From bens Wed Aug 1 00:36:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f714anT15066 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:36:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:36:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200108010436.f714amI15062@minbar.fourfold.org> From: KC To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: PA Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tonight I saw a D110 (#18) in front of Blockbuster on Alma in Palo Alto. Nice SG bumper, winch, and sliders. Also a red SIII soft top. Both very nice looking vehicles. Anyone here? KC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Aug 1 00:26:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f714QaL15032 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:26:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:26:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200108010426.f714QZ515028@minbar.fourfold.org> From: BSharp4601@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #500 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In a message dated 7/31/2001 7:27:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time, owner-mendo_recce-digest@fourfold.org writes: > > This is old, so not sure if it's still valid... > > Rover's West Eight Parts > 4060 Michigan [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] They've moved to: 1815 E. 19 St. (building in the rear) 520.670.9377 They're not set up for walk-in retail. They're actually a mail order / trade supplier. It's best to call first. Bob Sharp Tucson, AZ The slumbering herd on the Rover Ranch: 52 Series I 80" 53 Series I 80" 60 Series II 88" 63 Series IIa 88" 71 Series IIa 109" 96 Discovery Series I "Why is it that every project you complete on a Land Rover results in knowledge and skills you hope you never need to use again?" From bens Wed Aug 1 00:30:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f714Unj15054 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:30:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:30:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200108010430.f714UlF15050@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Excellent Sightings in SF Financial District today Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >White Defender 110 on Howard heading west past Spear around 2 PM. That was me, I was out running some tasks near where I work at exactly that time. The D110 is #165/500, currently unnamed, and most certainly a member of NCRC! ;-) I also saw the Mini! I wasn't going to mention, but I saw a ton of Rovers in the Marina yesterday, a red D90, a white hard top SW D90 that I've seen in front of a specific house on many occasions and a white classic Range Rover with matching white ARB bumper and winch. >P.S. in addition to my blue County Station Wagon Defender-90 at Spear and >Folsom, there is a green special edition Defender-90 hardtop owned by >someone who parks at the Gap parking lot under the Bay Bridge and a red >soft top often parked around the intersection of Spear and Harrison. We work very close!! I work at 7th and Harrison. I've seen the red soft top D90 many times, and a blue soft top D90 parks in front of where I work all the time. Posted about it on the list before. Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Wed Aug 1 01:40:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f715elu15330 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:40:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:40:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200108010540.f715ekk15326@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #500 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Are you serious!?!?! I was on 14th St. last Tuesday and Wednesday! Can't remember the name of the place, but it was a few blocks off Kino: I recall the address being VERY close. This is close to where the Travelalls are located - and I forgot to mention the MGA Coupe I spotted nearby.... Charles On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:26:35 -0400 BSharp4601@aol.com writes: > > In a message dated 7/31/2001 7:27:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > owner-mendo_recce-digest@fourfold.org writes: > > > [ 28 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Wed Aug 1 01:57:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f715vme15350 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:57:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:57:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200108010557.f715vmi15346@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland" To: Subject: RE: PA Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That'd be me (the 110)! Actually the winch is currently missing - the motor has seized... Shannon > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org]On Behalf Of KC > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:37 PM > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 1 02:15:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f716Fni15377 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:15:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:15:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200108010615.f716Fno15373@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland" To: Subject: RE: PA Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That'd be me (the 110)! Actually the winch is currently missing - the motor has seized... Shannon > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org]On Behalf Of KC > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:37 PM > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 1 02:16:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f716G6E15389 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:16:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:16:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108010616.f716G6c15385@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland" To: Subject: RE: PA Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org That'd be me (the 110)! Actually the winch is currently missing - the motor has seized... Shannon > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org]On Behalf Of KC > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:37 PM > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 1 02:26:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f716QaJ15418 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:26:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:26:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200108010626.f716QaO15414@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland" To: Subject: RE: PA Sightings (Oops!) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry about all the postings - my outlook seems to have decided that it never had been able to send the mail so it kept trying and trying... Maybe I've been infected with the new Red Rover worm? Shannon > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org]On Behalf Of Shannon Holland > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 11:16 PM > To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 19 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 1 10:37:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71EbGs16171 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:37:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:37:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011437.f71EbFF16167@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE:Tie downs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....I've got to ask - how could a tie down be flush, unless it was planned into the body stampings?...." You're right, making them go flush does involve cutting the body. I also have a little "stepper" tool that will put a stepped lip on a sheet metal edge, about 1/2" wide. I thought I could cut a hole, use the stepper, and end up with a place to mount a tiedown that would lay flush with the floor when not in use. You also need a pretty big backing plate to keep the load from deforming the aluminum bodywork of the Landie, if you mount them in the floor or sides of the tub. One thing I DO like about the example you gave is the ability of the ring to swivel. I think that's key to minimize bending loads on things. But with the tiedowns, I think simpler is better. Imagine a simple dish of steel, with a bar across it. The dish is big enough to allow a regular ANCRA strap hook to pass underneath the bar. The hook is free to form any angle it wants with the bar. And when not in use the whole thing is flush with the floor. Nothing to break, lose, or snag. The ideal design might also incorporate a tethered plastic cap to keep the dish from collecting....crap...when not in use. I'd mount the whole thing from underneath after making a hole the size of the dish, and use flat-head screws to secure it through the floor to the backing plate...heck, the thing could be it's own backing plate if it was large enough, since it mounts from the back side. I'd expect something like this already exists from boating supply places. I'd say check West Marine, but lots of the boat stuff they carry along these lines is a little on the weak side for off-road use. I'll keep looking..... -Dave G. PS: "....I've got the Defender NATO tie down loops....." Is there a picture up? I'd like to see those. From bens Wed Aug 1 11:50:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71FoKg16393 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:50:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:50:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011550.f71FoKB16389@minbar.fourfold.org> From: KC To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: PA Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well hello. Your 110 is in very nice shape. Real clean and nearly new looking. I looked into Blcokbuster through the windows, but did not see any familar faces nor LR clothing; I was on rollerblades. KC --- Shannon Holland wrote: > > That'd be me (the 110)! Actually the winch is currently missing - the > motor > has seized... > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Aug 1 12:28:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71GSmg16506 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:28:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:28:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011628.f71GSmG16502@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Grey market RR F/S Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey all! No connection with this vehicle other than it is here in my hometown. An '84 or '86 (I think) 4 door RR is for sale for $2000 obo. If I could swing it it would be the start of a Hybrid project, alas I can not. If anyone is coming out to Ouray for the Nat'l event, it could be worth an hour drive south for a look-see here in Durango. BTW, who all is going to Ouray and what will you be driving? Me, an '88 silver RR with CO plate FDI 1767 From bens Wed Aug 1 12:36:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71Ga2m16529 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:36:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:36:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011636.f71Ga2316525@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Ed Sanman To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Tie downs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave - I'll take a shot of my tie downs and e-mail it tomorrow. Like I said, they're not all that cool, it's just that no one around here seems to have seen them before. They use hardware that is formed to mount specifically on the reinforcing rails that back the sides of the rear box. I didn't take any pics (but I'll check w/ Mike Slade to see if he did) of Mike Smith's tie downs he made for his 90. He brought his truck out to the Twist Off '01, and I really liked his tie downs. I'll try to describe. Along the edge, where the side of the rear wheel well meets the top, Mike cut out a prox. 3" X 3" piece from both the top and side. Then he formed a piece of sheetmetal to create a box below this cutout and riveted it in place with a prox. 1/4" rod running lengthwise along the wheelwell edge. It was extremely stout, and flush. If Mike Slade doesn't have a pic, I could draw it up. Hopefully, you can make sense of my description. Ed Dave G. wrote: "....I've got the Defender NATO tie down loops....." Is there a picture up? I'd like to see those. From bens Wed Aug 1 12:51:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71GptP16572 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:51:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:51:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011651.f71Gpt216568@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Grey market RR F/S Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Forgive me for my not knowing or being aware, but where exactly is Ouray? >BTW, who all is going to Ouray and what will you be driving? Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Wed Aug 1 12:57:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71Gvp116591 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:57:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 12:57:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011657.f71GvoD16587@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Tie downs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...Hopefully, you can make sense of my description...." Absolutely. I think there was something like that pictured in the Vehicle Dependent Expedition Guide. What I was describing was that principle applied to a flat surface. I had forgotten about what a nice place that wheel well edge would be to have the tie-down anchors. I'm planning to Herculine the tub of my 109 one of these days. If I do that, I wouldn't even have to be too awful careful about getting the tie-downs in, since the Herculiner will hide a world of hurt when the coating is applied over all (probably not the actual tie down bar). I thought three "levels" of anchor points would be nice. One set on the floor, one set in the wheel well corners like Mike Smith's, and one set just under the tub rails. I think each set would be a little different design. The tub rail ones could be just D-rings since they would hang down and not be in the way when not in use. I like Mike's idea for the wheel wells (probably one at front, middle, and back of wheel well length). And I thought it would be neat to have a recessed cleat rail running down the center of the tub floor for the floor level anchor point. I haven't found a cleat rail I really like though, so the floor points might be just 3 or 4 of the dished version of Mike's anchor points running in a line down the center of the floor. Just so much dreamin' for now though. :^) -Dave G. From bens Wed Aug 1 13:03:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71H3CS16611 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:03:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:03:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011703.f71H3Cn16607@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Grey market RR F/S Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org There is an Ouray in Colorado, just across the Imogene Pass from Telluride. Someone told me the proper way to pronounce it once, but I can't remember. Something like "Or-eee", I think. On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Jason Pipes wrote: > > > Forgive me for my not knowing or being aware, but where exactly is Ouray? > > >BTW, who all is going to Ouray and what will you be driving? [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 1 13:05:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71H5gm16630 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:05:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:05:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011705.f71H5gv16626@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Tie downs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 34 lines filtered. ] There was and I believe that someone contacted Tom Shepherd who replied that they were custom tiedowns if I remember correctly. From bens Wed Aug 1 13:07:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71H75p16658 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:07:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:07:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011707.f71H74n16654@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....BTW, who all is going to Ouray and what will you be driving?...." Seventy-some vehicles and a hundred and some folks, by last count. But alas, I won't be among them. I would be really porking some people here at work if I bailed out Thursday and Friday. But the First Mountain Division Not-a-Club will be well represented by Jim Hall's Elephant Chaser Limestone 88" 2A, Ralph Bradt's limestone 88" late 2A, Mitch Stockdale's Red Dinosaur Series 2 88", Bill Rice's marine blue 109" 5-door 2A "Mrs. Merdle", and Matt Turowski's green 109" 5-door 2A "The Marlin Perkins-mobile" with custom built Hummer-style front brush guard. Keep an eye out for them and say hi. I'm working on these guys to do the Mojave Road for new years this year. Maybe we could pick you up on the way, Tom! -Dave G. From bens Wed Aug 1 13:11:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71HBDW16699 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:11:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:11:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011711.f71HBDb16695@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org < I'm working on these guys to do the Mojave Road for new years this year. > That would be great!!!!! Cheers, Gerry From bens Wed Aug 1 13:13:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71HDr716718 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:13:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:13:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011713.f71HDrF16714@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Grey market RR F/S Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....Something like "Or-eee", I think....." Interesting.....I've only heard "YOU-ray". But my buddy Ralph laid an intriguing bit of info on me last night that sounds right up my alley. I guess there's a 4wd road out of the town of Creed that's a pretty long drive (half a day to get in), and terminates in a 1 mile hike to an area called something like Wheeler Geological Area, or something like that. Supposed to be lots of neat volcanic formations and erosion effects. I don't think I'll have time to do it before it snows....Time to get a set of chains for the G-wagen, and break out the Wiggy's cold weather sleeping gear! I haven't had an excuse to winter-camp in awhile. :^) -Dave G. From bens Wed Aug 1 13:09:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71H9Kf16676 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:09:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:09:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011709.f71H9Kn16672@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Randy H. Katz" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: P A L O A L T O B R I T I S H C A R M E E T 2001 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I know it is over a month away, but I am very excited about attending this event. Are there any NCRC plans to convoy to Palo Alto or to participate in the Saturday brunch run? I will run the D-90 on Sunday, with my Border Terrier as my co-pilot, but I might take my Jag XK8 on the Saturday ride to the coast. Though, frankly, I'd prefer to hang the LR crowd. Randy From bens Wed Aug 1 13:23:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71HNGX16750 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:23:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:23:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011723.f71HNFM16746@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...That would be great!!!!!..." I thought so too. I know Jim is up for it, he almost went last year. This year Cheryl and Wyatt and I get to spend Christmas at home. No traveling. So I think I'll be able to get away for the New Year. I just hated the thought of flying in from relatives and then hopping in the truck right away. This year seems like it might be a prime opportunity. Heck, if I go through with this deal to put Cheryl an a '92 Range Rover I'm looking at when the lease on her Subaru runs out in October, maybe she and Wyatt will follow along in the plushie! -Dave From bens Wed Aug 1 13:30:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71HUNk16776 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:30:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:30:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011730.f71HUNr16772@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: RE: tie down loops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This place has some items I like! Unfortunately, I don't think I want to cut large holes to utilize the flush mounts. I was thinking about putting the surface mounts in the corners on top of the wheel wells. How does that sound? And regardless of the area, I'll be doubling-up the back side of the aluminum panel. http://www.snappinturtle.com/products2.htm Joe M, SIIA 109 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:33:30 -0400 From: "Gomes, David" Subject: RE: tie down loops "...www.4by4connection.com/securit.html..." Pretty hi-tech, no doubt. But not flush mounting....parts to lose.....Notmy fave. Wish I had the be-all end-all solution to this one in the bag, buthaven't seen it yet.... :^( - -Dave G. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Aug 1 13:33:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71HXF016797 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:33:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:33:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011733.f71HXF616793@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: P A L O A L T O B R I T I S H C A R M E E T 2001 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >I know it is over a month away, but I am very excited about attending this >event. I am excited too! I went to the Chico meet a few weeks back and it was a blast, although there were only 6 Rovers present and it was 200+ miles away. It was my first meet though, and I was exicted to attend. I also fell in love with the Jaguar e-type which I've determined will be the next car I'll get someday above and beyond the Rovers in my life. Although I don't think I'd drive 200+ miles to attend a meet with questionable Rover presence again, the Palo Alto meet sounds huge and I'm sure there will be lots more Rovers - and it's closer! >Are there any NCRC plans to convoy to Palo Alto or to participate in the >Saturday brunch run? Petra and I will be driving down from SF, and would be happy to drive with anyone else. Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Wed Aug 1 13:45:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71Hjg016843 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:45:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:45:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011745.f71Hjfh16839@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Tie downs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 1:05 PM -0400 8/1/01, Elam, Gerry (CORP) wrote: >There was and I believe that someone contacted Tom Shepherd who replied that >they were custom tiedowns if I remember correctly. Yup, Clinton Coates did contact him and has been pursuing the issue. You can email Clinton at: CCoates@golder.com I like the idea of the those tie-downs cut into the corner of the wheel well, but they would be in exactly the wrong location for most of what I pack. Unless you're only hauling stuff between the wheel wells, how do these help? I want 'em in the floor of the box and up the sides. Even a couple on the ceiling would be helpful but I can't imagine how that could be done without screwing it up visually. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "It's not on any map - true places never are." -- Mark Twain From bens Wed Aug 1 13:54:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71HsgU16895 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:54:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:54:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011754.f71Hsg216891@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: tie down loops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....http://www.snappinturtle.com/products2.htm...." Neat link Joe. All kinds of cool stuff to choose from. And the name alone is cool enough to buy them! :^) Some of the flush mount ones in the floor and some of the plain D-rings at the tub capping level would be a nice combo. Not too awful expensive either.....Hmmm.... -Dave G. From bens Wed Aug 1 13:51:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71HpXF16875 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:51:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:51:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011751.f71HpWa16871@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: P A L O A L T O B R I T I S H C A R M E E T 2001 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have some friends from a Jag list that went to Chico. I didn't know they were going until after the fact. If some of you are going to PA, I'll check with those guys and have them look for you. -Dave G. PS - everybody I know with a Jag/LR connection agrees that the LR people are more fun. :^) From bens Wed Aug 1 13:58:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71HwMh16917 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:58:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:58:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011758.f71HwLT16913@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "I thought so too. I know Jim is up for it, he almost went last year. This year Cheryl and Wyatt and I get to spend Christmas at home. No traveling. So I think I'll be able to get away for the New Year." It's ***never*** too early to start planning for the Mojave but I don't recall ever starting this early! Looking at the calendar, this appears to be a great time for a trip. Saturday is the 29th which gives us a couple of options. Normally, we end on Monday and that's the 31st. If we want to start/end a day later, that'll give people Saturday as a travel day, start Sunday and end on Tuesday, Jan. 1. It doesn't matter to me but we need to stick a stake in the sand for planning purposes. What say the list(s)? If there's no consensus, we'll do the normal Sat/Sun/Monday trip but again, it's a Friday drive from Norcal/Bay area. Cheers, Gerry From bens Wed Aug 1 15:01:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71J1Sq17074 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:01:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:01:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011901.f71J1RP17070@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave, as much as I want to push the rangie......My brother still ahsn't come back to Rovers...he just dropped the lease on his grand cherrokee last week and picked up a subaru wrx stationwagon........now that would do what she needs and still have the sportscar feel if needed!!!! Ian was telling me it does 0-60 in 5.3 or so!!!!!! ...and on the dirt roads that the cherrokee was comft at say twenty five he was screaming around going eighty! all for $23,000 or so! Paul (hmmmmm! nevermind! 23000 buys a rangie and a second set of motorcycles for you guys.....dual-sports this time as you are happy with your street rides...) --- "Gomes, David" wrote: > > "...That would be great!!!!!..." > through with this deal to put Cheryl an a '92 Range > Rover I'm looking at > when the lease on her Subaru runs out in October, [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Aug 1 15:21:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71JLF917131 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:21:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:21:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011921.f71JLEA17127@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...a rangie and a second set of motorcycles for you guys..." NOW YOU'RE TALKIN', PAUL! I'd LOVE to have a DP bike. But you know me. No regular old KLX, or whatever. It would have to be an E900 or a TransAlp or something weird like that. :^) The major motivation in this car swap cycle is to get rid of the payment though. I'm afraid to drive a WRX. I think I'd like it. :^) -Dave From bens Wed Aug 1 15:25:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71JPAi17150 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:25:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:25:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011925.f71JPAR17146@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: "mendo rec list" Subject: Re: P A L O A L T O B R I T I S H C A R M E E T 2001 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Are there any NCRC plans to convoy to Palo Alto or to participate in the >Saturday brunch run? I personally plan to attend but I'm undecided about which car. It may depend upon which car I take to Portland the week before. I usually bring the LR but this is both the 25 anniv. PABFM and the featured marque is Triumph. If I had a trailer I would bring both. > >I will run the D-90 on Sunday, with my Border Terrier as my co-pilot, but I >might take my Jag XK8 >on the Saturday ride to the coast. The Sat run is more of a sports car type run. Lots of smooth tarmac windy mountain roads. I take the TR3A on it. > Though, frankly, I'd prefer to hang the LR crowd. You and me both. I much prefer the LR crowd. TeriAnn Near Santa Cruz, California My old car: 1960 Land Rover 109 owned since 1978 My new car: 1961 Triumph TR3A owned since 1986 "Who could ask for anything more" From bens Wed Aug 1 15:41:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71Jfbc17234 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:41:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:41:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011941.f71Jfbd17230@minbar.fourfold.org> From: KC To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: the rally-->WRX Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I test drove a WRX. They are a hoot. The AWD system is biased w/a 50/50 split and locking rear diff. When stepping on it, I could feel each tire pull and push as every tire slightly spun. Throttle response is damn quick, especially for a turbo 4-banger. 