 7.0 to 1 compression. (140 is given for 7-1). (I probably will do a CC check on it in a day or so to figure the compression ratio). No idea what it will sell for yet. I might even give it to my son in Redding who drives a series two. Is there any interest? BTW I also have a almost new water pump for the S2 also for sale. Bob B From bens Tue Jul 27 12:41:30 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6RGfUVY022993 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:41:30 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6RGfUqb022992 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:41:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:41:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200407271641.i6RGfT6G022988@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: mendo rec list Subject: LR manuals Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just an FYI Word on the street is that Land Rover factory manuals are about to undergo a hefty price increase. This would be a good time to pick up that owners manual, parts book or workshop manual you have been considering. T. J. Wakeman Santa Cruz, California http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman A member of the internet community since 1985. From bens Tue Jul 27 13:29:37 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6RHTbVY024856 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:29:37 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6RHTb0H024855 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:29:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:29:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200407271729.i6RHTbYf024851@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: shukait@mac.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Quiet List Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Good news: The check engine light is still off, the XD is running great. Z and I had a great time at Camp Chawanakee (Boy Scout camp) and we're trying to get ready for the 83 mile Green River rafting trip in Utah. I'll get to see my oldest son Pat while we stay the day and night in Moab. I have a new baby granddaughter that I'll get to see for the first time too. Our Dormobile comes apart after I return from the rafting trip. Bad News: My friend Jay (just bought a 98 RR and who's looking to sell his TR6 and buy a Dormobile) His mom has cancer and it doesn't look good. He's put everything on hold and his selling his house so he can move to San Diego to take care of her. My friend Todd (79 Triumph Spitfire, goes to the shows with me) his dog of 12 years was hit by a car and killed. Todd is pretty down about the whole thing as they were best friends and fishing buddies. Cheers, Keith & Pam Shukait 1997 Land Rover Discovery XD "YLLWJKT" 1967 Land Rover Series IIA NADA 6 Cylinder Dormobile "Indiana" From bens Tue Jul 27 18:58:46 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6RMwjVY005400 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:58:45 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6RMwj3N005399 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:58:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:58:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200407272258.i6RMwjwO005395@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Elam, Gerry \(Corporate\)" To: Subject: RE: LR manuals Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I just put a bunch of extra workbooks, restoration guides and such on ebay..don't worry, I kept a set for myself. :-) If you want one and don't want to bid, drop me a line with an offer and I'll stop the auction and sell it to you directly as long as no one has bid yet. Here are the items and ebay numbers: Land Rover Series I, II & III Service Guide, Porter Ver Item number: 7913227275 Land Rover Series IIA & IIB Instruction Manual Item number: 7913227708 *** Land Rover Series II, IIA & III Workshop Manual Item number: 7913228008 Land Rover Series I, II & III Restoration Manual Item number: 7913228745 Land Rover Series I, II & III Restoration Manual Item number: 7913228885 Land Rover Series I, II & III Workshop Manual Item number: 7913229126 Land Rover Series II & IIA Repair Op. Manual Item number: 7913229449 *** The majority of these are the aftermarket versions so TAW's comments won't apply except to those marked with ***. Cheers, Gerry TAW sezs, "Just an FYI Word on the street is that Land Rover factory manuals are about to undergo a hefty price increase. This would be a good time to pick up that owners manual, parts book or workshop manual you have been considering." From bens Tue Jul 27 19:24:24 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6RNOOVY006368 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:24:24 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6RNOOm6006367 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:24:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:24:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200407272324.i6RNOOvx006363@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: carl kruger To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: series hard top value Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org There is a 88 safari top for pick-up only in Hollywood, CA on the famous auction site. It's at no reserve, $50 start. May be a good barometer of "value". regards, Carl At 02:02 AM 7/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, >I've never asked a "value" question so here goes: >I found a guy in my neighborhood who has a Series >hardtop for sale (don't know what happened to the >truck). The roof is a plain top with headliner and no >significant dents but also no sunshield or alpine >windows. The body sides glass is removed and channels >need replacing. The body sides also have some stress >cracks (repair with pop riveted metal?). What's a [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Jul 27 23:02:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6S32QVY015074 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:02:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6S32QLq015073 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:02:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:02:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200407280302.i6S32PaZ015069@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Rusty Greer To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: LR manuals Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org i have a couple of the disco shop manuals if someone is interested in them. not exactly sure what they are but they are for about an 95 disco. free to whomever wants to get them from los gatos. On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:58:45 -0400, Elam, Gerry (Corporate) wrote: From bens Thu Jul 29 01:15:40 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6T5FdVY016437 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:15:39 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6T5FdJc016436 