227 horses and a very flat torque curve are plenty for a ~3200# car. It also has around 7 inches ground clearance and decent articulation, so, fire roads would be a blast to cruise on. When test driving it in the rain, I could make it slide at high speed--just stay on the gas and steer. Of course, it's a bit small. But as fun driving goes, this car would do well. KC --- andrew robinson wrote: > subaru wrx stationwagon........now that would do what > she needs and still have the sportscar feel if > needed!!!! Ian was telling me it does 0-60 in 5.3 or > so!!!!!! > ...and on the dirt roads that the cherrokee was comft [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Aug 1 15:38:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71JcA917211 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:38:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:38:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200108011938.f71JcA617207@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Gomes, David" wrote: > > "...a rangie and a second > set of motorcycles for you guys..." > > NOW YOU'RE TALKIN', PAUL! YES!!! of course i am bringing a rangie back into my fold as soon as someone buys the quattro from me (or The African......whichever goes first....) and will get another dual-sport again soon.....hopefully...need to become employed first...... > I'd LOVE to have a DP bike. But you know me. No > regular old KLX, or > whatever. It would have to be an E900 or a TransAlp > or something weird like > that. :^) DO NOT TOUCH A TRANSALP!!!!! I have been warned by a few guys they are too big, heavy and underpowered/bad handling.......nevere ridden one, but that is what all have said to me....I ahve never seen one on any of the dual-sport rides i ha ve beeen on since 1994 and ahve seen the big GS bikes and elephants as well. What I want is an old Cagiva 600 Elephant...the origional Lucky-strike replica! I passed on one five years ago and am still kicking myself as it was for $1500 due to damaged front wheel and forks... > The major motivation in this car swap cycle is to > get rid of the payment > though. I'm afraid to drive a WRX. I think I'd > like it. :^) Yes you would! My brother was just smiling as he talked about it...apparently there are not that many out for sale...he said there were two in Alaska and one in Texas when he bought his, and he only had time to drive back from Austin to Park city so he didn't get the fun and pleasure of screaming down the alaskan highway in one this time.....but I am gonna talk to him about a furure road trip i think! ;-) maybe I take teh disco with my dad and he goes along in the wrx and we trade off here and tehre for fun! ;-) paul (so how is the job market in Colarado? am getting frustrated with the silly-con valley.....) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Aug 1 16:54:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71KsuC17396 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:54:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:54:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200108012054.f71KstO17390@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hollister Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom, still planning to go to Hollister this weekend? We might drive down and join you to play around... Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Wed Aug 1 17:20:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71LKMY17517 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:20:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:20:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200108012120.f71LKL817513@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hollister Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > > Tom, still planning to go to Hollister this weekend? We might drive down and > join you to play around... Yep! I think we may arrive a bit before noon on Saturday.... We will certainly have the D90, maybe the series also? The 101 is awaiting the engine rebuild ( I drop the engine off tomorrow maybe ) TomW... I'll post more specifics later if anyone is interested. > > Jason Pipes > jpipes@feldgrau.com > www.feldgrau.com > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Wed Aug 1 17:36:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71Laqo17579 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:36:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:36:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108012136.f71LaqF17575@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....they are too big, heavy and underpowered/bad handling......" That's what they say about my Saber...Hell, that's what they say about ME! Sounds like the perfect bike. :^) I'm with you on the Cagiva bit though. After spending half a day of seat time on Fred's E900, I was really envious. The ultimate urban assault vehicle. Sad part is it sits in his garage now, even though he lives in some of the best DP country around, the desert SW. :^( -Dave G. From bens Wed Aug 1 18:05:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71M5ot17669 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:05:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:05:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200108012205.f71M5nW17665@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: Re: P A L O A L T O B R I T I S H C A R M E E T 2001 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org hey randy: where can i find more information on the event. i have it listed on the ncrc calendar, but don't know anything about the event. in the past i've just gone out to the field to socialize with other lro's. -->jeff on 8/1/01 10:09 AM, Randy H. Katz at randy@EECS.Berkeley.EDU wrote: > > I know it is over a month away, but I am very excited about attending this > event. > > Are there any NCRC plans to convoy to Palo Alto or to participate in the [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 1 18:36:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f71MagB17745 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:36:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:36:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200108012236.f71MafF17741@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Gomes, David" wrote: > > "....they are too big, heavy and underpowered/bad > handling......" > > That's what they say about my Saber...Hell, that's [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] no comment!!!! maybe someone makes a deisel dual-sport bike by now? ;-0 now THAT you would like...huh? ;-) > > I'm with you on the Cagiva bit though. After > spending half a day of seat > time on Fred's E900, I was really envious. The > ultimate urban assault [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] sounds like I need to go buy and give it some use on my trip to see my brother in Park city next month? ;-) or maybe you should fly down there and we go riding...not like the 750ss will be much use on any fire trails! ;-0 My bro was crazy enough to take his old cbr out on those roads in arizona years ago, but I wanna keep it the way it is.....after riding it down roads consisting of baseball to basket-ball sized pebbles the last time I went dirt-biking and rode up there on the Duc, I decided it ws time for another dual-sport bike instead of the two-stroke for dirt and duc for road.......now that husky 610....hmmmmmmm!!!! the problem with the COOL DP bikes is they are all heavy.....at least the husky is light.....or maybe a DR-650 hmmmmm! and I do like the WR-426 or whatever cc it is... nah! gotta stop thinking other than rovers and paying the bills......getting a new source of income to pay for the above too! ;-) Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Wed Aug 1 23:04:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7234qo18766 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:04:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:04:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108020304.f7234qa18762@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Daniel Oppenheim To: laurel.beecher@ieee.org, mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: YOU'RE INVITED! TO OUR HOUSEWARMING PARTY Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 2 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ application/msword; name="Housewarming Invite.doc"; ] [ application/msword; name="DIRECTIONS TO 30 HARRY STREET.doc"; ] [ 817 lines filtered. ] You are most eagerly invited to our Housewarming Party on August 25th. Invitation and directions attached. Please join us!! Cheers, Julia, Daniel and the kids From bens Thu Aug 2 02:34:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f726YCL20077 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 02:34:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 02:34:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200108020634.f726YB220073@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Big Bear sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] Kelly Minnick writes: > It was not me, both our Series trucks are red with a creme hardtop, but it would have been nice to meet you. My husband and I were up there this past weekend and we squeezed in a short drive up in my SIII to Butler's Peak to see the 1926 fire tower. Once there I met one of the Jeep folks who we went with on the Mojave Road trail last year. On the way back, stopped by very briefly at the So. California LR Club's campsite as they were doing trails up there that weekend too, looking for a Rangie owner that lives in my area. No luck finding him, got a cool reception, so I didn't linger. Karen Sindir From bens Thu Aug 2 03:46:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f727kPM20167 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:46:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:46:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108020746.f727kPF20163@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Lou Weinert" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Grey market RR F/S Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >From: "Gomes, David" >Interesting.....I've only heard "YOU-ray". > Stayed there a few times and everyone we met pronounced it that way- though the name comes from an Ute Indian Chief. I'm sure he didn't pronounce it the pale-face way. I have to say that that part of Colorado is beyond beautiful. We did a lot of off-roading (with the 86 Civic as well!) and camping all over there and its just amazing. There is a trail that goes east of Ouray to a town called Marble which has all over the road side- you guessed it, massive chunks of white marble. Ouray also has this wonderful municipal hot spring. Huge olympic size pools of various temperatures and all for a couple bucks. All this talk- I think I'll go pack my bags instead. -Lou Weinert PS What's the earliest age someone has taken their kid off-roading? We have #1 comin' in mid-Oct. and I am jonesing to get out. Am I crazy to think that I'm gonna be able to do/go anywhere for awhile- especially off-road/camping? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Thu Aug 2 03:52:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f727qag20200 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:52:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 03:52:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200108020752.f727qa720196@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Lou Weinert" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: P A L O A L T O B R I T I S H C A R M E E T 2001 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Having been to the PA meet more than a few times I think that the LR folks are definitely the more grounded of the lot, followed in 2nd place by the Mini folks. They seem to have an equal cross-section of disparate, disenfranchised people ;-] -Lou Weinert _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Thu Aug 2 11:20:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72FKqa21177 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:20:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:20:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021520.f72FKpL21173@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, I'm not going to the rally, but a small piece of me...er...of my tool kit is going. I stopped at our regular rendezvous point this morning to see-off the group that was going. The only one that showed up by the alloted time was Bill Rice, and he had the farthest drive to get there! Mrs Merdle was in fine livery, sporting a new custom bikini top over the cab area of the soft-top-converted 5-door. Very stylin', IMHO. Sad news was that on his drive back from MT this weekend, Bill said his right turn signal had started to cause all his headlights and parking lights to flash in unison when applied! He was a little perplexed but we traced the bad ground to a wire in the harness somewhere, and simply unplugging the RH turn signal ground from the harness and touching it to the bonnet prop instead, cured the problem. Bill was fresh out of wire, but as luck would have it, I have my tool kit in the back of the '92 Rangie I'm evaluating. All my clip leads and bullet connectors were hiding or busy elsewhere, but I did dig up a short piece of safety wire and my lineman's pliers. A few judicious loops and twists, and voila! All lights working properly. None of the others had shown up by the time I left at 8:05, but as I went around the corner back onto 285, I saw the Stockdale clan gassing up at an adjacent station. So all seems to be in order. I'm very sad not to be going, but maybe that piece of safety wire will tell me of his adventures next time I see him. :^) -Dave G. From bens Thu Aug 2 11:25:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72FPAx21202 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:25:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:25:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021525.f72FP9U21198@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Daniel Oppenheim To: AGrin@aol.com, Juditte@aol.com, mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: YOU'RE INVITED! TO OUR HOUSEWARMING PARTY Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We have SO much to CELEBRATE!!! We're remodeling 30 Harry St. and we've moved back in! Nate has moved back to San Francisco to live with us and attend high school! We have two September birthdays --Nate's and Tatiana's-- Mackenzie got her Driver's License! (finally!) Julia is running another marathon! Daniel has restored a 1960 Land Rover! (almost?) Meet a surprise octegenarian.... It's the end of summer! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please join us for a "We're-Still-Under-Construction-Housewarming" Costume Party! Come as your favorite tradesperson! contractor, plumber, electrician, architect, painter…. you get the idea….B.Y.O.T.! * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We'll provide good food, good company, and a good time ~~~ August 25th, 2001 ~~~ 2:00 'til.....??? (Directions attached) R.S.V.P to Daniel @ (415) 282-5500 or Julia @ (415) 648-6089 * Bring your own tool... From bens Thu Aug 2 11:32:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72FW1b21228 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:32:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:32:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021532.f72FW0X21224@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Daniel Oppenheim To: AGrin@aol.com, Juditte@aol.com, mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: YOU'RE INVITED! TO OUR HOUSEWARMING PARTY 2 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This time w/ directions !!....... We have SO much to CELEBRATE!!! We're remodeling 30 Harry St. and we've moved back in! Nate has moved back to San Francisco to live with us and attend high school! We have two September birthdays --Nate's and Tatiana's-- Mackenzie got her Driver's License! (finally!) Julia is running another marathon! Daniel has restored a 1960 Land Rover! (almost?) Meet a surprise octegenarian.... It's the end of summer! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please join us for a "We're-Still-Under-Construction-Housewarming" Costume Party! Come as your favorite tradesperson! contractor, plumber, electrician, architect, painter…. you get the idea….B.Y.O.T.! * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We'll provide good food, good company, and a good time ~~~ August 25th, 2001 ~~~ 2:00 'til.....??? (Directions attached) R.S.V.P to Daniel @ (415) 282-5500 or Julia @ (415) 648-6089 * Bring your own tool... DIRECTIONS TO 30 HARRY STREET NOTE: Harry Street is a one block-long set of stairs located in the Fairmount Heights neighborhood of San Francisco, between Beacon and Laidley Streets. (In the Noe Valley-Glen Park area) Our brown, shingled-sided home is located half-way up from Laidley sT., and half-way down the stairs from Beacon Street. It can be approached from either the top or bottom of the staircase. From the bottom, you will experience easier footing, and less stairs (approx. 125) From the top is easier parking, 128 stairs, and a wonderful view. The following directions are all to the BOTTOM of Harry Street. To park at the TOP and walk down: turn left on Laidley when Noe intersects Laidley. Take the 1st right off of laidley, which is Miguel. Proceed on Miguel, veering right at both of the next two intersections. Miguel will become Beacon. Harry Street is marked by a street sign at the end of the long wooden fence on your right. If you proceed to Diamond St. , you've gone too far. >From the East Bay: Bay Bridge to 101 South. Take the Army Street Exit. Exit Army St. West. Proceed straight on Army, approx. 3 miles, until it dead-ends at Noe Street. Turn left. Proceed on Noe until it dead-ends at Laidley Street. (When Noe crosses 30th Street, it becomes a one-way street for the last block.) Harry street starts at the intersection of 30th and Laidley. PARK. Walk up stairs. Our house is on the right. >From the North Bay: Golden Gate Bridge to 19th Ave. exit. You'll be on Park Presidio. Right at Cabrillo, left at 15th, left onto Fulton St. At Stanyan Street, turn right. Straight on Stanyan St.about 1 mile to 17th Street. Turn left. 17th Street curves, and forces you to cross Market Street. You will now be on Eureka Street. Take Eureka St. until it dead-ends at 23rd Street. Turn left three blocks to Noe Street. Turn right. Proceed on Noe until it dead-ends at Laidley Street. (When Noe crosses 30th Street, it becomes a one-way street for the last block.) Harry street starts at the intersection of 30th and Laidley. PARK. Walk up stairs. Our house is on the right. >From the South Bay: Highway 101 North to Army Street. Exit Army St. West. Proceed straight on Army, approx. 3 miles, until it dead-ends at Noe Street. Turn left. Proceed on Noe until it dead-ends at Laidley Street. (When Noe crosses 30th Street, it becomes a one-way street for the last block.) Harry street starts at the intersection of 30th and Laidley. PARK. Walk up stairs. Our house is on the right. or 280 North to San Jose Ave. exit. San Jose turns into Guerrero. Turn left at 30th . Up the hill to Noe St. Turn left at Noe. Harry street starts at the intersection of 30th and Laidley. PARK. Walk up stairs. Our house is on the right. >From San Francisco: Noe Street South. Proceed on Noe until it dead-ends at Laidley Street. (When Noe crosses 30th Street, it becomes a one-way street for the last block.) Harry street starts at the intersection of 30th and Laidley. PARK. Walk up stairs. Our house is on the right. Public Transportation: BART-to the Glen Park Station. 15 minute walk to house. Call for directions or a ride. Bus in SanFrancisco: #24 Divisadero stops at 30th and Noe. Walk up Noe one block to Harry St. From bens Thu Aug 2 11:23:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72FNVP21189 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:23:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:23:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021523.f72FNVH21185@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...someone makes a deisel dual-sport bike by now?...." I bet some of those old Enfields would run on paraffin.... :^) -Dave G. From bens Thu Aug 2 11:41:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72FfDP21244 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:41:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:41:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021541.f72FfCs21240@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm looking at this '92 Rangie (County SWB) and thought I'd ask some of you more experienced folks about a few of the things that are wrong with it. 1 - RADIO - It's asking for the code and the CO doesn't have it. Do I need to pull the radio and get a serial number that matches the VIN for the dealer to get the code? If so, how much of a nightmare is it to pull the radio, and how is it done? (I'll be calling the dealer today on this one) 2 - PARKING BRAKE - Feels like it's not attached to anything. I'll try to adjust it this weekend, but if the cable's broken, can it be replaced with the t-case in the car? There was precious little room around there on my D90 and Disco, I suspect the Rangie is worse... 3 - BLOWER FAN - The "medium" speed isn't working (off, low, and high all work fine). Do these use wound-wire resistors in the air stream like "normal" cars? Any pointers on where to find the resistor pack so I can verify that's the problem? It also needs a cassette for the CD changer, brake pads and rotors, exhaust, swivel pin preload adjust, and a water pump. As "while I'm at it" stuff it would get wheel bearings, upper swivel bushings and thrust washers, new belts, hoses, and idler bearing. I will definitely be negotiating the $7500 price tag after I get the list of parts costs from BP, but the truck is in very nice shape with nearly no rust, and the engine and transmission are very smooth. Cheryl says she'd dig it as her daily driver (drove it last night) once the suspension stuff is fixed. And there's really just something RIGHT about cruising the Colorado byways in a Range Rover.... :^) -Dave G. From bens Thu Aug 2 13:18:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72HIUX21450 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:18:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:18:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021718.f72HITS21446@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Gomes, David wrote: > 2 - PARKING BRAKE - Feels like it's not attached to anything. I'll try to > adjust it this weekend, but if the cable's broken, can it be replaced with > the t-case in the car? There was precious little room around there on my > D90 and Disco, I suspect the Rangie is worse... I have done it, so yes. Your other problems I have never experienced on our 89 RR. From bens Thu Aug 2 14:03:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72I3iL21619 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:03:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 14:03:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021803.f72I3io21615@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: the rally Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- "Gomes, David" wrote: > > "...someone makes a deisel dual-sport bike by now?...." > > I bet some of those old Enfields would run on paraffin.... :^) Probably!!!! would be fun to come up with one..... Paul > -Dave G. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Thu Aug 2 13:46:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72HkxM21537 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:46:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:46:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021746.f72Hkxx21533@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...I have done it, so yes...." Thanks James! That's a load off my mind. :^) -Dave From bens Thu Aug 2 15:46:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72JkWu21906 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:46:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:46:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021946.f72JkWZ21902@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Clarke Williams To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave, I have a used cable in my retired Rangie, if you need it. Clarke Williams (541) 266-0300 At 01:46 PM 02-08-01 -0400, you wrote: > >"...I have done it, so yes...." > >Thanks James! >That's a load off my mind. :^) [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 2 15:53:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72JrnD21955 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:53:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:53:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200108021953.f72Jrn821951@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Shannon Holland To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: PA Sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks! It's been around more than it looks - the previous owner used it to haul all his video equipment around (he is a tv news photographer) for a few years. Mostly the interior took a bit of a beating. No offroad use, but I'm fixing that! I was hiding in an office behind blockbuster meeting with a customer so I was well hidden! Shannon On Wednesday, August 1, 2001, at 08:50 AM, KC wrote: From bens Thu Aug 2 17:43:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72LhH222432 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:43:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:43:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200108022143.f72LhGG22428@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Clark & Donna Bowen" To: Subject: 1989 Range Rover for sale - $2,000 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I bought a 1989 RR from a woman who had owned it for the past 8 years and put 100,000 miles on it (now has 165,000). She was meticulous about getting things fixed and it is in excellent shape inside and out. Runs great, but does sound like it will be needing a pinion bearing. The motor has been overheating on 85+ degree days and losing coolant. Mechanic diagnosed a cracked sleeve (don't think 3.9s are sleeved) or blown head gasket. I bought it thinking that maybe it was a radiator or something simple, but Im beginning to believe the mechanic is right and it is beyond my mechanical skills. Jaguar Heaven in Stockton has a 1992 RR 3.9 motor with 68,000 miles for $1,500 including the aircon compressor (this one has a leak). Vehicle has new/used T-case, trans rebuilt about 80,000 miles ago, good tires, brand new genuine RR shocks, new heater core. I'm sending this out to the list and if there are no takers I'll post it to LRX next week. Clark Bowen 541-665-2164 From bens Thu Aug 2 17:52:29 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72LqT022466 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:52:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:52:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200108022152.f72LqSQ22462@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org If it's the stock radio, they can do it by the VIN alone... Brake cable can be done in place Blower uses standard resistor pack mounted to the heater/cooling unit. Sounds more like a dirty switch position/contact, though. Have Fun! Kelly Minnick > > > > I'm looking at this '92 Rangie (County SWB) and thought I'd ask > some of you [ 35 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 2 17:56:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72LuAx22494 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:56:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:56:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200108022156.f72Lu9Z22490@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: 1989 Range Rover for sale - $2,000 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Head gasket is most certainly gone. The block is sleeved (aluminum block, cast iron sleeves). Are you getting water in the oil? If not, it's probably just the heads. Good luck selling. Later, Kelly Minnick > > > > I bought a 1989 RR from a woman who had owned it for the past 8 years and > put 100,000 miles on it (now has 165,000). She was meticulous [ 20 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 2 18:04:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72M4Zl22530 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:04:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:04:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200108022204.f72M4YR22526@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Kelly. Service guy at LR Flatirons gave me a better understanding of how that fan speed control works. I'll have a look at it tonight. Radio was a bust. The VIN yielded no radio code. Have to pull the radio. :^( Maybe I need to run a CARFAX on this sucker.....current owner has only had it a year. Who knows what it was up to before then. It needs about a grand worth of parts and a couple weekends work to be up to snuff. If I can get it for 7, I might go for it. -Dave G. From bens Thu Aug 2 18:08:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72M8QL22546 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:08:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:08:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108022208.f72M8Pp22542@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: (more) Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Did someone here do the R134 conversion on a Rangie? This one I'm looking at has the AC not getting cold, though the compressor is running. I'm wondering what's the parts cost to do what I can myself in making this conversion before getting the evac & charge done by a pro. -Dave G. From bens Thu Aug 2 18:14:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72MEX722617 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:14:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:14:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200108022214.f72MEXw22613@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: (more) Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James Howard... Later, Kelly Minnick > > > > Did someone here do the R134 conversion on a Rangie? This one I'm looking > at has the AC not getting cold, though the compressor is running. I'm [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 2 18:18:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72MIfl22642 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:18:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:18:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108022218.f72MIer22638@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Clark & Donna Bowen" To: Subject: 1992 RR radio code Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Dave.......... The registered owner can call a dealer and give them the VIN and they will give him/her the code. Clark Bowen From bens Thu Aug 2 18:27:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f72MR5m22672 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:27:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:27:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200108022227.f72MR4T22668@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: (more) Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yes, and I sort of wrote up what I did at: http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~jdh6/RetrofitAC.html On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Kelly Minnick wrote: > > James Howard... Later, > > Kelly Minnick > [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 3 02:51:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f736poT24357 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 02:51:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 02:51:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200108030651.f736po824353@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Re: 1989 Range Rover for sale - $2,000 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Where is it located? What colour ? Options ? Later Aidan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clark & Donna Bowen" To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: 1989 Range Rover for sale - $2,000 > > I bought a 1989 RR from a woman who had owned it for the past 8 years and > put 100,000 miles on it (now has 165,000). She was meticulous about getting > things fixed and it is in excellent shape inside and out. Runs great, but > does sound like it will be needing a pinion bearing. The motor has been > overheating on 85+ degree days and losing coolant. Mechanic diagnosed a > cracked sleeve (don't think 3.9s are sleeved) or blown head gasket. I bought > it thinking that maybe it was a radiator or something simple, but Im > beginning to believe the mechanic is right and it is beyond my mechanical > skills. Jaguar Heaven in Stockton has a 1992 RR 3.9 motor with 68,000 miles > for $1,500 including the aircon compressor (this one has a leak). Vehicle > has new/used T-case, trans rebuilt about 80,000 miles ago, good tires, brand > new genuine RR shocks, new heater core. I'm sending this out to the list and > if there are no takers I'll post it to LRX next week. > > Clark Bowen 541-665-2164 > > From bens Fri Aug 3 04:30:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f738UJg24556 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:30:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:30:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200108030830.f738UJi24552@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: PA meet brunch run Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 12 lines filtered. ] Are there any NCRC plans to convoy to Palo Alto or to participate in the Saturday brunch run? We had done the brunch run as the only Land Rover a couple of years ago when we were attending the PA meet and were considering coming to the PA meet again this year in our SIIa. It would be nice to be able to go on the run with other Land Rovers. Karen Sindir From bens Fri Aug 3 10:09:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f73E9be24921 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:09:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:09:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200108031409.f73E9ab24915@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: (more) Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks much for the write-up, James. One minor correction in this sentence. You know what it is.... "...Close valve for 5 minutes, and see if vacuum holds. If not, charge the system. If so, you have a leak. ..." I don't think I need to do the retrofit yet on this system. But it's great to know you were able to do it so inexpensively. I'm sure the time will come. -Dave G. From bens Fri Aug 3 13:35:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f73HZ1R25480 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:35:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:35:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108031735.f73HZ1025476@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: (more) Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks. I am busy trying to finish my master's project, so I am not planning to do much to the web site until then. The most expensive part (for me) was the two tools I needed - gauges and a vacuum pump. However, I spent over $600 at two different shops trying to get the AC fixed before I gave up and did it myself. It cost me less than that, even with the pump and gauges. On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Gomes, David wrote: > > Thanks much for the write-up, James. One minor correction in this sentence. > You know what it is.... > > "...Close valve for 5 minutes, and see if vacuum holds. If not, charge the [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 3 14:40:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f73IeqA25634 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:40:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:40:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108031840.f73Ieqf25630@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Send me the vin and I'll run it through carfax for ya if my subscription is still good ( I think it has a week or two left ) TomW > > Thanks Kelly. > > Service guy at LR Flatirons gave me a better understanding of how that fan > speed control works. I'll have a look at it tonight. [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Fri Aug 3 15:04:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f73J4gl25732 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:04:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:04:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108031904.f73J4gn25728@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: (more) Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have a vacuum pump. Part of an old army field dentistry outfit, I think. It's a neat old thing, but still pulls down a mighty good vacuum given a little time, like you said. A set of gages would be a good investment though, if the car is to have self-serviceable refrigerant in it. But for now, I'll just plug along like it is. I have to check the temp differential, but I think it's okay, just a little slow to cool off all the ductwork. Thanks again! -Dave G. From bens Fri Aug 3 15:43:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f73Jhfd25826 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 15:43:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108031943.f73Jhej25822@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: 7.50-16 on 7" rims Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, Is there anyone with any opinion on putting a 7.50-16 on a 7" rim? I've just ordered and paid for a set of Cooper CTDs (which are being phased out by Cooper, BTW). I expect them tuesday and was wondering if I should put them on my stock RR alloys (6.5") or on the Disco steels (7") that I have (I'm inclined to put them on the steel rims). Answers direct would be appreciated as I'm on digest and would like to formulate an idea today if possible. TIA!! Tom 88 RR Durango PS Jason, Most locals will say Ouray as You-ray, most times you'll hear Oooo-ray from tourons. From bens Fri Aug 3 16:52:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f73Kqho25987 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:52:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 16:52:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108032052.f73KqgI25983@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Randy H. Katz" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: PA Brunch Run Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Let's make sure to organize this early next month. I would be happy to convoy down from SF both days. Randy Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 04:30:19 -0400 From: SFmms@aol.com Subject: Re: PA meet brunch run [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 12 lines filtered. ] Are there any NCRC plans to convoy to Palo Alto or to participate in the Saturday brunch run? We had done the brunch run as the only Land Rover a couple of years ago when we were attending the PA meet and were considering coming to the PA meet again this year in our SIIa. It would be nice to be able to go on the run with other Land Rovers. Karen Sindir From bens Fri Aug 3 17:09:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f73L9N326015 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:09:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:09:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200108032109.f73L9Md26011@minbar.fourfold.org> From: StevHutch@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Diesel bikes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 19 lines filtered. ] Kawasaki is making one for the military supposedly...... http://www.janes.com/regional_news/americas/news/idr/idr010601_1_n.shtml Video http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/video/m1030m1_diesel_motorbike.shtml * The video is neat, and seems to be at some european or english military proving ground location. > "...someone makes a deisel dual-sport bike by now?...." > > I bet some of those old Enfields would run on paraffin.... :^) > > From bens Fri Aug 3 20:39:29 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f740dTD26341 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:39:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 20:39:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040039.f740dSN26337@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Daniel Oppenheim To: wmseiden@earthlink.net, "Eleanor H. Woenne" Subject: DIABETES MARATHON SPONSORSHIP Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org HEY, JULIA NEEDS YOUR HELP! Dear Family, Friends and Colleagues: On October 29, 2001, I will be running the Dublin Marathon (all 26.2 miles of it!) I have joined Team Diabetes, the endurance training program sponsored by the American Diabetes Association ("ADA"), to raise money and awareness for diabetes research and education. Why Diabetes, you ask? In March 1999, my daughter, Tatiana, was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes, at the age of 12. Since her diagnosis two years ago, Tatiana has given herself at least 2,718 shots of insulin, and has pricked her fingers no less than 3,406 times in order to test her blood sugar levels. My mother is a Type II Diabetic, who currently controls her Diabetes with proper diet, exercise and medication, but is still at risk for complications. =20 This personal association and the great support of Team Diabetes (including an awesome trainer) keeps me motivated on those long, early morning runs! Diabetes is a chronic and relentless disease that Tatiana and the people close to her will live with every minute of her life, as she continually balances her blood sugar through diet, exercise and insulin injections.=20 Chances are, you also know someone with Diabetes. =20 Did you also know . . . ? =A7 Diabetes affects more Americans, kills more Americans, and costs America more money than AIDS and breast cancer combined.=20 =A7 Left untreated or undiagnosed, Diabetes may cause many life-threatening complications including kidney disease, heart disease, stroke and blindness.=20 =A7 Since the discovery of insulin, those diagnosed with Diabetes can "manage" their disease to avoid these fatal complications.=20 =A7 However, currently, there is no cure for Diabetes. The ADA is dedicated to helping to find a cure, as well as educating people about the disease so they can get proper treatment. I have pledged to raise $4,500 to support the work of the ADA and their continued efforts to battle Diabetes. Over 80% of all funds raised in this effort will go directly to research and professional and public Diabetes education. As I endure the challenges of this marathon, you and Tatiana and Mom will be with me in spirit. Your partnership will inspire me to fly across that finish line (that now seems so far away!) Please help support me this very deserving cause by sponsoring my run. (Note, this is NOT a per-mile contribution, it's an event contribution.) Consider the following pledge amounts: $15 - Plus lots of friendship and Ben Gay!=20 $26.20 - A buck a mile! That's not bad! $33.33 - A fun number, no? $40 - Oh, heck, $33.33 is too hard to reconcile in my checkbook=85 $50 - $4,500 is an outrageous goal- I'll help!=20 $100 - Dublin, Ireland?? $200 - We know you can do it!!! $_____ - Be creative, make up your own (not to exceed $10,000!) Just MAIL your generous contribution (made out to the American Diabetes Association) to me at the address below by September 15. I will send you a receipt for tax purposes. Of course, contributions of any amount are appreciated and fully tax deductible. Whatever you can contribute matters . . . it all adds up to hope for Tatiana, my mom, and the millions of others who are living with Diabetes every day.=20 I sincerely appreciate your support! Best Regards, Julia Ten Eyck 30 Harry Street San Francisco, CA 94131 (415) 648-6089 e-mail: julia@mgmtconsult.com From bens Fri Aug 3 21:29:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f741TCW26390 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:29:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:29:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040129.f741TCp26386@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 7.50-16 on 7" rims Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Interesting about the CTD being phased out -- I'll have to try something else! Cheers John Thomas Joyner wrote: > All, > > Is there anyone with any opinion on putting a 7.50-16 on a 7" rim? I've just > ordered and paid for a set of Cooper CTDs (which are being phased out by > Cooper, BTW). I expect them tuesday and was wondering if I should put them [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 3 23:26:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f743Q4I26498 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:26:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:26:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040326.f743Q3426492@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: PA meet brunch run Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Karen and All, Pam and I will be there for both days and plan on the Saturday brunch ride. Not much of a convoy from Cupertino, but if folks are meeting some where for coffee and the ride in, We'd drive out of our way. Keith and Pam 69 Series IIa 109 ExMoD Mystery Land Rover (Deal in the works) From bens Sat Aug 4 01:33:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f745XJr27676 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:33:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:33:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040533.f745XIp27672@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: someone has an ambulanz 4sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I noted this is in the Sac area...... Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA station wagon http://catalog.roversnorth.com/wwwboard/w3bbserframe.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Aug 4 01:36:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f745amZ27692 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:36:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:36:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040536.f745amf27688@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: "Rover" license plate found Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org For those interested: While recently in San Francisco, I took a digipic of a yellow, early '70s rover 3500 sedan with license plate - "ROVER" Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Aug 4 02:21:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f746LWQ27772 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 02:21:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 02:21:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040621.f746LWu27768@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Diesel bikes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've heard of a diesel powered motorcycle that is or was made in India. Supposedly will go hundreds of miles on a gallon but that is its only virtue. Have heard its loud, hot, heavy and terribly underpowered. Sort of like the Series Rover of motorcycles. Aloha Peter O. Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: StevHutch@aol.com >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Diesel bikes >Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:09:22 -0400 [ 25 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Sat Aug 4 01:56:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f745uIs27738 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:56:18 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 01:56:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040556.f745uH927734@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: 4x4 tips & Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Not sure if anyone has seen these links..... JoeM http://www.4x4now.com/4wht.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Aug 4 03:28:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f747Sb427877 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:28:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:28:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040728.f747Sar27873@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Diesel bikes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org So you on the island yet? Kevin is coming over at 9am. We will be working on roll cage and my running problems until about 4. Need to get cleaned up for a party at D's work. Will be in the garage all day, so just stop by if we don't answer the phone. Pete > > I've heard of a diesel powered motorcycle that is or was made in India. > Supposedly will go hundreds of miles on a gallon but that is its only > virtue. Have heard its loud, hot, heavy and terribly underpowered. Sort of > like the Series Rover of motorcycles. > > Aloha > Peter O. > [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Aug 4 03:38:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f747c7V27899 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:38:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 03:38:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040738.f747c6M27895@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Diesel bikes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Peter, now that you mention it.....that does sound familiar.... ...gotta research that one....mayvbe dig one up for Dave to drive from here back to Colarado on Hwy 50 to see how it does...... Paul --- Peter Ogilvie wrote: > > I've heard of a diesel powered motorcycle that is or was made in India. > Supposedly will go hundreds of miles on a gallon but that is its only > virtue. Have heard its loud, hot, heavy and terribly underpowered. Sort of > like the Series Rover of motorcycles. [ 29 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Aug 4 04:13:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f748D2B28005 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 04:13:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 04:13:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108040813.f748D1928001@minbar.fourfold.org> From: FHY To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Diesel bikes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org See http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/diesel.htm ---------------------------------------- andrew robinson wrote: > ...gotta research that one....mayvbe dig one up for Dave to drive from here back to Colarado on > Hwy 50 to see how it does...... From bens Sat Aug 4 06:20:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f74AKqJ28089 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 06:20:52 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 06:20:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108041020.f74AKpQ28085@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hollister Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org looks like 12:30 tomorrow TomW > > > Tom, still planning to go to Hollister this weekend? We might drive down and > join you to play around... > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Sat Aug 4 07:06:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f74B6YK28126 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 07:06:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 07:06:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200108041106.f74B6Yt28122@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tie downs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I may have missed the initial post here, though I did send a reply that nobody mentioned...(did it get to the list?) I take it, the rings mentioned are round, with a spring/loaded H-shaped clip that fits over a round peg that is attached to the ring by way of a two-way swivel mechanism????? If so, they're standard "light duty" aircraft cargo tie-down rings...I think I have a couple hundred in my garage! The smallest mounting base you can get for these, is a 1 1/2" round base, with a slight dome to it, and it's just the size for a single ring to lock onto it. Alternatively, you can get a rail that will either have a ring placement every foot or so, or a rail consisting of nothing but cutouts for the rings, from one end to the other: these rails are bolted/rivited to standard LD-7/LD-9 aircraft cargo pallets (measuring 88" x 125", or 96" x 125" - both are capable of taking a load of upto 14,000lbs) I prefer the heavy duty tie-down rings myself... Charles On Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:37:15 -0400 "Gomes, David" writes: > > "....I've got to ask - how could a tie down be flush, unless it was > planned > into the body stampings?...." > [ 51 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sat Aug 4 12:35:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f74GZ2t28400 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:35:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:35:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108041635.f74GZ1828396@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hollister Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > looks like 12:30 tomorrow > TomW Jason, I sent this yesterday..... So to be clear ( as there was a large delay in sending this ?? ) if you look at the date in the mail header you get confused. 12:30 this morning, Saturday! TomW > > > > > > Tom, still planning to go to Hollister this weekend? We might drive down and > > join you to play around... > > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Sat Aug 4 13:37:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f74HbiF28470 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:37:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:37:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108041737.f74HbhO28466@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Cc: "Thomas Joyner" Subject: Re: 7.50-16 on 7" rims Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom, > Is there anyone with any opinion on putting a 7.50-16 on a 7" rim? IMO 7" rims are too wide for a 7.50x16. I also consider a 6.5" rim too wide for that size tire but Land-Rover doesn't because that's the combination used on the NAS Defender 110. > Cooper, BTW). I expect them tuesday and was wondering if I should put them > on my stock RR alloys (6.5") or on the Disco steels (7") that I have Stock RR Alloys are 7" wide. RR steel "Rostyle" wheels are 6" wide. Disco steel rims are 7". NAS Defender 110 and "Wolf" D130 rims are 6.5" wide. Old-style Series 109 wheels are (mostly) 5.5" wide and most suitable for a 7.50x16 (IMO). Some 109s (one-tons at least) had the 6.5" ones used on the NAS 110s. Old (pre-'65 in the US, as I recall) 88s had 5"x16" wheels. From (about) '65 on, NAS 88s had 6"x15" wheels. Granny From bens Sat Aug 4 13:54:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f74HsO528500 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:54:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:54:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200108041754.f74HsNa28496@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Diesel bikes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org COOOOOL!!!!! Thanks Frank! they're pretty cool! if I had the $$ it'd be fun to et one just for the kick of it..... the modified klr looks wonderfull as well I'd love to have that for the dual-sport rides as my next bike! ...and the royal enfield for commuting to work? ;-) paul archibald --- FHY wrote: > > See http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/diesel.htm > > ---------------------------------------- > andrew robinson wrote: [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Aug 4 13:59:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f74HxcD28524 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:59:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:59:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200108041759.f74Hxbe28520@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Tie downs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > If so, they're standard "light duty" aircraft cargo tie-down rings...I > think I have a couple hundred in my garage! The smallest mounting base > you can get for these, is a 1 1/2" round base, with a slight dome to it, And are these for sale? Pete From bens Sat Aug 4 15:34:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f74JYPx28626 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:34:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:34:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200108041934.f74JYOk28622@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tie downs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Actually, I'm not sure if I have any: I SHOULD, after working for an airline 15 years! (I did fill a couple of bags with other carriers' cargo straps before I walked out the door!) The tie down rings - I hope I have some...but I don't have ANY of the base plates: the domed-top ones don't come off the containers unless the bolts are loose, while the rectangular ones came off very damaged, if they came off at all. The people that sell the American-made (I think) Hi-Lift jack once sold the railings to attach the aircraft-type tie downs, but I don't know if they still do, or not. (they also had the light duty rings) Again - if in doubt, Nordisk Aviation Products, and Century Aero Products should be able to tell who makes 'em. Charles - wishing Century Aero was still 2 miles from my home! On Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:59:37 -0400 "Hope Peter" writes: > > > If so, they're standard "light duty" aircraft cargo tie-down > rings...I > > think I have a couple hundred in my garage! The smallest mounting > base [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sat Aug 4 18:52:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f74Mqiu28790 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:52:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 18:52:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108042252.f74Mqh128786@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com Subject: More neat stuff... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thursday evening, Highway 50 eastbound, I caught a glimpse of either a Series SWB SW, or a D-90 SW (it passed me before my brain said "Hey - didja see that!?"): whatever it was, it was either limestone, or off-white - hell, it may have been a D110 - I only caught a glimpse of the side at the rear, but I think it was a SWB - only good view I got, was the rear end, with the high mounted spare on the door, with a black cover with some sort of pattern on it...couldn't tell from the distance...anybody on the list? Concord, the 680: beonze green D-90SW, VERY nice looking female driving...anybody on the list? Santa Clara, the 101: got passed by a black Rangie Classic - driver paying more attention to the cellphone at his ear (SHAME ON YOU, if you're on the list!) - plate said something like "PRHLAD"...anybody? SFO Airport, the 10: saw that chrome yellow Rangie Classic heading north: looked like a female driver. (last time I saw this truck was about 4 months ago, on the 680 south, with a flat tire) San Ramon: in a driveway off Alcosta(?) Bl. not one, but TWO Shelby GT350 fastbacks, ready to rock! (must be nice having that kind of cash...) Fremont - Scott Creek Rd. about 4 blocks from the infamous Andrew Robinson (sorry - didn't know that my next two stops in Dublin and Concord weren't going to be open yesterday, or I would have stopped by...it was already 1430hrs!): seen running on the streets, a genuine Jeep CJ/Levis edition, complete with original paint, and the denim top!!!!!!! (I haven't seen one of these since they were new!) Somewhere, I think it was in Pittsburg near the water, I caught a glimpse of a T-series MG in a parking lot For the Rover car folks: I got a message on my machine, that there's a shop in/near Berkley/Alameda that has a TC2000 for sale/parts! Tom Summers(sp) Summers Classic Motors: 510-763-2918. I've heard that the car is kinda beat, but I haven't talked to the guy, nor have I seen it, so I can't say. There was no price mentioned, but the person that turned me on to it says it might be FREE. Go get it, Roland... Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sun Aug 5 00:31:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f754Vr930006 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 00:31:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 00:31:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108050431.f754Vqj30002@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com Subject: Viru$ ALERT!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, I just finished re-installing Windows AGAIN: seems that either when opening an email from a fellow on the Rovernet, OR, when updating my viru$ software via Symantic.com, I somehow got hold of a worm known as SirC32. This is an execute file that, when deleted, won't let you open many programs/files. When I opened the email I afore mentioned, there was an attached file: I tried to open it, and Norton went crazy. I deleted the file - yet it didn't go away from the attachment in the email (...did it REALLY delete afterall?). I responded to the person in question, warning him that he may have something that he can't throw back (voluntarily), copying my post to Rovernet, and it was bounced back saying that there was a HTML in it! (I don't use that stuff...) That's when I got suspicious. I then went online and updated my Norton software: after logging off and restarting my computer, that's when things went wrong! I deleted the problematic execute file BEFORE I had checked to see if it was a legitimate file! Interesting part was re-installing Windows, or rather, being able to...ended up restarting the computer in DOS mode, then going to D drive and typing setup. All is well now...I hope! Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sun Aug 5 00:33:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f754XjW30019 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 00:33:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 00:33:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200108050433.f754XiM30015@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Cooper CTD Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John said - "Interesting about the CTD being phased out -- I'll have to try something else!" Another local tire shop has a line called Mastercraft which according to the sales/install guy are Coopers re-badged. He quoted me $145/ea. out the door for the CTD look-alike. Since the Coopers were on close-out from another shop I went that route. So, John you could still be in luck for that tire. Tom From bens Sun Aug 5 04:43:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f758hCT30888 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 04:43:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 04:43:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200108050843.f758hB230884@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Viru$ ALERT!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yes Charles and others..... BEWARE there are a Shit-load(pardon the language!) of different ones out there right now! I have gotten TWELVE different infected attachments this week!!!!!! and not all are the same worm or virus......so it looks like the hackers are bored during summer vacation and out in record numbers???? Paul Archibald --- Charles R Irvin wrote: > > Folks, > > I just finished re-installing Windows AGAIN: seems that either when > opening an email from a fellow on the Rovernet, OR, when updating my [ 32 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sun Aug 5 04:57:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f758vjO30918 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 04:57:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 04:57:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200108050857.f758vj730914@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Viru$ ALERT!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org TWELVE IN A WEEK!?!?!?!? Paul...you sure the ex isn't pissed off at you, or something? You left your last job on a good note, didn't you? I mean, that's alot of nasties to catch in a week...I'm sure that Norton stopped the one my friend emailed me, but I think I got the other one when I was online with Symantic, updating my Norton! Could have been something Juno had, too... Charles - wondering why the lists are quiet...hope my computers' illness didn't spread before I got rid of it! On Sun, 5 Aug 2001 04:43:11 -0400 andrew robinson writes: > > Yes Charles and others..... > > BEWARE there are a Shit-load(pardon the language!) of different ones > out there right now! I have [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sun Aug 5 09:49:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f75DnhS31133 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:49:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:49:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108051349.f75Dngl31129@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Christopher H. Dow" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Cooper CTD Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thomas Joyner wrote: >John said - "Interesting about the CTD being phased out -- I'll have to try >something else!" > 8< Does anyone know why Cooper phased out the CTD? I dimly recall hearing on NPR that Cooper is filling the vacuum at Ford left by the end of their relationship with Firestone. I wonder if they canned the CTD in order to make Exploder tires? C From bens Sun Aug 5 14:47:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f75IlrE31472 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:47:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:47:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108051847.f75IlqH31468@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Viru$ ALERT!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- Charles R Irvin wrote: > > TWELVE IN A WEEK!?!?!?!? > > Paul...you sure the ex isn't pissed off at you, or something? You left > your last job on a good note, didn't you? Yes my ex is still on good terms and I did leave the last job on good terms...these have been attached to random e-mails sent to me... ...one of them was from a guy I know from the landr0ver disco group, but don't think it was really from him, as it mentioned joining the NCRC ! and he lives in the east! so I think it may have really have come from someone on the disco list from here who had his address in address book? it was strange! I have been using this yahoo address as a filter as my outlook will not let me download or upload mail to my ISP or via webmail either....there is a Norton A/V built into Yahoo-mail so it finds that stuff right away for me. pretty cool......maybe I'll just change my name on here to Paul instead of the ol' Andrew Robinson Alias and keep it this way...this way it's accessable from anywhere and keeps the virus'sout of my computer pretty well Paul > > I mean, that's alot of nasties to catch in a week...I'm sure that Norton > stopped the one my friend emailed me, but I think I got the other one > when I was online with Symantic, updating my Norton! Could have been > something Juno had, too... [ 20 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Mon Aug 6 02:36:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f766a3f01000 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:36:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:36:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200108060636.f766a3g00996@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Roger Sinasohn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Viru$ ALERT!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 12:31 AM 8/5/01 -0400, you wrote: >I just finished re-installing Windows AGAIN: seems that either when >opening an email from a fellow on the Rovernet, OR, when updating my >viru$ software via Symantic.com, I somehow got hold of a worm known as >SirC32. This is an execute file that, when deleted, won't let you open >many programs/files. Symantec has a free disinfecant program for SirCam. I've gotten about 60 copies of it so far. It looks different each time because it grabs random files from the infected computer, attaches itself, and sends itself out. Rule #1: NEVER, ever, ever open an attachment unless you a) know what it is, b) know who sent it, c) were expecting it, d) have current, active virus protection software running, and e) have a recent, full backup. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger@sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/ From bens Mon Aug 6 02:49:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f766nbA01041 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:49:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:49:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200108060649.f766nbA01037@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Viru$ ALERT!!! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yeah - I'm pretty sure that's how I got it! My computer was fine after deleting the infected email a friend sent me (a guy on Rovernet...guess his machine has been infected for some time, since this was the first email I've seen from him in nearly 2 months). However, after getting updates from Symantec, my computer began acting up soon as I restarted it. Charles On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:36:03 -0400 Roger Sinasohn writes: > > At 12:31 AM 8/5/01 -0400, you wrote: > >I just finished re-installing Windows AGAIN: seems that either when > >opening an email from a fellow on the Rovernet, OR, when updating > my [ 32 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Mon Aug 6 04:06:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7686xE01304 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 04:06:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 04:06:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108060806.f7686wN01300@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Hollister day trip, report & sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A group of Rovers informally went down to Hollister and met up on Saturday. Petra and I in the 110, Casey in his SIII 88, Scott R in his kitted Disco II, the Killer Bee, and Tom's friend in his newly purchased J@@p. Petra and I meet Scott at his place in Los Gatos at about 10:30am, and we contacted Casey and made arrangements to meet him at Hollister. Tom and his friend were to be there around 12:30pm. On the way south a fellow 110 drove upon us, flashed his lights, waved, and then existed the freeway. Looked like a man with a beard driving, had tinted windows in the rear, extra lights on the front. Anyone from the group?? We arrived at Holloster about 12:45 and proceeded to drive around and play. After about an hour of playing around in the obstacle course and some light exploring we ran into a Ford Bronco (or something like that, I'm not sure what it was) that was stuck in a huge rut on the hill leading to the main campground. Scott and I helped figure out a way to get them out of their situation, and I ended up pulling them out from behind. In the process of getting unstuck they tweaked their rear bumper and literally pulled their exhaust pipe out and ran it over with the right rear tire! Then, while packing up to continue driving around, a group of J@@ps drove up to where we were (they all said "offroad outlaws" on them) and proceeded to climb the hill we were still standing and parked on! Talk about pathetic. There were a number of other routes up the hill, but they had to go up the one we were already on, without bothering to wait their turn or to be cautious and safe enough to allow us to get off the hill first. Sad. Later I got the front of the 110 stuck in a small pond and Scott had to pull me out. Shortly after, Scott got himself onto an inclide on a side trail that required the use of his winch to prevent him from tiping. Petra drove his DII while Scott spotted and I went to find Casey. Just as I found Casey, we bumped into Tom who was going to the obstacle course as well. Casey and I went back to check on Scott and Petra. Next we all watched Tom do some rock crawling and then Casey tried it, and the newbie J@@per with Tom tried it too! Found out is is darn near impossible to balance on the vehicle teeter-totter, and lots of people wanted to see a Rover drive through the mud pit. None of us tried for good reason. Scott split about 4pm while Casey, Petra and I went up into the hills and Tom went off to another area. That was the last we saw of Tom for the day. We had really poor radio contact for the entire time for some reason... It was great to see Tom and his friend did really well driving on the rock crawling area! While on the trails in the hills we got the 110 on three wheels a few times trying a portion of one particular trail that was really rutted. Nothing very special about the rest of the trails, but when we got near the top of the heighest point in the park we came upon a Chevy Tahoe that did a cork screw in the air and landed on its roof, wheels-up, while trying to drive down a steep tripple black diamond mini trail. When we came upon the accident we ran down to them and offered whatever help we could. It occured about an hour before we got there, and the truck had a driver, his brother, and two very young kids in the back. The brother and kids were gone already, and the driver and his father who had just arrived to help, were still there. There wasn't a lot we could do but offer moral support and drinks, first aid, etc. He was bleeding, but alive and well. The passengers were all ok too, they said. The truck was a total loss and a real mess. Apparently they got up on the left side of the trail into the weeds while heading down and the right front tire still on the tail came upon a deep cut which sent the nose down. The speed sent it forward at the send time, and the truck flipped over on its roof about 15-20 feet from where it started. Overall it was a wonderfully fun day. It was my first time to Hollister and I'll certainly go back with friends or family when they are in town to show them what we do in but in an easy afternoon! Very easy trails, a neat area to play in, beautiful views from the top, great weather, and not too many outlaw J@@Pers and pickup trucks to ruin the day! On the way back, we spotted and stopped to photograph a Disco II donated by Land Rover North America for use by the Park Ranger. It was fully kitted with winch, red and blue lights on top, bull bar, the works. It was pretty neat. I wondered if it was the same one I read about in a recent issue of the newsletter. Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Mon Aug 6 09:56:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f76DusW02344 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:56:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:56:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108061356.f76DurT02336@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Minnick, Kelly T" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: Pacific NW challenge Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Is there a web site for this event? Can someone send it to me here at work? Thanks, Kelly Minnick NAWCWD 478200D 1 Administration Circle China Lake, CA 93555-6100 Phone: (760) 939-7647, DSN 437-7647 Fax: (760) 939-7708, DSN 437-7708 Email: MinnickKT@navair.navy.mil From bens Tue Aug 7 03:16:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f777GGA09608 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 03:16:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 03:16:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200108070716.f777GFu09604@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Pacific NW challenge Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > Is there a web site for this event? Can someone send it to me here at work? > Thanks, > Never saw if this got posted or not http://www.roverlanders.bc.ca/NWC_2001.html Pete From bens Tue Aug 7 04:43:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f778hsB10380 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 04:43:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 04:43:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200108070843.f778hsH10376@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: I-90 Yellow Disco Sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was puttering this afternoon and stopped to sit on the tailgate and look down from where the bottom of the cloud began. Directly below, at probably 2500 ft was a yellow speck I assumed to be a converted school bus, or maybe a newer jeeb. It wasn't moving. That it could have been an LR crossed my mind, but only for a second. The route back down the mountain doesn't lend itself to looking at anything but the trail so I had all but forgotten about it byt he time I was on the freeway and passed a dirty AA Yellow Disco that was already exiting into North Bend (burgers!). It didn't have the black hood decal like the XD, or the roof-rack (I don't think), but had a black-circular logo on the driver's door (EcoChallenge?). Next time I see something yellow, I'm getting out the binocs! Even if it turns out to be a bus. On a very spooky note, still giving me chills daily: three or four weeks ago I took my son (2 yrs) with me and led my new brother-in-law in a stock Disco on the main access trail to this area (I-90 at Exit 38). It just basically follows an elevation contour for about 10 miles with various trails branching off and up from it. Everything's a dead end eventually. Nice and safe--I thought. We'd driven to the end of the main road, had lunch, let his dog and my son run around for a while, and then headed out. When we were almost out there was an abandoned YELLOW Chevy Luv that I had seen along the trail for probably the month preceding. I'd watched it get more and more trashed by vandals. Obviously, it was there when we entered. Now there was smoke coming from it! Things have been very dry up here--obviously--so I stopped after we had both the Rovers past it, grabbed the extinguisher, and ran back to put out whatever was burning. Turns out there was the stub of a road-flare burning on the floor board with little else left inside. I gave it a shot with the extinguisher and we got the hell out of there. Not only could this have started a whole #@%*&$ mountain on fire, it could have trapped us in there if it had gotten to the dense brush that was around/overhanging it. I really don't know how it didn't. What's more disturbing is that we didn't see another vehicle with occupants up there that whole day. Kevan Wiser '87 RR From bens Tue Aug 7 04:41:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f778fJE10367 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 04:41:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 04:41:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200108070841.f778fI710363@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Ogilvie To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: subscribe Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org subscribe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Aug 7 10:29:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f77ETK812202 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:29:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:29:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200108071429.f77ETKQ12198@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: I-90 Yellow Disco Sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....an abandoned YELLOW Chevy Luv that I had seen along the trail for probably the month preceding...." The thing sounds like a mischief magnet. Maybe a good trail clean-up project to drag it out of there. Ask whoever oversees the land (USFS?, DNR?, BLM?, State?) if they'd help with disposal, or at least tell you the regs on vehicles abandoned on public land. If not, just drag it out and leave it on a state maintained hiway. They keep THOSE clean. :^( Not really.....If you drag it out you'll have to dispose of it. A scrap yard might give you $10 for it or something, but they might ask where it came from. Why is it so hard to do the right thing? :^) -Dave G. From bens Tue Aug 7 13:29:00 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f77HT0Z13582 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:29:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:29:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200108071729.f77HSxF13578@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In a message dated 8/2/01 8:27:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, david.gomes@gambrobct.com writes: << It also needs a cassette for the CD changer, brake pads and rotors, exhaust, swivel pin preload adjust, and a water pump. >> David, Looks like most of your questions were already answered by others. But you do say it needs exhaust. I just put an NRP system on mine and am quite impressed with the results. Not only is it beautifully crafted and tucked nicely out of the way, but the extra oomph is noticeable. On my hiway "test grade", I used to reach the top at about 52mph with the tranny trying to decide between 2nd and 3rd gear. Yesterday I crested the top at the speed of light. Well, 64mph actually, but that's fast with a 3.5L going uphill. I passed a semi ;>)) My cats were in bad shape and needed replacing, as did the rest of my exhaust, and for my engine/model year (87) the whole NRP system worked out to be cheeper than replacing with stock. It's worth a look from both a cost and performance point of view. I'm sure there's probably a link on the D-90 page, but just in case: http://www.onlinemac.com/business/northwestrover/ Good luck with the Rangie! Kevan Wiser From bens Tue Aug 7 14:14:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f77IEmF13896 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:14:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:14:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200108071814.f77IElN13892@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Scott Rachfal To: Mendo Subject: Hollister Saturday Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Barry I am out of town Saturday, Sorry : ( Scott From bens Tue Aug 7 15:31:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f77JVEr14459 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:31:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:31:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108071931.f77JVDq14455@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Rangie Questions Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...I just put an NRP system on mine..." Wow, thanks Kevan. I haven't figured out where in the continuum my exhaust problems lie. Somewhere between "a shot with the mig and whatever scrap iron I find around" and the full-on NRP treatment. I would like to do the NRP one day, but sooner or later will depend on the condition of the current system. The testimonial is good to hear though. Sounds like money well spent. -Dave G. From bens Tue Aug 7 15:37:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f77JbF614521 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:37:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:37:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200108071937.f77JbE114517@minbar.fourfold.org> From: KC To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Please unsubscribe. I'll be traveling for a few weeks. kcmares@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Aug 7 16:00:29 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f77K0TX14758 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:00:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:00:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200108072000.f77K0Sx14754@minbar.fourfold.org> From: JoeSmo To: mendo_list Subject: clunk clunk Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I an experiencing a clunking noise along the drive train. I an not sure where it is, anyone with an idea would be helpful. When I first start up and drive I do not epereience it. It takes at least 10 miles (~15 min of driving) before it shows itself. I thought it could be the rear diff but exchanged with my spare and it is still there. I checked the u-joints, they seem tight. It happens only when I am slowing down and almost at a compleat stop (<3 mph). There is a small amount of movement with the propshaft. If you need more info let me know, I would like to be clunk free. Thank you Joe Palecek 65' 109 Station Wagon (Pokey) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Aug 7 16:35:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f77KZtD14991 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:35:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:35:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200108072035.f77KZsO14987@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Hollister day trip, report & sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > > A group of Rovers informally went down to Hollister and met up on Saturday. > Petra and I in the 110, Casey in his SIII 88, Scott R in his kitted Disco II, > the Killer Bee, and Tom's friend in his newly purchased J@@p. [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] We had a blast, and infected another person with fourwheelitis ( of the j@@p strain, but at least its a similar disease ) He can't wait to see the pictures you guys took! He's already ordering upgrade parts :) We ended up playing some more in the playpen area and then I took him down some triple black diamond canyon trail ( near the big hill climb )... I didn't mean to drag him down that trail, but he did very well!!! The vehicle has decent limited slip as part of a off-road package and it does VERY well! We ultimately had to leave a little after 4:00 as we had an evening engagement to make.... I didn't hear anyone on the CB while we were in the canyon prolly due to geography of the canyon! Bummer about the rolled rig, but at least everyone was OK! Till next time! TomW *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Tue Aug 7 19:48:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f77Nmhg16616 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:48:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:48:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108072348.f77NmgR16612@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: clunk clunk Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe, That's what you get for driving a clunker! ;>) You eliminated the diff and the u-joints. So there's a good chance the noise is the normal play that clunks back and forth when you try to go slower than the idle adjustment. Is it a new noise? Is there more info? Bob B At 01:00 PM 8/7/2001, you wrote: >I an experiencing a clunking noise along the drive >train. I an not sure where it is, anyone with an idea >would be helpful. > >When I first start up and drive I do not epereience [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Aug 7 20:57:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f780vRu17184 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:57:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:57:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200108080057.f780vRs17180@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: Cooper CTD, RIP? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 26 lines filtered. ] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C11FA2.D0C83CD2 charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry to hear about the impending demise of the Cooper CTD tire-- was it the model or just the archaic (but my favorite) 7.50R16 size? I bought two sets of 5 (Watusi and Trip) and recommended them to several others. Pretty good compromise tire that didn't make too many compromises! Cheers. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C11FA2.D0C83CD2 From bens Tue Aug 7 22:37:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f782bde17979 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:37:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:37:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200108080237.f782bdR17975@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Vx5 ham radios and lrham list Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi All, It sounds like several mendo folks have Yaesu Vx5 radios. (I'll probably get a vx5 in a couple of months) There is a yahoo list for this radio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YAESUVX5 and their links section lists this great mod site http://www.icongrp.com/~sllewd/ Also there is list called LRHAM for "Hams that also like LandRovers" at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lrham John From bens Wed Aug 8 01:03:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7853uZ20332 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:03:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:03:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200108080503.f7853tP20326@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Neil Andrews" To: "Mendo_Recce digest:" Subject: Fw: Northwest Challenge Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This was just send to the Rover-Landers membership. Looks like registration forms need to be sent in pretty soon. Neil Andrews ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rover Landers" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: RL: Northwest Challenge > Just a reminder!! Get your 13th Annual Northwest Challenge application forms in by August 31st. > > Details at http://www.roverlanders.bc.ca/ > BTW I have added loads of new pictures of past NWC's for your viewing > pleasure!! > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] account at http://www.eudoramail.com > From bens Wed Aug 8 19:41:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f78Nf6F31002 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:41:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:41:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200108082341.f78Nf5i30998@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: anyone seen the new lre? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org someone just contacted me via email and said there is a write-up on the ncrc in the new lre. anyone seen it? i'm curious because i was told that the magazine printed the group photo from this year's not-a-rally and may have confused the event as a club event. let me know. thanks! -->jeff From bens Thu Aug 9 02:36:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f796a4a05745 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 02:36:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 02:36:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200108090636.f796a3t05741@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Daniel Oppenheim To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: DIABETES MARATHON SPONSORSHIP Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm in for $3.47 d At 08:39 PM 08/03/2001 -0400, you wrote: From bens Thu Aug 9 10:05:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f79E5UT12152 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:05:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:05:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200108091405.f79E5Uf12148@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Freeman, Ben" To: "'mendo recce@forrfold.org'" Subject: Please subscribe my friend.. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org subscribe in digest mode nat4x4@telus.net Benjamin J. Freeman Site Security Supervisor Weyerhauser Aberdeen Sawmill (360)538-1033x650 From bens Thu Aug 9 19:22:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f79NMSG21127 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:22:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:22:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200108092322.f79NMSm21123@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Cooper CTD Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Blais said: "Sorry to hear about the impending demise of the Cooper CTD tire-- was it the model or just the archaic (but my favorite) 7.50R16 size? I bought two sets of 5 (Watusi and Trip) and recommended them to several others. Pretty good compromise tire that didn't make too many compromises!" Blair, According to the shop I bought from there was no CTD at all (not just the 7.5016) in the newest order catalog. As I mentioned earlier, the Cooper CTD is available re-badged as a Mastercraft tire, although it would be interesting to find out if the Mastercraft would go the way of the Dodo too. Tom 88 RR & CTDs Durango From bens Thu Aug 9 23:07:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7A37XH25888 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:07:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:07:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200108100307.f7A37XX25884@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: Off-road event Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What is the major off-road event (I think Bruce, Jeremy, Tom others?) participated in a few years ago in the Northwest that had mainly J@@p's, etc. entered in it? Later, Kelly Minnick From bens Fri Aug 10 05:44:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7A9iU004363 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 05:44:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 05:44:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108100944.f7A9iTt04359@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Off-road event Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 11:07 PM -0400 8/9/01, Kelly Minnick wrote: >What is the major off-road event (I think Bruce, Jeremy, Tom others?) >participated in a few years ago in the Northwest that had mainly J@@p's, >etc. entered in it? Later, North West Team Trophy Challenge? Could you make this a multiple choice test, I know that I'd get it right that way. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take." ~ Adlai Stevenson From bens Fri Aug 10 11:06:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AF6rQ11610 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:06:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:06:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101506.f7AF6qf11606@minbar.fourfold.org> From: prsncat@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Off-topic: Recycled Parts Help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 15 lines filtered. ] I know a few of you get to the recycled parts lots like Ecology on a regular basis. I have a 1978 Ford Ranchero Brougham GT (shares a lot with the LTD) that needs a few things and I was hoping someone would keep an eye out for me. Email me off list and I'll let you know what I am looking for. BTW, the car is for sale at $1000 in case anyone is interested. Rover related: Curiousity... I spotted a RHD Series III 109 in a light tan with white top heading up Jamboree in Tustin recently. I've seen it twice and I was curious if the owner is here on the list. No particular reason other than to comment that it looks like a very nice LR. Brian Foster Irvine CA From bens Fri Aug 10 11:44:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AFiVY12837 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:44:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:44:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101544.f7AFiV012833@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: Off-topic: new addition Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org FWIW, I finally gave in to temptation and purchased by first motorcycle in almost 25 years. I took delivery of a BMW F650GS Dakar model yesterday. It felt good to be back in the saddle again. I hold Mitch from Denver, on the LRO-list, responsible since he *made* me ride a Norton that he was interested in several weeks ago. Cheers, Gerry Elam PHX AZ From bens Fri Aug 10 12:09:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AG9df13612 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:09:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:09:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101609.f7AG9d913608@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Franklin H. Yap" To: Subject: Re: Off-topic: new addition Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 6 lines filtered. ] Congratulations. That is a good looking bike! I remember reading some time ago that several Series owners were also BMW (motorcycles only) owners. From bens Fri Aug 10 12:29:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AGTHP14151 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:29:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:29:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101629.f7AGTGu14147@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: Off-topic: new addition Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks...now if I can just keeping from killing myself. I've already hit dirt at 65 and asphalt at 55 and don't care to repeat either. Cheers, Gerry From bens Fri Aug 10 12:29:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AGTwu14211 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:29:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:29:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101629.f7AGTvu14207@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Ed Sanman To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Northwest Team Trophy Challenge Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The TTC has a web site, for those interested. www.teamtrophychallenge.com Ed Sanman Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 05:44:29 -0400 From: "G. Mugele" Subject: Re: Off-road event At 11:07 PM -0400 8/9/01, Kelly Minnick wrote: >What is the major off-road event (I think Bruce, Jeremy, Tom others?) >participated in a few years ago in the Northwest that had mainly J@@p's, >etc. entered in it? Later, North West Team Trophy Challenge? Could you make this a multiple choice test, I know that I'd get it right that way. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take." ~ Adlai Stevenson From bens Fri Aug 10 13:14:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AHEEx15421 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:14:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:14:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101714.f7AHEDB15417@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Off-topic: new addition Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry, I second teh congrats! Cool Ride! now get out there and play! ;-) I'm jealous as I am down to the Duc for now so don't ahve a dual-sport anymore......someady hopefully soon if i can trade somethinbg for one... and Frank, I think that most of us bmw riders have sold them now.... Bob Frey is the only one I can think of off the top of my head that still rides a bmw at the moment as the rest of us sold ours after realizing they were just sitting in teh garage and would rather have a series rig sitting in the driveway instead...right Jeremy? ;-) Paul --- "Franklin H. Yap" wrote: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ Included Original Message ] > [ 6 lines filtered. ] > Congratulations. That is a good looking bike! [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Fri Aug 10 13:15:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AHFrh15475 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:15:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:15:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101715.f7AHFrF15471@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Off-topic: new addition Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry, I am assuming you mean in the past not on the new toy? ;-0 Paul --- "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" wrote: > > Thanks...now if I can just keeping from killing myself. I've already hit > dirt at 65 and asphalt at 55 and don't care to repeat either. > > Cheers, [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Fri Aug 10 13:49:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AHniY16201 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:49:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:49:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101749.f7AHnh116197@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Off-road event Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry's very close, it's the Pacific Northwest Team Trophy Challange. Held every May in the Tilamook State Forest west of Portland, OR. It is organized by Doug Shipman, sponsered by Region 6 of the Pacific Northwest 4wd Association, and is open to all makes of vehicles. It attracts a wide range of heavily modified, specialized off road trucks. Not to be confused with the Northwest Challenge put on by the Pacific Coast Rover Club that is for Land Rovers only and rotates between OR, WA, and BC. Also a very challenging event but not as bloodthirstily competitive as Team Trophy Challange. Bruce "G. Mugele" wrote: > At 11:07 PM -0400 8/9/01, Kelly Minnick wrote: > >What is the major off-road event (I think Bruce, Jeremy, Tom others?) > >participated in a few years ago in the Northwest that had mainly J@@p's, > >etc. entered in it? Later, > [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 10 14:41:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7AIfl817430 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:41:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:41:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200108101841.f7AIfkk17426@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Off-topic: new addition Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This is too cool not to share. Many of us knew the basics involved here, but here are all the details on something we take for granted too often..... http://www.howstuffworks.com/question446.htm -Dave G. PS- Congrats Gerry! I knew taking that Norton for a ride would get the juices flowing again! :^))) From bens Fri Aug 10 17:13:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7ALDBj21471 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:13:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:13:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200108102113.f7ALDAA21467@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland" To: Subject: RE: Off-topic: new addition Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ooh - that sounds like a lot of fun - congratulations! I haven't seen the Dakar model but I did get a loaner F650 (the street version) once a few years ago when my Triumph was in for service. I had trouble bringing it back (my 20 minute ride home from the shop turned into a three hour tour of the Santa Cruz mountains). Have fun! Shannon > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org]On Behalf Of Elam, Gerry (CORP) > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 8:45 AM > To: 'mendo_recce@fourfold.org' [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Aug 11 17:21:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7BLLcx09418 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:21:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:21:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200108112121.f7BLLcs09414@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Off-topic: Recycled Parts Help Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I actually saw one of those Rancheros at a Carls Jr. in West Sacramento the other day! Once in a blue moon I'll see one at a wrecking yard, but not often at all. If you get out that way, I'd suggest trying the yards in Bakersfield and Fresno: lotsa farmers out there, so the yards there see LOTS of pickup trucks, and El Caminos/Rancheros (mostly the Falcon type, though). That 109: I've heard about it being in your area - and I think - if its the right one, the owner once made claim that his/her truck was THE Gillian! Charles On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:06:52 -0400 prsncat@aol.com writes: > > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] > [ 15 lines filtered. ] > [ 22 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sat Aug 11 20:29:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7C0T7v09688 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:29:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:29:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108120029.f7C0T6j09684@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hiya, spent a week in Santa Cruz, just drove home today. On 17, oing south, a Disco with surfboards on top followed by a topless yellow D90. Could have been together or not. no series all week. The Gelandewagen on Seabright wasn't around. Found a VW Dormie in SC, corner of Soquel and Paul Minnie Ave. newer style, meaning westie with dormie top. cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" From bens Sat Aug 11 23:20:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7C3K1R09840 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 23:20:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 23:20:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200108120320.f7C3K0Q09836@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: "'mendo_Recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Oh NO, Mendo is on fire Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anybody else been watching the Stonyford fire? I havn't seen the actual area burned, but the news talked about Letts Lake camp being closed, and the fire was heading toward Snow mountain Wilderness. Last I heard 10000 acres had burned. Could make for some major trail clearing, or just plain closures.:( -Rob From bens Sun Aug 12 12:33:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7CGXVo11685 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:33:31 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:33:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200108121633.f7CGXUA11681@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: sighting 2 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hiya, Forgot to mention that within 5 minutes of entering Santa Cruz (August 4th), I spotted TeriAnn. However, she was in her TR3, not the Rover. She turned left from 7th Ave onto some street that goes across the creek, right by the Seabright brewery. I pulled over and waved alot, but she drove right by the big ol Mercury with 4 bikes on top, pulled over to the side of the road. We had lunch at the Seabright. Teriann, you looked very happy in the Triumph and I have to say that on such a sunny beautiful day, I would have been too. And the TR3 looked good also. cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" From bens Sun Aug 12 15:29:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7CJTCE11907 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:29:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:29:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200108121929.f7CJTBo11903@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Oh NO, Mendo is on fire Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 15 lines filtered. ] In a message dated 8/11/01 8:04:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kerner@vegmail.ucdavis.edu writes: > I havn't seen the actual > area burned, but the news talked about Letts Lake camp being closed, and the > I saw on the news, the fire burnt both sides of Fouts Springs Camp. Staff took refuge in the block house, and the fire parted, passed and all were all right. Zack From bens Sun Aug 12 19:19:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7CNJUR12109 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:19:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 19:19:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108122319.f7CNJTP12105@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com Subject: More stuff... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This week's run saw a few neat things: Thursday eve, Sacramento, U.S. 50 at Watt: topless red D-90 heading east. At Zinfandel I spotted either a white D-90 SW, or a Series Safari, also heading east: it went by too fast (I was heading west, and caught it out the corner of my eye) Friday morning, Sacramento, U.S. 50 at Mather Field: same topless red D-90 heading west! South San Francisco, Industry Way (off Bayshore): didn't remember to pay attention, but there seems to be some sort of Brit car repair shop there...maybe an exporter - I'm not sure, but there were lotsa Jags and late TR's there. I was in such a hurry that I wasn't paying attention (I know...beat me with a MGB upper door trim). Belmont, Friday, El Camino Real: baby blue '61 Jag Mk.2 heading south, no rear bumper, and looked like car was being readied for paint. Oh - anybody with stock in Farmers Insurance may want to dump it: if some of you recall, back in June I was accused of bumping a RAV4 with my trailer while making a right turn in Bakersfield (he cut on the inside of me at the corner of a residential street, while I was turning onto a main street!). Anyway, the guy called the Bakersfield cops and made a report: they contacted my company a week later (seems he took down my license plate number) and accused me of hit& run! I completed the report with the cops over the phone, and we ran into a problem...the guy claimed that it happened at an entirely different corner! (a major intersection where he could claim to his insurance that I turned from a middle lane, of course) I insisted to the cop that this was impossible, and after several phonecalls to the other guy and then me, I finally told him "Look officer, that guy is full of it: it couldn't possibly have happened where he claims, because I was on my own time when it happened, and I was NOT making a delivery - I have no deliveries in that area: there is an auto parts store at the corner where it did happen, and I had just LEFT THE AUTO PARTS STORE! I have a receipt to prove MY wherabouts that day. It's 1/4 a mile from where he claims I was, there is NO truck parking where he claims I was, and it was over 110f that day - I'd be a damn fool to park that far from where I was going and walk, on a day like that!" I never heard another peep from the officer, other than to say that it clearly wasn' t my fault, and that he'd call the guy once more to see if he fesses up (the officer did say from the start that the guy admitted to cutting inside my turn). I get a call last week at home, from his insurance company: It seems that he has given them yet another story! I told them what happened, explained that even the cops said it was his fault/why are you calling ME?, and once again explained what really happened...they claim that the guy doesn't even know where the accident happened, but that I definately hit him! They also claim no knowledge of a police report (where'd they get my phone number from, since my number isn't listed?) He never even tried to stop me when he backed out of my way to let me continue my turn - if I even did hit him, and he did NOT get out to look at his car! A day later, they called me again: I left them a message advising them to put any further questions/comments in writing to my company or to myself. Looks like, if they are stupid enough to persue this, I may have them for fraud and harrassment... Stay tuned... Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sun Aug 12 20:15:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7D0F5m12201 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:15:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:15:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200108130015.f7D0F5J12197@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Eric Wilcox To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re:Off topic / BMW/LR Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry: Congrats from a fellow BMW Moto / LR owner to another. I ride a '98 R1100GS almost daily. Given that you are in Phoenix, you should pop over to Al Jesse's shop in Glendale, http://www.jesseluggage.com and have him outfit your 650 with his aluminum luggage. I have his Odyssey bags on mine and they are the best. I haven't ridden the Dakar version of the 650, but I understand they are sweet and very off-road capable. Mine works well on benign stuff, but is way heavy for anything too technical. Is fantastic on the road, loaded down with camping gear though! As a result, my LR is the one sitting in the garage most of the time... Ride safely. Eric Wilcox 1993 D110NAS - Jerry > >Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:44:31 -0400 >From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" >Subject: Re: Off-topic: new addition > [ 10 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sun Aug 12 20:49:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7D0nPi12242 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:49:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:49:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108130049.f7D0nPs12238@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Gbrovers@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: RE: BP deal #378 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In a message dated 7/16/01 2:39:33 PM, twakeman@cruzers.com writes: << It will be interesting to see what others say about your posting. >> TeriAnn Again a very delayed response. Based on what everyone on the mendo list had to say it sounds like nobody much cares. I guess this is one of things that I like about the mendo list, it doesn't seem like a the usual uptight email list but rather a collection of friends. Bill GBR From bens Sun Aug 12 21:46:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7D1ksD12362 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:46:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:46:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108130146.f7D1kri12358@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: cool sighting Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was on my way to the Sac airport in the Rangie, and I spotted a light green series 88 No top, with jump seats in the back, pulling a little trailer heading west bound on 80 on the Causeway. Looked to be in pretty good shape. -Rob From bens Mon Aug 13 01:50:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7D5oB713877 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:50:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:50:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200108130550.f7D5oAL13873@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: Diesel Motorcycles Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org http://web.ukonline.co.uk/Members/jr.marsh/bfg.htm#650 More diesel motorcycles. Later, Kelly Minnick From bens Mon Aug 13 02:07:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7D67fj13902 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:07:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:07:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108130607.f7D67e513898@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Lou Weinert" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: More stuff... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >From: Charles R Irvin >South San Francisco, Industry Way (off Bayshore): didn't remember to pay >attention, but there seems to be some sort of Brit car repair shop >there...maybe an exporter - I'm not sure, but there were lotsa Jags and >late TR's there. I was in such a hurry that I wasn't paying attention (I >know...beat me with a MGB upper door trim). [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Charles, That's Jim Griffin and Son. They also have a shop on the El Camino near Westborough- where they were selling an BRG E-type 2+2. Jim used to race formula ford and has quite a cache of hi-po crossflow parts that could spice up your Cortina. Nice folks. -Lou Weinert _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Mon Aug 13 02:29:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7D6TsH13950 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:29:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:29:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108130629.f7D6Trn13946@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: More stuff... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org REALLY?????..... Gee - I c a n pass by there literally anytime that I'm in the area, because I have a regular delivery on Leland just 1 block west of Bayshore, then sometimes I'll have a delivery on Mission, by way of Sister Cities Bl, or farther down on Bayshore....I can easily stop by and chat with them! Even if I don't have another delivery in that area, the way I usually get back to the 101 isn't (technically - but tolerated...I usually hit the 3-Com off/on ramps via Tunnel Ave.) the way trucks should go - they want us to take Bayshore south another 2-3 miles, because they have all these neat red light cameras along the way. (mind you, truck drivers pay higher fines - so much discrimination we have in this free country of ours...) Can't believe I once did a pickup at the end of Industry (at night!), when I worked for Swift: imagine taking a 53-footer down that road! Charles On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 02:07:40 -0400 "Lou Weinert" writes: > > >From: Charles R Irvin > > >South San Francisco, Industry Way (off Bayshore): didn't remember > to pay [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Mon Aug 13 11:15:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7DFFlP14636 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:15:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:15:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200108131515.f7DFFlZ14632@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Oh NO, Mendo is on fire/ Some more info. Known as the TROUG Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The fire was reported initially about 2:00 On August 8, 2001 as about 50 acres in size and spread rapidly through the brush burning around 3,000 plus acres by 9:30 pm that evening. About 1,436 fire fighters are currently on the scene, plus eight air tankers and ten helicopters are battling the blaze. The crews are from State and Forest Service units. A Fire Base Camp has been set up at the Stonyford Rodeo grounds. A Type I Interagency Fire Management Team, lead by Incident Commander Don Studebaker, took command of the incident on August 10, 2001 at 6:00 am. The team draws on expertise from federal, state and local fire fighting agencies throughout northern California. Start Time: Around 2:00 pm on August 8, 2001 Start Location: North of Stonyford California Cause of Fire: Under Investigation Area Vegetation: Timber & Brush Acres Burned: 11,350 acres Structures Burned: 10 Residences, 6 Outbuildings/Other Structures Saved: 82 Roads Closed: a. Forest Road 17N50 from the junction of Forest Road 17N09 to its terminus. b. Forest Road 17N21 from the junction of Forest Road 17N09 to its terminus. c. Forest Road 17N21A from the junction of Forest Road 17N21 to its terminus. d. Forest Road 17N21B from the junction of Forest Road 17N21 to its terminus. http://www.r5.fs.fed.us/mendocino/troughfire/maps/exh_a812.gif a. Forest Road 18NO2 west of the Mendocino National Forest boundary to the intersection with Forest Road M3. b. Forest Road M3 from the junction of Forest Road 18N02 and Forest Road M3, to the junction of Forest Road M3 and Forest Road 18N49. c. Forest Road 18N49 from the junction of Forest Road M3 and Forest Road 18N49 to the intersection of Forest Road 18N49 and the boundary between the Upper Lake and Grindstone Ranger Districts. d. Forest Road 17N06 from the intersection with Forest Road 17N87 to Summit Springs Trailhead. e. Forest Road M10 from the intersection with Forest Road 17N87 east to the Mendocino National Forest boundary. f. Forest Road M5 from the intersection with Forest Road M10 to the intersection with Forest Road 17N03. http://www.r5.fs.fed.us/mendocino/troughfire/maps/exh_b812.gif % Contained: 51 % Target Containment: (Currently unknown ) Temperature: Today's temperature: 87-93 Relative Humidity: 17-22% Wind Speeds: 3-8 mph Wind Direction: west Condition of Fire: Fire is predicted to continue its spread into the Snow Mountain Wilderness # of Engines: 53 # of Bulldozers: 10 # of hand crews: 48 # of helicopters: 10 # of air tankers: 5 # of air attacks: 3 # of water tenders: 8 Total # of Personnel: 1436 -Rob From bens Mon Aug 13 13:51:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7DHpEM15059 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:51:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:51:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108131751.f7DHpDi15055@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Tom Gross To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Updates for fires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, handles the flow of resources to major fires that fall in the jurisdiction of the U.S gov't. They have a daily update for all large fires. Not a lot of detail, but you can get an idea of what's going on. You can get your "Six minutes for Safety" update there, too, in case you're headed for the fireline yourself. http://www.nifc.gov/news/sitreprt.pdf You can get a general map of the situation at http://www.nifc.gov/fireinfo/firemap.html, again not a lot of detail. Some useful links from here, though. An update for the Mendocino NF fire is at http://www.fire.r5.fs.fed.us/regionalfirenews.htm. Tom Gross From bens Mon Aug 13 17:36:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7DLaxu15551 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:36:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:36:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108132136.f7DLawL15547@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: Mendo List Subject: NCRC Moab Write Up Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org There's a rather extensive write up of the NCRC trip to Moab in this month's LRW for those of you interested. Flipper also features in an back page spread ... good for flashbacks anyway. Jeremy From bens Mon Aug 13 17:48:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7DLmfw15654 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:48:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:48:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108132148.f7DLmeV15650@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Moab Write Up Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What's on the cover?!? Some of us are dying to know if one of the trucks on the trip made it on front or not! Thanks, Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Mon Aug 13 17:49:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7DLnCm15672 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:49:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:49:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108132149.f7DLnCp15668@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Moab Write Up Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh yes, and I'll look forward to seeing the Flipper photos in print. Ahem. Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Mon Aug 13 19:46:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7DNkVE15788 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:46:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:46:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200108132346.f7DNkUw15784@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Fil F." To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Moab Write Up Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org KC is in the cover i think >From: Jason Pipes >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Re: NCRC Moab Write Up >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 17:48:40 -0400 [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Mon Aug 13 19:53:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7DNrxl15816 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:53:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:53:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108132353.f7DNrxx15812@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Moab Write Up Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ok, another question - where is everyone (Fil, Jermey) getting the latest issue of LRW? Subscription? I checked at Borders and they only have the previous months issue in stock, and in some case just put it out!! Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Mon Aug 13 22:23:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E2Nwq15999 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:23:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:23:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140223.f7E2Nw015995@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: Shipping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Charles, others- Who is a good carrier to go with to ship vehicles? (a heavy one similar to a Mog)? Thanks, Kelly Minnick From bens Mon Aug 13 22:26:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E2Qrq16010 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:26:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:26:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140226.f7E2QqO16006@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Shannon Holland" To: Subject: True police vehicles! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010813/wl/imdf13082001134922a.html Shannon From bens Mon Aug 13 23:56:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E3uBX16156 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:56:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:56:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140356.f7E3uAU16152@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: Mendo List Subject: NCRC Rally Cancelled Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Time to announce the NCRC rally will not be held this year. While it's tempting to say we got burned out the reality is that there's not enough interest at this point. If anyone is particularly interested in it next year or is disappointed it won't be held let me know; at the moment I'm considering putting more time into off road tours of the historical/geological interesting areas of the state instead. Jeremy From bens Tue Aug 14 00:04:21 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E44LB16264 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:04:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:04:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140404.f7E44K016260@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rally Cancelled Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, as I have indicated before, that's too bad. I don't know why more folks didn't show up. Thanks for the efforts in the past. as far as historical tours: Empire Stake mine, Malikoff diggins should rate hi on the list. >Time to announce the NCRC rally will not be held this year. >While it's tempting to say we got burned out the reality is that >there's not enough interest at this point. If anyone is particularly >interested in it next year or is disappointed it won't be held let me >know; at the moment I'm considering putting more time into off road [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" From bens Tue Aug 14 00:18:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E4Ihs17111 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:18:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:18:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140418.f7E4IgO17107@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Young To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Updates for fires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In addition to the links that Tom Gross posted, here is a big, fat JPEG satellite image (691KB): http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Fires/US_California/FSMHSusCA225_N2.jpg Zoom that lens in a bit more, and we could have a nice tool for locating stragglers during the Mendo Rallye. -John Young From bens Tue Aug 14 00:27:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E4RHb17136 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:27:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:27:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140427.f7E4RGW17132@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Shipping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...By air, or by boat? Do 'ya mean the actual carrier, or a freight forwarder? Charles On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:23:58 -0400 "Kelly Minnick" writes: > > Charles, others- > Who is a good carrier to go with to ship vehicles? (a heavy one > similar to a > Mog)? Thanks, [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Tue Aug 14 00:56:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E4ucl17310 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:56:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:56:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140456.f7E4ubj17306@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: NCRC Rally Cancelled Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jeremy, > Time to announce the NCRC rally will not be held this year. > While it's tempting to say we got burned out the reality is that > there's not enough interest at this point. I hadn't responded because I was not able to predict if I would be able to do the rallye this year, much as I'd want to. Bennett, Jessica, dare I say, Deven, and I all had about as much fun last year as we could ever hope to have. I think you did a brilliant job and think it's a shame that there's not overwhelming interest. It was about the best mendo_recce outing since the very early days. I do hope we'll have it again, perhaps next year. Granny From bens Tue Aug 14 01:36:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E5a8j17369 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:36:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:36:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140536.f7E5a8217365@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Updates for fires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...Too bad nearly all the NIMA stuff is classified: you'd be able to see the numbers the stragglers were dialing on their cellphones when trying to call you, to slow down for them! (as well as count the hairs they're pulling out of their heads!) Charles On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:18:42 -0400 John Young writes: > > > In addition to the links that Tom Gross posted, here is a big, fat > JPEG satellite image (691KB): > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Tue Aug 14 01:37:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7E5baY17385 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:37:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:37:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200108140537.f7E5bZQ17381@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rally Cancelled Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org My Gillian is still in the O.R....dunno when she'll be ready to rock. Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Tue Aug 14 10:18:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7EEIWP18249 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:18:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:18:31 -0400 Message-Id: <200108141418.f7EEIVP18245@minbar.fourfold.org> From: LRDino@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #511 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 10 lines filtered. ] Jeremy, What address do I use to mail my membership dues to? I tried your Berkeley address but was returned to me. Thanks, Dino Gomez, 95 5 Speed Disco I From bens Tue Aug 14 10:27:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7EERYv18298 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:27:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:27:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200108141427.f7EERXW18294@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: NCRC Rally Cancelled Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 17 lines filtered. ] Cynthia would love geological tours!!!. Of course she is a little(OK not little) unnavailable right now. 3 months and counting. -Rob From bens Tue Aug 14 11:32:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7EFWNu18493 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:32:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:32:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200108141532.f7EFWMD18489@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "jeanne chung" To: "Mendo" Subject: driving/fog lights on arb bumper Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org sorry if this is a well-discussed topic but i tried to read through the past few months of the mendo digest for info. i think i've gone crossed eyed. i have recently had an arb bumper installed on my DII and, as a result, am left without fog lights. was thinking that i would take the opportunity to get some cool lights installed on the front bumper (replace the fog lights and possibly add auxiliary driving lights). any thoughts on what types of lights are good/better/best/worse, whether i should get combo fog/driving lights, what to avoid, pitfalls in installation or power requirements, etc. any and all input would be greatly appreciated! thx. --------------------------- jeanne chung 415-652-8922 (mobile) jeanne@alum.mit.edu From bens Tue Aug 14 12:32:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7EGWxK18700 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:32:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:32:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108141632.f7EGWxl18696@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rally Cancelled Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I'm sorry to hear that the rally won't be held this year! I had a blast at last years and was realy looking forward to another one this year. I do believe I contacted Jeremy and made mention that Petra and I were most certainly interested. I would be equally as interested in geologic tours of the region as well. With a background in archeaology and almost a minor in geology, I can't seem to get enough rocks and dirt in my life! Thanks, Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Tue Aug 14 13:42:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7EHgnU18839 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:42:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:42:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200108141742.f7EHgmP18835@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re:rough running Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Gran, Did you ever get the rough running Rangy fixed? If so did you ever post to the list what fixed it? I figure whoever offers ideas would like to know if they helped. Cheers, Bob B From bens Wed Aug 15 11:07:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7FF77I21434 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:07:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:07:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108151507.f7FF76O21430@minbar.fourfold.org> From: carl kruger To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Sightings- Jacaranda and the new Mini Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org A couple of sightings- two Fridays ago I saw a RHD series 3 88 with pickup cab top driving in Cupertino. It was mostly lavender - some panels were now blue, but if it wasn't Daniels's old "Jacaranda" I'd be surprised. Nice to see it around, does it live in the South Bay? Also, yesterday while leaving work I saw a flatbed tow truck here on base (Moffett Field Federal Airfield) with a new Mini on the back (silver, no plate) followed by a red "real" Mini, and a white Suburban. They drove to the flight line and parked but I had an appointment and couldn't stick around...I'm not sure if they were there for photography purposes or otherwise. Carl From bens Wed Aug 15 16:36:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7FKaXZ21974 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:36:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:36:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200108152036.f7FKaXi21970@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Tire pressure Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All, thanks for the advice/info on rim widths and 750 16 tires. One more question: What are the pressures people are running front and rear for that tire? Right now I'm about 6 to 8 psi above Rovers reccommended pressures for an 88 RR (28/42 I think). It feels OK but I worry about premature wear. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks. Tom 88 RR Durango From bens Wed Aug 15 21:25:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7G1P1422250 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:25:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:25:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108160125.f7G1P1t22246@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Peter Whitbeck To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Good LRO-owned restaurant in Lafayette Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just had dinner at Bo's Barbeque in Lafayette. Food is great, beer selection is amazing -- they have Boddingtons, Guiness + many others. Here's the kicker -- Bo is a Land Rover owner (One of those D-90 special editions in Bronze Green) and he has back issues of LRO and LRM magazine in the restaurant as well as other magazines aimed at collectors of British cars. It's at Mt. Diablo and Brown ave. Sorry, I don't have a street address. Worth going to though. If anyone in the East Bay is ever interested in a lunch meet there let me know. ************** Peter Whitbeck Peter@RailCarAmerica.com http://www.railcaramerica.com/pw/ From bens Wed Aug 15 22:01:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7G21qq22380 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108160201.f7G21pn22376@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: driving/fog lights on arb bumper Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Jeanne, This is sort of like a "what's the best tire" question. Rather than discuss the various merits and negatives I'll just let you know what I've done. Replaced stock headlights with Hella Vision Plus. These are US DOT legal and are a quantum improvement over the stock lights. I know many are going to the euro H-4's which are not technically legal and also should be installed with a relay to protect your wiring harness. On the brush bar, at hood level: 2-PIAA 60 series, 110 watt rectangular fog lights. These are great! Aimed low and generally ahead, slightly angled to the side. By far the most useful of all my aux. lights. Illegal for on highway use. On the roll bar: Outside pair of PIAA 80 Pro 8" round fogs. Angled out quite a way for cornering. Very bright and will tan the neck of the driver ahead of you. Very helpful for switchbacks and rock crawling. Illegal for on highway use. On the roll bar: Inside pair of PIAA 80 Pro 8" round driving lights, not spot lights. Only useful for high speed desert or rally driving. I don't even put them on most of the time. These gems are BRIGHT though. Good for nighttime baseball. The PIAA's have quality glass lenses, metal bodies, excellent wiring harnesses. They are not cheap. Bruce 94 D90 "Spot" w/ 160 amp alternator to power the stadium lights jeanne chung wrote: > sorry if this is a well-discussed topic but i tried to read through the past > few months of the mendo digest for info. i think i've gone crossed eyed. > > i have recently had an arb bumper installed on my DII and, as a result, am > left without fog lights. was thinking that i would take the opportunity to [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 16 01:02:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7G52RK23616 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:02:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:02:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200108160502.f7G52Qu23612@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Tire pressure Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Tom, Try Bob Bernard's method of laying a heavy chalkline across the tread. Drive forward on a flat surface enough to mark the pavement and/or wear the marks more or less off. If the marks wear evenly, you've got the pressures about right. That, of course, is for "normal" driving, whatever that is. For hauling heavy loads or driving hard and fast (nevermind that one), you'll need higher pressures. Off-road, generally, you'll need lower ones. And so forth. Granny From bens Thu Aug 16 13:21:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7GHL6o24453 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:21:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:21:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108161721.f7GHL6c24449@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Royanne Curtin To: , Subject: Re: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #512 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oh that area around North Bloomfield is just too cool. If you're going anywhere in Nevada County you really should try a drive down the Greenhorn River. Ford a river where old grizzled characters still pan for gold around each bend. © > From: owner-mendo_recce-digest@fourfold.org (Mendo_Recce digest:) > Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:16:24 -0400 > To: mendo_recce-digest@fourfold.org > Subject: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #512 [ 293 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 16 16:13:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7GKDdl24791 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:13:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:13:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200108162013.f7GKDdC24787@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: BP deals of the day Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 31 lines filtered. ] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1268D.B59E1A2A charset="iso-8859-1" The other BP has a pretty good deal: four 16" wheels for $199, today only. However, this BP has a sweet deal good today, tomorrow, and most of next week... two 15" Rover wheels (genuine, rare, collectable early '70s issue) mounted with nearly new all terrain tires. Dollars, decent home brew, spare parts or other interesting objects of barter will be considered. I'd throw in a Firenze mountain bike if I had one... Cheers. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1268D.B59E1A2A From bens Thu Aug 16 16:27:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7GKRs124814 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:27:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:27:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108162027.f7GKRrU24810@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Barrie Robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Rover parts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have been given this address as a place that may be interested in afew RR parts. I have the 7 blade viscous fan, engine mounts, a pair of rebuilt Strombergs sitting on intake mani complete with linkages. SD1 fuel injection parts From bens Thu Aug 16 17:40:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7GLePh24961 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:40:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:40:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108162140.f7GLePw24957@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: 7.50R16 tire pressure Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 26 lines filtered. ] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C12699.CF4084B3 charset="iso-8859-1" On my Rovers ('93 D110 with Cooper CTD; '66 109 with Cooper STT) I run them at a whopping 45 PSI. Firms up the ride on the 110; maybe eeks out a bit more road speed on the 109. The 15" tires and wheels come with whatever pressure the buyer wants... Cheers.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C12699.CF4084B3 From bens Thu Aug 16 17:54:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7GLsXx24986 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:54:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:54:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108162154.f7GLsWZ24982@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Tire pressure Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Granny! Tom 88 RR Durango From bens Fri Aug 17 03:37:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7H7bc626562 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 03:37:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 03:37:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200108170737.f7H7bbM26558@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Shipping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was talking about shipping via truck across country... Kelly Minnick From bens Fri Aug 17 10:58:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7HEwdi27937 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:58:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:58:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200108171458.f7HEwcp27933@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Shipping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kelly, I've shipped a few rovers across the country, S.F. to Denver, Denver to Tenn., Denver to L.A., Denver to Chicago... I've used A-B-C auto movers each time. No problems and the cost was less than $1K. In fact it was closer to $750. I don't have the phone # for them handy but they do have a web site. good luck On Friday, August 17, 2001, at 12:37 AM, Kelly Minnick wrote: > > I was talking about shipping via truck across country... > > Kelly Minnick > Russ Wilson From bens Fri Aug 17 11:24:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7HFOBd28003 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:24:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:24:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200108171524.f7HFOA327999@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Shipping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Sorry , I hadn't had my coffee yet... That should read A 2 B Auto movers.... I'm still snooping around my desk for the phone #. On Friday, August 17, 2001, at 07:58 AM, Russ Wilson wrote: > > Kelly, I've shipped a few rovers across the country, S.F. to Denver, > Denver to Tenn., Denver to L.A., Denver to Chicago... I've used > A-B-C auto movers each time. No problems and the cost was less than > $1K. In fact it was closer to $750. I don't have the phone # for [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Russ Wilson From bens Fri Aug 17 12:24:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7HGOxM28123 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:24:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:24:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108171624.f7HGOwE28119@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Christopher H. Dow" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: NCRC Rubicon Trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [Hmmm...I originally sent this to mendo_recce@off-road.com. silly] As those of you who read the NCRC calendar know, the club trip to the Rubicon trail is next weekend, 25-26 August, 2001. The plan is to meet at Loon Lake on the evening of Friday, 24 August 2001, and head out on the trail by 10:00 AM on Saturday, 25 August 2001. We will try to make Buck Island Lake on Saturday night (and probably send someone ahead if it looks like we won't make it in time to claim a camp site). On Sunday morning, we'll head out via the Big Sluice and Cadillac Hill. We'll probably be back on pavement by late afternoon/early evening on Sunday. (*NOTE*: all of these plans can be laid to waste by breakdowns or a large turnout). That leaves us with the choice of driving home or staying in Tahoe. Please let me know if you are interested in sharing a condo on Sunday night. We'll get one based on the number of people who give us serious affirmative responses by Wednesday. As far as communications go, we'll be on CB Channel 7, Ham frequence 146.5 MHz, and FRS chanel 12 privacy 1. Later today, I will send directions to the Mendo list and the people who have sent me email based on the printed calendar, as well as respectfully requesting that our esteemed web mistress post them along with the other information about the trip on the NRCR web site (http://www.norcalrover.org). The Rubicon is a very tough trail. There is high likelihood of vehicle damage even for lifted vehicles with large tyres. A skid plate is highly desirable. If you can't get a skid plate, bring a tie rod, drag link, and ends for both (preferably already assembled). On the recce in July, Ben Mitchell's welder was used three times (!!!). Differential protectors are also a necessity. If you don't have some kind of sill panel replacement/protection, you will almost certainly damage the doors of your vehicle. Lockers make the trail easier, but are not required. Longer-wheelbase vehicles have a harder time on the trail, as well. My lifted 110 was on the recce, and all I can say, is "ouch". I no longer get snide questions asking me if I ever take it off road! The trail can be quite tiring--even in very well-equipped vehicles. If you are in a situation where you can switch drivers, you will probably have a better time. Quite a bit of the damage I have witnessed/experienced on the trail was due more to fatigue than being in a particularly difficult spot. Because of that, I'd like to discourage anyone from either arriving late on Friday night or getting up at oh-dark-thirty on Saturday morning to make the trailhead by 10:00. A good night's sleep is the best protection against fatigue. Having said that, I do want to make sure everyone feels welcome. If you're not that experienced, we can help you through it--as long as: * you understand the above statements about damage * you are prepared to help others help you * you understand that the driver is * *always** responsible--even while being spotted * you bring a good sense of adventure and a positive attitude See you on the trail! C From bens Sat Aug 18 04:45:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7I8jcX30364 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 04:45:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 04:45:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200108180845.f7I8jbw30360@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Shipping Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This is an area where it definately pays to make LOTS of phonecalls! Swift charged something like $6.00 per mile PER CAR! (note - they only moved cars for manufacturers) I happened to give directions to a car hauler tonight...he was showing me some of his paperwork, and there was one car he just moved fro Dallas to L.A. for $1400! I know that Dependable Auto Shippers is somewhere in that price range as well. There's also The Waggoners. Too much liability in that kinda stuff. Charles On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:58:38 -0400 Russ Wilson writes: > > Kelly, I've shipped a few rovers across the country, S.F. to > Denver, > Denver to Tenn., Denver to L.A., Denver to Chicago... I've used > A-B-C auto movers each time. No problems and the cost was less than [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sat Aug 18 05:08:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7I98pS30399 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 05:08:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 05:08:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200108180908.f7I98oL30395@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com, mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Wrecking yards and sightings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I gotta post this before I get some sleep, because this is of some importance to somebody that was asking about late '70's Ford Rancheros: Pick 'N Pull, Jensen Ave., Fresno Ca., (just east of Highway 99) has SIX of them! (that I know of!) They're all in verious states, but they're mostly complete. They also had..... Jaguar XJ6 Jaguar XJ12 (both cars have the "bullet" taillights, so I'd guess Series 3?) - seats gone '70 Midget - complete '77 MGB (wire wheels), cylinder head gone, left wing and rubber front bumper gone, but otherwise complete '74 Alfa Romeo 2000 Spider - COMPLETE!!!!! NO BODY DAMAGE AT ALL!!!!! 1 Volkswagon Scirocco 16-valve - cylinder head gone 1 Sterling 825sl, front wheels gone 1 Porsche 914 1 '65 Pontiac Tempest 1 Rambler American, year unknown - but was early '60's, and had a flathead 6 cylinder engine - complete Didn't look in any other yards, because it was too hot! Other things... Lancaster, two GT-6's Madera, white TR-4A seen several times now, and running each time Turlock, red Lotus Esprit on a car hauler In the parking lot at Pick 'N Pull: lime green '71 Charger, restored, with white vinyl top, and white interior! To paraphrase that saying about Disco: I remember the '70's, I remember white vinyl, and I wish I didn't! Earlier this week in San Bernadino, near what used to be Norton Air Force Base (I STILL can't believe it's closed!): a yard full of AMC AMX's (about 5 or 6 of them!), a couple of Javelin's, and one Gremlin! About a mile from there (I can't remember the street), a lot where I t h i n k I saw a Jag Mk.2... I think that's it... Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Sat Aug 18 13:32:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7IHWpX30765 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:32:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:32:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108181732.f7IHWpY30760@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Leslie Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: WoooHoooo! another Ham! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Congratulate me, for I have passed the Ham Technician exam today and have officially entered a higher level of geekdom! Time to get some pocket protectors! Yippee!!! Now what radio to buy? Any suggestions? Since Chris just bought a portable unit I think I would like a handheld. WoooooHooooo! leslie -- -- Leslie Johnston-Dow, Ph.D. Sr. Staff Engr. Applied Biosystems ldow@apldbio.com 650-638-5104 From bens Sat Aug 18 14:08:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7II86s30816 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:08:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 14:08:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200108181808.f7II85i30812@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: WoooHoooo! another Ham! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Alright! Congrats! I am partial to the Yaesu VX-5R. I've had mine for several years and it's been a great little radio. Good reception, good battery life, etc. Cheers or (official geek-speak) 73, Gerry From bens Sun Aug 19 22:07:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7K27D701457 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:07:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:07:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108200207.f7K27CY01453@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Randy H. Katz" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Droll LR Defender Review from Country Life Magazine Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org MOTORING By James May Country Life Magazine, 26 July 2001 Regular readers will, I hope, remember my deep dislike of recreational off-read driving. Off-roading across deserts and what have you, quite a bit of which I have done, where the 4x4 becomes an essential piece of survival kit like a water bottle, is invigorating stuff. But as a pure hobby I can find little to recommend it. In fact, I would not recommend anything embraced by people with such a fondness for the bobble hat. So far this year I had successfully avoided any off-roading, but then Land Rover, with a promise of a free pair of 'adventure trousers', hoodwinked me into joining something called the Defender Challenge. How I quaked in my loose-fitting intrepid legwear as I surveyed the miles and miles of impenetrable Andalucian countryside stretching away in all directions. A short-wheelbase Defender was provided for the campaign. This model is the Land Rover original, a direct descendant of the 1948 farmyard utility vehicle that spawned the breed. Over the decades several refinements have been made, such as the fitment of a modern five-cylinder diesel, seat upholstery and a radio, but it is still the large-scale Meccano project it always was. It is seen here in what Land Rover calls 'Expedition Spec', festooned with tread plates, jerry cans, powered winches, a deep-water breathing engine, tow ropes, a spade, a pick-axe, hundreds of high powered spotlights and other things that should be made known to Amnesty International. It has a proper transfer gearbox with high and low range, differential locks and no cup holders. It is, I am forced to admit, an amazing machine. The Defender climbed a slope I later fell down on foot. I drove it through a river until the water came up to my knees and my sandwich box floated in the footwell. It crossed gullies and ridges at such extreme angles of dangles that the change fell out of my pockets. I used it to winch a hapless colleague out of the mire and I even drove it into a tree. At the end I just hosed it down inside and out and gave it back. I drove it on the road for three miles, but that was enough to confirm that the Defender is a truly an off-roader, not an urban trinket with occasional off-road capability. The driving position smacks of post-war austerity; it is, as noisy and slow, and through the bends it handles like a Bechstein with a dodgy castor on one leg. If that sort of thing bothers you, Land Rover makes something called the Range Rover. If you are genuinely interested in off-roading, the Defender is the thing. It is an essential piece of purely functional equipment, like a proper tin opener. There are designer tin openers and wall mounted electric ones, but everyone keeps the pressed-steel job in a drawer somewhere. It is quite refreshing in a world where the off-road vehicle has acquired so much sociological baggage. Most are intended to make some sort of lifestyle statement, but this one is bought by the Army. From bens Mon Aug 20 00:32:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7K4Wjk02567 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:32:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:32:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108200432.f7K4Whe02563@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Droll LR Defender Review from Country Life Magazine Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks, Randy, that was most enjoyable! Granny From bens Mon Aug 20 00:44:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7K4iGi02702 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:44:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:44:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200108200444.f7K4iFq02698@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Trip report and spring swap pending Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Here's where I've taken my truck during the past 2 wks: 1) Road trip from Sonoma Co to remote Baja. Nick Baggarly, friends and his Dormobile accompanied. On the return, the Dormobile (fully loaded with gear and a Trail 90) pulled a rolled over Pathfinder out of a gully south of Ensenda. 2) Road trip with my girlfriend to Humboldt Co for redwood camping. Stayed 3 days at Richardson Grove State Park (just south of Garberville). Toured Avenue of Redwoods and made it to Eureka and back to Richardson in one day. Returned to Sonoma Co via HWY 1 (Fort Bragg/Mendocino). These trips were loads of fun except for not being able to select low range while wanting to drive on the shores of the Eel River. Hmmm.... In the next few days I'll be experimenting with some 3 leaf Rocky Mtn Parabolics instead of my existing 4 leafers....as an experiment. Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Cotati, CA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Mon Aug 20 01:27:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7K5RYL02761 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:27:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:27:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200108200527.f7K5RX902757@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com, mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: One down - 8 to go! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks...the Cortina is FINISHED!!!! Today, I finally squezzed the final (BIG) bugs out of Eleanor - new head gasket, water pump, rodded-out radiator, installed recovery bottle (absolutely NO cooling system problems anymore!), new valve stem seals, rebuilt brake master cylinder, installed Halogen headlights(!), and re-timed engine. So now, the car once again goes fast, AND stops! Even put a smile on Alvin's face when I took him for a spin around the block. Still gotta fix the speedo, install new horns, and frons suspension bushings, but at least I'm not worried too much about the possibility of crashing unintentionally into somebody else. Alvin has also permitted me to stop by his place on Tuesday, to pick up a set of SD1 wheel cylinders..... Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Mon Aug 20 02:03:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7K63wH02815 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 02:03:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 02:03:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108200603.f7K63w702811@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Christopher H. Dow" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Christopher H. Dow wrote: >The plan is to meet at Loon Lake on the evening of Friday, 24 August 2001, and head out on the trail by 10:00 AM on Saturday, 25 August 2001. > After some deliberation, I think that 8:00 AM is a better time. This will give us a better chance of getting good accomodations at Buck Island Lake or Spider Lake (Plan B). So, please plan on being ready to roll out of Loon Lake by 8:00 on the 25th. C From bens Mon Aug 20 12:15:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7KGFiH03627 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:15:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:15:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108201615.f7KGFhU03623@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Russ Wilson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: One down - 8 to go! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/enriched; ] [ 24 lines filtered. ] --Apple-Mail-54802886-1 format=flowed; charset=us-ascii On Sunday, August 19, 2001, at 10:27 PM, Charles R Irvin wrote: > > Folks...the Cortina is FINISHED!!!! > So now, the car once again goes fast, AND stops! Next up on the list..?? Russ Wilson --Apple-Mail-54802886-1 From bens Mon Aug 20 15:31:00 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7KJV0o04181 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:31:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:30:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108201930.f7KJUxc04177@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: recce announcement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Petra and I are running a recce to Pyramid Lake, Nevada this coming weekend, August 24th-26th (Fri-Sun). We will be leaving Friday night and will be returning Sunday afternoon. So far 2 other trucks are confirmed and one is pending, for a total of 4 trucks (Casey M, Scott R, Eric S). Recce's are normally smaller affairs and for obvious reasons run "off the record" without annoucements to the larger group, but in this case I thought others might find this exploratory run worth knowing about since it should be a lot of fun and in a really neat area. Please read the following and let me know if you are interested in joining us on this recce! Pyrmaid Lake is an enourmous desert lake about 50 miles north of Reno, Nevada that borders some fantastic regions, including the Black Rock Desert to the north and the Lake Range Mountains to the east. The entire lake is within a Paiute Indian reservation, but travel is largely unrestricted. The lake is up to 300 feet deep, and is home to the rare cui-ui fish and the Lahontan cutthroat trout. The mountains around the lake are populated by antelope and bighorn sheep. Anaho Island in the lake itself is a National Wildlife Refuge and the breeding ground for the largest colony of American white pelicans. There are incredible geologic aspects of the lake as well, including tufa formations that are some of the lake's most distinctive natural features. Tufa is calcium carbonate deposits formed by precipitation over hot springs that form amazing lava-like formations. They are fond all over the shores of the lake. The main direction of our exploration will be to the north and west of Pyramid Lake, outside the reservation. Petra and I will be meeting with Bruce Bonnar sometime this week to look at possible areas to explore - Bruce has traveled in this region extensively and has much to offer on ideas. The offroading will be moderate to intermediate as this is mainly a desert exploration, but there is always the likely chance that we'll encounter more serious terrain or obstacles along the way. We currently have two winches on the trip as well as experienced drivers so there shouldn't be anything we can't work through. Plenty of water and gas are a must, as are a CB, high lift, recovery points, tow straps, medical kit, and light survival gear. It will potentially be very hot during the day and very cold at night, so prepare accordingly for that. I will keep anyone interested in joining us updated on the status of the trip as Friday approaches. Thanks, Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Mon Aug 20 18:59:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7KMxpv05169 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:59:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:59:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200108202259.f7KMxob05165@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Mike Cavender To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Land Rover For Sale Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Howdy.. I've been considering a trip to the UK to buy another series Land Rover, but have decided not to do it.. I've met, via email, and discussed restorations with a small restorer in the UK on and off for several months and I'm really impressed the the quality of work he puts out.. His most recent project is described below.. it's early IIa, (lights in the breakfast).. I've photos .. and he does a great job... I trust him... Having brought a Land Rover back from the UK I know how simple it is to do.. the total cost of shipping, inspections, and related work should be less than $1500 if my previous experience is typical.. I think this is an opportunity for someone to get a really nice right hand drive rover for a good price.. This guy works at a normal job and does this on the side, simply because he loves Rovers, it's not a big business, and he's never exported.. I'm not trying to make anything on this deal, and if anyone is REALLY interested I'll be glad to provide photos, and contact information... This restoration, though a frame off, doesn't include totally rebuilt engines, tranny's etc.. basically this particular vehicle had very low miles, he inspections all the components and if they're in good shape he leaves them alone.. I don't believe there is anyway you get build a comparable Rover here for the price.. the only downside for some are the logistics, (not a big deal) and the RHD, (in my opinion even less of a big deal) If anyone is interested please write me directly rather than using the list... Here's his letter to me... Its been a few weeks but here are some pictures of the completed series IIa. MOT test was the other day and its now got its all important test certificate. Very briefly final spec. is as follows: Body colour Limestone Soft top Blue with side windows Engine Petrol 2 1/4 litre with 3 main Bearings (very,very smooth!!!) Gearbox STD 4 speed IIa gearbox (more sturdy than later synchro type) With OverDrive Gearbox gearbox is amazingly Quiet for Land Rover box, No jumping etc.... Clutch New Borg and beck clutch plate and release bearing and clutch master cylinder. Carb. etc. Rebuilt Zenith carb. New exhaust system,and Fuel tank. Electrical system New Alternator replaces original Dynamo,New Battery (Heavy Duty), Full rewire,Restored dash (back to original spec!) New lights alround and Battery position moved from under seat to under bonnet. Suspension 4 new springs,new bushes and extended military spring shackle plates. Chassis Fully stripped and repaired and repainted red oxide then chassis black. New parts include gearbox crossmember,fuel tank riggers and bulkhead riggers.Rear crossmember is Nato heavy duty type with over-riders. Brakes New master cylinder,New wheel cylinders,new shoes and copper pipes all round + new flexi hose at rear Cooling system New radiator,hoses and Temp guage fiited into std dash layout Tyres 7.50x16 Avon rangemasters at front (new) 7.50x16 Avon rangemaster patterns at rear (nearly new) Interior Modern 1 piece seating (passenger and driver) Tool locker under passenger seat,removable lid on centre box Series III twin speed wiper motor and mechanism,pedal rubbers,mats,and speedo without wobble needle!!!!!! Lots more but this was meant to be a quick Email...... The photos are here if they came through Im going to start advertising in the next couple of weeks the asking price is £3695 (£3995 would include the hard top with the rear top tailgate) restored and resprayed with opening rear windows fitted. From bens Mon Aug 20 19:27:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7KNR4A05305 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:27:04 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:27:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200108202327.f7KNR3U05301@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com Subject: Just as you think the world is your oyster... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks, Tried driving the Cortina today: made it to work just fine (had to pick up some paperwork), and made it to LAX (I did NOT stop there!), though I caught a glimpse of steam coming from underneath the bonnet...made it to Sun Valley to see Ron, and the radiator was near empty! The recovery bottle has a hole in its cap from the steam that wanted out, yet the new head gasket isn't blown. ...am having bad thoughts about a possibly cracked block - MORE fire damage! (no cracks in the cylinder head) Oh well...guess I can go out and get a new battery and drive the Range Rover short distances..... Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Mon Aug 20 19:27:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7KNRKr05316 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:27:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:27:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200108202327.f7KNRJ205312@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: recce announcement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ...YOU BASTARDS! I love that area, and am envious. Gillian has spent time on the east shore (with me, of course). Watch for cows - they like to hang out on the shore, and drink water. Charles On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:30:59 -0400 Jason Pipes writes: > > > Petra and I are running a recce to Pyramid Lake, Nevada this coming > weekend, > August 24th-26th (Fri-Sun). We will be leaving Friday night and will [ 77 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Mon Aug 20 19:50:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7KNog505428 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:50:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:50:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200108202350.f7KNofA05424@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: update - Nevada recce versus NCRC Rubicon... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just a quick mention - the NCRC run Rubicon trip is the same weekend as our planned Nevada recce that I just posted on, the weekend of the 25th and the 26th. Chris Dow has posted to the list on it already. Our posting of the recce for the same weekend wasn't intented to draw away from the Rubicon (and I doubt it will anyway). Keeping in mind that our little recce is in no way an offical NCRC event, we'd love to have anyone join us. I also think the Rubicon will be an awesome event and would suggest for anyone thinking of going to go - provided they have read the points CD listed in his messages! We'd be going too were we not as hesitant to run such a tough trail in our 110. Lastly, more than a few more trucks on our recce will be too many so it might be a good idea to let us know asap if you'd like to take part. Thanks, Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Mon Aug 20 20:00:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L00gl05470 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:00:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:00:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210000.f7L00gj05466@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: WoooHoooo! another Ham! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Congratulations!! I'll go along with Gerry, the VX5R is a great radio. As Chris can attest several VX5R's did yeoman duty on the Rubicon Work Weekend we just completed. Bruce KF6QBF (whose antenna this weekend moved me well up in the geek hierarchy) From bens Mon Aug 20 20:23:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L0Ngb05573 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:23:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:23:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210023.f7L0NgA05569@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: update - Nevada recce versus NCRC Rubicon... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Of course, if you're a masochist as Ben S. is, both venues are only a mere 80 miles apart?.....................where is Ben, anyway? :) Charles On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:50:41 -0400 Jason Pipes writes: > > > Just a quick mention - the NCRC run Rubicon trip is the same weekend > as > our planned Nevada recce that I just posted on, the weekend of the [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Mon Aug 20 20:33:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L0XX905643 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:33:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:33:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210033.f7L0XWQ05639@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: update - Nevada recce versus NCRC Rubicon... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200108210023.f7L0NgA05569@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Of course, if you're a masochist as Ben S. is, both venues are only a > mere 80 miles apart?.....................where is Ben, anyway? In a galaxy far, far away. Ben From bens Mon Aug 20 20:46:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L0k9f05715 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:46:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:46:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210046.f7L0k8N05711@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com, mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Neat stuff! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Forgot to mention a VERY interesting sight on the way back from Ron's shop: heading down I-5 in traffic behind Dodger Stadium, in the left land, there was a Royal Blue Viper GTS with the white stripes down the center, being escorted by a pair of light metallic blue, and Royal blue (both also with white stripes down the centers) 427 Cobras - one of which appeared to be driven by a certain Mr. Shelby!!!!! (most definately real ones) Forgot to mention a sighting alont Highway 17 near Los Gatos on Thursday - a F250 towing a trailer...on the trailer, a project Mercedes 300 Gullwing! (doors were off the car) Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Mon Aug 20 20:48:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L0m2N05728 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:48:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:48:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210048.f7L0m1p05724@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: NCRC Moab Trip in LRW Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just when I was done kicking myself for missing the NCRC Moab trip, LRW shows up in my mail box. And I get to read the article and see the pictures. So I kick myself 4 times as hard. And I'm temped to say "You Bastards!!!" (which for those that don't know me, it means I'm envious. It was my own damn fault for not going.) Well, what happened to me Charles asked? Toward the end of July, just as the money was running out, I got a job offer. And I took it. I'm working for a multi-Bank owned, currancy trading, e-Commerce startup in midtown Manhattan called FX Alliance (www.fxall.com). I packed my things and got the biggest Ryder truck that you could rent. Mom flew down. She drove the Ryder with the dead 101 on a trailer behind the truck and an 88" frame on top of that. I drove the running 101 with the power trailer. Remember the week of 100 degree temps. Yup, that week. The 101 misbehaved (overheating, fuel filter clogging, universal joint dying, fan belt eating--if there is interest, I could post a story), but it got there. Labor Day weekend I'm flying back to Texas to get the Black Watch and Dora. So I'm living in NJ with my parents and commuting into the City. You can't beat the rent (which means more money for Rover parts). And at least there are more Rover events on the East than there were in Texas. I still miss the NCRC events and hope to get back west for more than just Mendo VIII in the next year... Is NJ a final desitination for me? I dunno. I've been moving around so much it seems likely that in a year or two the wind will blow me somewhere else. I was trying to get back to California this time, but it just couldn't make it work with this economy. Meanwhile I'm getting damn sick of moving all of this stuff. New contact info for me is: 115 Lafayette Ave. Chatham, NJ 07928 Cell: 512-657-1626 Home: 973-635-7576 Ben From bens Mon Aug 20 20:57:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L0vju05855 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:57:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:57:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210057.f7L0vi105851@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Moab Trip in LRW Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Congrats, Ben! You can't beat a 101 for NYC traffic jams! As an added bonus, you're not too terribly far from the ROAV folks, either. Charles - doing the job interview tomorrow... On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:48:01 -0400 Benjamin Allan Smith writes: > > > Just when I was done kicking myself for missing the NCRC > Moab trip, > LRW shows up in my mail box. And I get to read the article and see [ 57 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Mon Aug 20 22:39:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L2dEL06342 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:39:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:39:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210239.f7L2dDF06338@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Moab Trip in LRW Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200108210057.f7L0vi105851@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Congrats, Ben! You can't beat a 101 for NYC traffic jams! As an added > bonus, you're not too terribly far from the ROAV folks, either. I've been a member of OVLR for the past 7 years. I only made it to the first Mid-Atlantic in 1995. I've been to 5 of the last 7 OVLR Birthday Parties. I plan to make it to the Mid Atlantic, the Stowe British Invasion, and the Winter Romp in the next few months. With all tht goes on out here, too much is mostly parking on the grass with limited (if any) off-roading. Better than nothing. Ben From bens Tue Aug 21 03:26:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L7QoN08745 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:26:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:26:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210726.f7L7Qng08741@minbar.fourfold.org> From: aaron To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Weber Carbs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have located a pierce manifold and have a question about carbs. Of the 32/36 webers there is the dgv, dgav, and the dgev. Does anyone know the differences and will they all fit the manifold? What about changing jets? Is it diy or not? Thanks in advance, Aaron From bens Tue Aug 21 04:49:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L8n8409229 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 04:49:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 04:49:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210849.f7L8n7m09224@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com Subject: Fw: Black Plates A-Go-Go - Assembly Bill 834 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thought I'd pass this on for your info. Charles --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: rfeibusch@loop.com (Richard Feibusch) To: (Recipient list suppressed) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Black Plates A-Go-Go - Assembly Bill 834 Message-ID: OK Gang, Let's send a letter to Gov. Gray Davis about something cool and not about his energy policies!!! You can email Governor Gray Davis and ask him to sign AB 834: mailto: > URGENT LISTER ALERT - Assembly Bill 834 > ------------------------------------------ > Assembly Bill 834, introduced by Assemblyman Mike Brigs, will allow California car owners the option of using vintage-style black & gold licence plates on their pre-1969 classic cars, or pre-1972 classic trucks. This will allow vehicle owners who's original licence plates have been replaced with modern equivillents to purchase plates that are correct in appearance to those issued in the vehicle's year of manufacture. Under existing law, an owner of any vehicle that is a 1962, or older, may use license plates similar to those issued in the model year that the vehicle was manufactured. This bill has been unanimously approved by the state Senate and will soon appear before the Governor. There is very little time to act. If you're intrested in supporting this bill, you can email Governor Gray Davis and ask him to sign AB 834: mailto:governor@governor.ca.gov or fax: 916-445-2841. Also, you can send snail mail to: > Governor Gray Davis > State Capitol bldg. > Sacramento, CA 95814 To learn more about AB 834, visit: http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=ab_834&sess=CUR&hous e=B &site=sen ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Tue Aug 21 04:49:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7L8n8g09228 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 04:49:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 04:49:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200108210849.f7L8n7K09217@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Weber Carbs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Aaron, Yes - you can change the jets yourself, but the question becomes, which jets to use? The 32/36 DFAV type is sourced from Ford Pintos/Mercury Capris with the 2.0 OHC engine. (unless you're buying new) The DGV and DFV series are for racing applications only, and have no emissions devices on them. If you go for a used one, make sure the top cover is flat where it meets the carb body, as does the accelerator pump: I recently rebuilt a 32DFM for my Cortina, and while it's a PITA if you've never touched one before, they're not too bad. One important thing: the main/secondary jets are different sizes! Ramove one side, and replace one side at a time, so you don't mix 'em up. BE WARNED: there are SIX jets in the Weber carb, and still a mixture screw! Each jet is numbered for identification. Bad news: my Haynes/Weber book doesn't show the Land Rover conversion, so I can't give you proper jet numbers, but I'd guess that a Pinto carb off shelf should be okay, if not a bit rich running. Peirce can tell you if you have the correct manifold: 408-842-6667 - this number is 6 years old, so I have no idea if it still works. They are/were also a Weber distributor. Charles On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 03:26:49 -0400 aaron writes: > > I have located a pierce manifold and have a question about carbs. > Of the 32/36 webers there is the dgv, dgav, and the dgev. > Does anyone know the differences and will they all fit the manifold? > What about changing jets? Is it diy or not? [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Tue Aug 21 10:24:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LEOQx10894 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:24:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:24:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211424.f7LEOQh10890@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Cc: "'koly@koly.com'" Subject: FW: D90 for sale... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 39 lines filtered. ] Bob's a good guy and his Defender is in top shape. Would be a great LR for someone. Contact him directly! Cheers, Gerry Elam PHX AZ From bens Tue Aug 21 10:48:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LEmJm11065 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:48:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:48:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211448.f7LEmIb11061@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: FW: D90 for sale... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Looks like someone has installed the Mugele email trimmer. > [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] > [ Included Original Message ] > [ 39 lines filtered. ] >Bob's a good guy and his Defender is in top shape. Would be a great LR for >someone. [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" From bens Tue Aug 21 10:54:21 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LEsLT11097 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:54:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:54:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211454.f7LEsKP11093@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Cc: "'koly@koly.com'" Subject: RE: D90 for sale... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Got trimmed... here's the original e-mail Thanks! Gerry koly [mailto:koly@koly.com] Tuesday, August 21, 2001 12:01 AM AZLRO stat; rro@koan.team.net; rangie-l@www.bigyellowdesign.com D90 for sale... Well, two rovers is just getting to be too much for me... I'm putting the D90 up for sale. Here's an overview: 1995 NAS AA Yellow D90 Soft Top - Trail ready! 79k miles. This truck can do just about anything - makes the trails at moab easy. Loves Mud. Always garaged. 3.9L V8, Manual Transmission. Almost all major service completed at LRNA dealerships... other service completed by qualified/authorized mechanics. Oil changed every 3k with Mobil 1 synthetics, excellently maintained. 1 owner. Loads of accessories - winch, bull bar, tow jaws, sliders, 3 Tops (full soft top w/tinted windows, surrey top, LRNA fiberglass hardtop [rare]), 6 disc changer, etc - too many to list here! - Located in Scottsdale, AZ, U.S. Asking price: $31,000/bo For complete details, visit: http://www.koly.com/d90 If you know anyone interested, have them call me or send me an e-mail. 480-502-8011 koly@koly.com From bens Tue Aug 21 12:47:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LGl7i11710 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:47:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:47:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211647.f7LGl6c11706@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Weber Carbs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Peirce can tell you if you have the correct manifold: 408-842-6667 - this > number is 6 years old, so I have no idea if it still works. They are/were > also a Weber distributor. > > Charles Still are a Weber parts dealer http://www.piercemanifolds.com/ The Weber they sell for the Rover is a DGV and has 135 secondary 140 primary jet. Think the air correctors were .050 and .055. Don't remember the idle jets. Pete From bens Tue Aug 21 12:56:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LGuaa11764 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:56:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:56:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211656.f7LGuZ011760@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: Mendo list Subject: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I know vacuum leaks make for rough idling, but do they affect power at high rpms? From bens Tue Aug 21 13:11:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LHBgS11851 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:11:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:11:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211711.f7LHBgY11847@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 13 lines filtered. ] As usual....that depends. :^) If the air velocity is large, and the cross-sectional area of the leak is very small, the flow through the orifice can self-throttle to zero. Maybe someone can elaborate. I got a 70% in fluids. :^( But without going into all the math, vacuum leaks are bad. Verify you don't have any before continuing to try and tune or diagnose, IMHO. -Dave G. From bens Tue Aug 21 13:25:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LHPSh11926 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:25:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:25:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211725.f7LHPRU11922@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Gomes, David wrote: > But without going into all the math, vacuum leaks are bad. Verify you don't > have any before continuing to try and tune or diagnose, IMHO. I have the following symptoms: Inconsistent idle, low power. I can't find a vacuum leak using carb cleaner. Can I verify the presence of one with a vacuum gauge? From bens Tue Aug 21 15:08:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LJ8Su12454 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:08:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:08:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211908.f7LJ8SE12450@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Freeman, Ben" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: FS: '73-S3 88 SW Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I came across a very nice 88 the other week and it's For Sale. If anyone is looking for a S3 88 I can bring it to the Portland ABFM to sell. So if anyone is interested. Just thought I'd pass it along.. Benjamin J. Freeman Site Security Supervisor Weyerhauser Aberdeen Sawmill (360)538-1033x650 From bens Tue Aug 21 15:11:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LJBJE12485 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:11:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:11:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211911.f7LJBIk12481@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Casey McMullen To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: [Re: NCRC Moab Trip in LRW ] Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Benjamin Allan Smith wrote: > > Congrats, Ben! You can't beat a 101 for NYC traffic jams! As an added > > bonus, you're not too terribly far from the ROAV folks, either. > > I've been a member of OVLR for the past 7 years... You should also check out the R.O.V.E.R.S. (Royal Offroad Vehicle Expeditionary and Recreational Society) club based around the Eastern PA, NJ area. I belonged to the group when I lived there and had first gotten my 88. While the off-roading barely compares with the west, they do put together some fun trips and are a great bunch of people. One of the regular trips is to Assateague Island (of pony fame) for some camping and beach running. Their site is www.roversclub.com, or email the President, Tom Bache tbache29248@aol.com, a really nice guy, tell him I sent you. Best of luck, Casey ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 From bens Tue Aug 21 15:36:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LJaIm12623 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:36:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:36:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200108211936.f7LJaI712619@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...Can I verify the presence of one with a vacuum gauge?..." It would be easier to do if you had data from when the truck was running well. A leak would then show as a steady, lower reading on the gage. In the absence of said data, you could remove each line in succession, plugging the ports as you go, and see what changes you could induce in the vacuum gage reading. It might lead you toward a cure. But first I'd make sure all the distributor advance mechanisms are functioning properly. And that you're getting a strong, consistent spark to the cylinders. Lots of problems like you describe come back to something amiss in the ignition system (esp. timing). But you've probably already been through that.... -Dave G. From bens Tue Aug 21 16:16:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LKG3I12902 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:16:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:16:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200108212016.f7LKG2T12898@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Gomes, David wrote: > It would be easier to do if you had data from when the truck was running > well. A leak would then show as a steady, lower reading on the gage. In > the absence of said data, you could remove each line in succession, plugging > the ports as you go, and see what changes you could induce in the vacuum > gage reading. It might lead you toward a cure. I never even had a vacuum gauge until I had this problem. Based on what I have read, the vacuum at idle is not very good, but I don't know if that is due to a vacuum leak or my 7000 ft altitude. Full vacuum here is around 22 inches. > But first I'd make sure all the distributor advance mechanisms are > functioning properly. And that you're getting a strong, consistent spark to > the cylinders. Lots of problems like you describe come back to something > amiss in the ignition system (esp. timing). But you've probably already > been through that.... I have already been through that. Timing, advance, spark. I have even experimented with several different tiing settings. From bens Tue Aug 21 16:43:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LKhGV13078 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:43:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:43:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200108212043.f7LKhGt13074@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...I have already been through that...." Hmm....all your compression readings good and close together? How about valve lift (bad lobe somewhere)? -Dave G. From bens Tue Aug 21 16:54:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LKsJ013147 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:54:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:54:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200108212054.f7LKsJc13143@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Gomes, David wrote: > Hmm....all your compression readings good and close together? How about > valve lift (bad lobe somewhere)? Compression readings are all 122 psi +/- 2 psi. They were all 125 psi +/- 1 two years ago. Camshaft is brand new. From bens Tue Aug 21 18:01:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LM1J313551 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:01:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:01:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200108212201.f7LM1Ip13547@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Keith Shukait To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re:Land Rover for sale in the UK Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mike, As long as his name isn't Gavin Tookey... My dealing with him were very bad, stay away from this guy. Keith 69 Series IIa 109 xMoD From bens Tue Aug 21 19:38:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LNc8X14032 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:38:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:38:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200108212338.f7LNc7H14028@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Rear recovery point Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org After discussion around the camp fire/lantern this weekend I got to questioning the strength of the pintle/2"ball on the back of regent as a recovery point? Specs say it will tow 16000lbs, and can take a vertical load of 3000lbs. WHen I am using it as a recovery point wouldn't the 16000lbs apply to its rating? Is the ball at risk of sheering? -Rob From bens Tue Aug 21 19:49:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7LNnBN14097 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:49:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:49:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200108212349.f7LNnBQ14093@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Rear recovery point Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....Is the ball at risk of sheering?...." IMHO, it's a mis-application of the hardware. It's cheap to add a real recovery point. Let the tow jaw tow and the recovery point recover, and put the risk to bed. But then I've just spent most of the last week doing deep dives on "what-if" scenarios for the FDA so I might be in "super insane ultra conservative" mode right now... :^))) -Dave G. From bens Tue Aug 21 20:09:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7M094x14195 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:09:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:09:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200108220009.f7M094s14191@minbar.fourfold.org> From: FHY To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rear recovery point Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "Kerner, Rob" wrote: > ... I got to > questioning the strength of the pintle/2"ball on the back of regent as a > recovery point? Specs say it will tow 16000lbs, and can take a vertical > load of 3000lbs. WHen I am using it as a recovery point wouldn't the > 16000lbs apply to its rating? Is the ball at risk of sheering? This assumes that the load will stay horizontal. Many times during recovery the line will move off the horizontal pull and the resulting allowable force could be significantly less (to 3k vertical). I'm not sure what the "ball" looks like - but there could be a slippage issue. Warn sells a receiver shackle bracket that fits into a std class 3 hitch. Frank From bens Tue Aug 21 20:56:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7M0u4U14440 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:56:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:56:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200108220056.f7M0u3714436@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Series transfer box Q Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello, I have this weird condition where (just after gear/transferbox bearing replacements) I can't pull the transfer box Hi/Low lever back into the low range UNLESS I push and physically hold the 4 wheel drive selector down further than it's normal spring loaded condition. It did work during a trip a few weeks back but now it doesn't. The box or levers were never forced and all the external linkage is properly in its place. Has something failed in the transfer and front wheel drive controls? Thanks for any insight on this….. JoeMulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Tue Aug 21 21:43:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7M1hom22834 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:43:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:43:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200108220143.f7M1hnb22830@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rear recovery point Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org the 16000 lb. assumes the trailer is on wheels and not a 16000 lb load I would think. What size is the shank on the ball? Bruce "Kerner, Rob" wrote: > After discussion around the camp fire/lantern this weekend I got to > questioning the strength of the pintle/2"ball on the back of regent as a > recovery point? Specs say it will tow 16000lbs, and can take a vertical > load of 3000lbs. WHen I am using it as a recovery point wouldn't the > 16000lbs apply to its rating? Is the ball at risk of sheering? [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Aug 21 22:05:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7M25Rl22969 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:05:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:05:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200108220205.f7M25Q922965@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Rear recovery point Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The load rating is probably identical in application, as the load rating on aircraft cargo straps: 5000lb capacity is stamped on them, however, this means that it will HOLD 5000lbs in place, and not PULL 5000lbs. I would think that some kind of formula of inertia and static load( mass?) would tell you what kind of load you'd be putting on the hitch. I say static load, because the vehicle being pulled is presumed to be stuck - and not able to roll easily, so it's existing weight would be less than what is initially being pulled until it's free from whatever it's stuck in.....right? I used to have to figure out something like this to calculate proper airspeed when preparing for a (quiet) LAPES run, but it's been a while. Waiting to hear from Karen Sindir on this one... Charles On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:43:49 -0400 "Bruce R. Bonar" writes: > > the 16000 lb. assumes the trailer is on wheels and not a 16000 lb > load I > would think. What size is the shank on the ball? > [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Tue Aug 21 22:25:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7M2PDG23069 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:25:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:25:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108220225.f7M2PCf23065@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: Mendo List Subject: recce announcement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Unfortunately I work this Sat. or I'd go along (it's a spot I'd like to kayak). I've never been but I understand that any camping on Paiute land must be done only with permit acquired at the tribal ranger station, just FYI. Jeremy From bens Wed Aug 22 03:46:57 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7M7kvM25630 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 03:46:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 03:46:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200108220746.f7M7kvP25626@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: recce announcement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >I've never been but I understand that any camping on Paiute land must be >done only with permit acquired at the tribal ranger station, just FYI. That may be although I never needed a permit to camp there. Of course my most recent visit was more than 16 years ago. Gerry From bens Thu Aug 23 00:16:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7N4GD200527 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:16:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:16:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108230416.f7N4GCm00523@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Christopher H. Dow" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, roys4x4@aol.com, blueheron@etheriver.net Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Trip Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Here are the directions for getting to Loon Lake (from the West): Take US 50 from Sacramento At the Pollock Pines exit (after Placerville), zero OD. At 10.71 miles, turn left (North) onto Ice House Road Stay on Ice House road through all its twists and turns. Between 25 and 31 miles into Ice House Road (35.71 and 41.71 total), you'll see Loon Lake on the right side. Look for an NCRC sign at the entrance to one of the camp sites. Safety Note: There will be safety inspections and all items will be checked. The NCRC checklist is: Valid driver's license Proof of insurance Driver able to engage low range Functioning seat belts Hardtop or roll cage Front & rear recovery points * parking brake (3 or 4 clicks to engage) brakes function w/o pumping steering linkage in good condition no excessive play in steering wheel and has equal turns to lock left & right. (* This does *not* mean the eye on a bolt that is on the frame from the factory--that is a tie-down point--not a recovery point). Also, as Eric Cope would say, you should have a fire extinguisher and a first aid kit, as well, but that's not on the inspection worksheet. It's good manners to have your own set of recovery gear. A decent list is: H/D tow strap chain shackles snatch block tree saver leather gloves All this can be obtained from 4 Wheel Parts (Santa Clara & San Jose), and much of it can be obtained from OSH (that's where I got my shackles, chain, and leather gloves). A high-lift jack can come in very handy on the rubicon, as well. OK, enough of the serious stuff. Let's have some fun! C Zero OD at the Pollock Pines exit from US 50 Christopher H. Dow wrote: > [Hmmm...I originally sent this to mendo_recce@off-road.com. silly] > > As those of you who read the NCRC calendar know, the club trip to the > Rubicon trail is next weekend, 25-26 August, 2001. The plan is to meet > at Loon Lake on the evening of Friday, 24 August 2001, and head out on [ 50 additional quoted lines pruned. ] -- Christopher H. Dow Red Jade, Inc. Principal Engineer 720 San Antonio Rd. dow@redjade.com Palo Alto, CA 94303 v: 650 846 9366 f: 650 320 8627 m: 650 704 6918 m: 650 465 3287 From bens Thu Aug 23 02:51:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7N6pDd01399 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:51:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:51:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108230651.f7N6pCD01395@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James- Use 'starting fluid' rather than carb cleaner to find the leak. Works for me! Later, Kelly Minnick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org]On Behalf Of James Howard > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:25 AM > To: 'mendo_recce@fourfold.org' [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 23 02:48:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7N6m3801367 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:48:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:48:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200108230648.f7N6m2p01363@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: '73-S3 88 SW Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What are the particulars? Kelly Minnick From bens Thu Aug 23 09:00:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7ND0RU03083 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:00:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:00:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231300.f7ND0QV03079@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Weber Carbs Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Aaron, The 32/36 DGV is a 2BBL with manual choke. I have one on Sherman (69 2.25) and a 32/36 DGAV on my 72 datsun pickup (77 2.0 engine). The DGAV has an electric automatic choke that only needs one wire to function. Both came from a Bay Area wrecking yard shelf and both function great. I've had them for at least 15 years and still no idea what jet sizes. Sherman is a little rich when floored, but that probably protects the valves a bit. Olivia (65 2.25) has a weber 1BBL. 34ICH? Bob B At 12:26 AM 8/21/2001, you wrote: >I have located a pierce manifold and have a question about carbs. >Of the 32/36 webers there is the dgv, dgav, and the dgev. >Does anyone know the differences and will they all fit the manifold? >What about changing jets? Is it diy or not? >Thanks in advance, [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 23 09:18:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NDI2P03181 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:18:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:18:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231318.f7NDI1Y03177@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Vacuum Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org HI, Vacuum leaks cause lean running, Bad for the valves! One source of leaks is the vac advance diaphragm. Watch the points and suck on hose to it, hold it and watch to see if it holds or slowly slips back. Another is the brake booster if you have one. Disconnect it and plug the hose to test. Bob B At 09:56 AM 8/21/2001, you wrote: >I know vacuum leaks make for rough idling, but do they affect power at >high rpms? From bens Thu Aug 23 09:25:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NDP7U03227 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:25:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:25:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231325.f7NDP6F03223@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Series transfer box Q Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org HI Joe, I would start by removing the inspection cover on top of the transfer box, then watch the rods to see what they are doing when you try to shift and also when you hold down the 4wd rod. I've freed one up with liberal amounts of WD40 when 4wd wouldn't disengage. One is spring loaded and can bind fairly easily. (the one that is released by pressing the 4wd rod down.) Bob B At 05:56 PM 8/21/2001, you wrote: >Hello, >I have this weird condition where (just after >gear/transferbox bearing replacements) I can't pull >the transfer box Hi/Low lever back into the low range >UNLESS I push and physically hold the 4 wheel drive [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 23 10:11:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NEBUV03556 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:11:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:11:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231411.f7NEBT903552@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi all, I have stubby's engine out and will be taking it to a machine shop for inspection and such. In all my Land Rover books, I can't find how to tell a 7:1 from and 8:1 head. Can someone help me? Has anyone on the list had a 7:1 milled to be an 8:1? Was it precisely 0.1 inch to be removed? Are push rods the ONLY parts change? TIA, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" From bens Thu Aug 23 10:33:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NEXVX03672 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:33:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:33:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231433.f7NEXUL03668@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200108231411.f7NEBT903552@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > Has anyone on the list had a 7:1 milled to be an 8:1? Was it > precisely 0.1 inch to be removed? Are push rods the ONLY parts > change? If you mill the head, when you go to put it back on pay special attention to the thermostat housing and the waterpump housing on the block. There are a few slightly different casts on 7:1 heads. I know of one case where after milling the owner attempted to torque the head back down and found that these two housings now interfered and prevented the head gasket from sealing. Milling/filing down the respective housings was also required to make it fit. Ben From bens Thu Aug 23 11:13:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NFDxb03875 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:13:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:13:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231513.f7NFDxg03871@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: Mendo List Subject: Casey McMullen please e-mail Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Casey, Can you send me your mailing address? Your NCRC mail is being returned. Jeremy (jjbartlett@earthlink.net) From bens Thu Aug 23 12:30:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NGUPS04275 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:30:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:30:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231630.f7NGUOl04271@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Mendo/Trough Fire Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Here is a link to the map with the fire perimeter. http://www.r5.fs.fed.us/mendocino/troughfire/maps/perimeter%200818_1300.jpg North of the Hornets nest, around Fouts Springs, with Happy Camp right in the middle of it. I hope the club can get involved in more trail clearing, and reseeding/transplanting. -Rob From bens Thu Aug 23 12:27:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NGR7P04251 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:27:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:27:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231627.f7NGR6P04247@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi John, The head was a newer replacement part and if I recall it has the boss that would be stamped 8 if it is 8-1. But I think it was unstamped so would be 7-1. I had Sherman's head milled .010 to go to 8-1 and did a CC measurement before and after. It calculates to be correct. I also had to grind a bit off the front bottom of the head where it hit the timing cover. If the head is milled, the pushrods are longer than should be. When I did Sherman, I had a set of 1970 stands and rockers and pushrods that I used. I think Stubby has the newer stands. But I can't remember about the pushrods. 7:1 head is 3.700 in thick, chamber volume is 91 cc. 8:1 head is 3.600 in. thick, chamber volume is 75.2 cc 7:1 pushrod length overall, 7.300 in 8:1 pushrod length 7.175 in overall Cheers, Bob B At 07:11 AM 8/23/2001, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I have stubby's engine out and will be taking it to a machine shop >for inspection and such. > [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 23 13:27:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NHR3404570 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:27:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:27:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231727.f7NHR3f04566@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi & Christine" To: Subject: RE: recce announcement Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 17 lines filtered. ] I think it is $10. Christine and I camped there about 5 years ago. Mehdi From bens Thu Aug 23 13:39:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NHd1404635 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:39:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:39:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231739.f7NHd0I04631@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Alright guys.... here we go again. I now have my steel wheels and was about to put on some BFG Trac-edge. Just like five years ago, the tire shops are telling me that the Trac-Edge are no longer available. What heck is this crap? Does anyone know a reliable place to find any. Do we believe them this time? Damn this is frustrating. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take." ~ Adlai Stevenson From bens Thu Aug 23 13:24:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NHOZk04536 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:24:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:24:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231724.f7NHOYt04532@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: "mendo rec list" Subject: Re: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >From BP's wonderful new >website at http://www.britishpacific.com/series/s_tech.html: Thank you thank you. I added that to their FAQ section when I built the pages. It is an abriviated "readers's digest version" extracted from my FAQ head page. TeriAnn Wakeman Marigold Ltd. Santa Cruz, California Web design, site updating, testing webmaster@overlander.net search engine optimization, graphics and more http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html From bens Thu Aug 23 13:07:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NH7x604446 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:07:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:07:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231707.f7NH7wo04442@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, john hess wrote: > In all my Land Rover books, I can't find how to tell a