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:15:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:15:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200407290515.i6T5Fd2m016432@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Daniel E. Smith" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Great Tires for Series Rovers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey All, Well, TireCo has the 7.50 X 16 (or 7.00 X 15) M/S Traction bias tires back in stock...lucky me because I needed 2 more to complete my 4 with 2 spares. I love these tall, narrow, flat side wall things! These look like they were made for Land Rovers, they will give you about 3 years of everyday use, they are quiet and with a 31.80 overall height they fill up the wheel well nicely. Check them out at http://www.tireco.com/Product_Detail.asp?CateID=36&LineID=11&ProductID=190 Your dealer can get them UPS from TireCo in Compton and you should pay about $90 each. The only bad news is that with 42 lbs. of rubber in each there is no real airing down...they look the same at 5 lbs. or 50 lbs. Daniel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Fri Jul 30 11:11:26 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6UFBQVY000818 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:11:26 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6UFBQf9000817 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:11:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:11:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200407301511.i6UFBQqI000813@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: 96 SE Discovery for sale. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This truck belongs to a guy I met in LA. Other than probably needing a tranny, the truck sounds fairly well equipped. Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW 96 SE Discovery - 115K Miles. 5 Discovery I Steel Wheels with Futura Enforcer 235/85/16 MT Tires (70% left on 4 and 99% on spare). TJM front bumper. Rear Detroit Locker with GBR Heavy duty half shaft. K&N Air filter. Rear ladder. Rock Sliders. RoverTym springs (2 inch lift) OME shocks. Relocated steering damper. CB. Two Hella 550. Blackout hood. Off road dings and scratches. Pre-wired for additional lights. For additional information and pictures visit: http://home.earthlink.net/~ccabrera1/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From bens Fri Jul 30 16:06:13 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6UK6DVY012901 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:06:13 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6UK6Dbd012900 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:06:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:06:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200407302006.i6UK6Cot012896@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "Elam, Gerry \(Corporate\)" To: Subject: Pictures from Africa... no LR but there are a few Unimog pictures. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48285&page=1&pp=15 Some of the pictures linked are very, very nice. Thought this might appeal to the travelers here. Cheers, Gerry From bens Fri Jul 30 22:21:44 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6V2LiVY027604 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:21:44 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6V2Li25027603 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:21:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 22:21:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200407310221.i6V2Liwj027599@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Crocuta To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Info needed..not LR Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello all, Does anyone have any info on the previously mentioned armor/tank/etc museum that was somewhere in the bay? Please email me off list. crocuta@earthlink.net Thanks in advance! -Marshall From bens Sat Jul 31 14:27:19 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6VIRJVY001719 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:27:19 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i6VIRJ9j001718 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:27:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:27:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200407311827.i6VIRIXa001714@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: Taylor Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Info needed..not LR Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Marshall- I know about that museum, its a private collection open certain hours and is an amazing place on all accounts I have heard. Ill find the link to info about it and send it to you if someone hasn't already. Taylor Pipes --- Crocuta wrote: > > > Hello all, > Does anyone have any info on the previously > mentioned armor/tank/etc museum > that was somewhere in the bay? Please email me off > list. crocuta@earthlink.net > Thanks in advance! > -Marshall [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Jul 31 21:31:57 2004 Received: from coriana6.fourfold.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by coriana6.b5.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i711VvVY018115 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:31:57 -0400 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by coriana6.fourfold.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i711VvYp018114 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:31:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: majordomo set sender to owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org using -f Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:31:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200408010131.i711Vvov018110@coriana6.fourfold.org> X-Authentication-Warning: coriana6.b5.fourfold.org: mailnull set sender to mailfilter using -f From: "John Shelton" To: , Subject: RE: 96 SE Discovery for sale. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That's funny Joe, if you read the guys website he say's his reason for selling his Discovery is that he wants to buy a Series vehicle. I guess what's funny about that is that if you ask a Series seller why he is selling his rig he might say because he's tired of wrenching on it! I know because I just spent the entire day replacing all the brake hydraulics on Cletus --aptly named I might add-- (This is the half purple South African RHD 88 that use to belong to Jimmy Patrick) and at the end of the day I can barely stand up straight, have grease everywhere, and am nowhere close to having all the brakes work properly. In fact... I might have actually whispered to my self at the end of the day... why, I should trade this thing up to a nice Discovery! John Shelton Encinitas, CA (Ex-Los Gatos Baggarly mechanic) 1965 IIA SW 88 1972 III 88 'Cletus' >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:11:26 -0400 >From: joe mulqueen >Subject: 96 SE Discovery for sale. > >This truck belongs to a guy I met in LA. Other than >probably needing a tranny, the truck sounds fairly >well equipped. [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ]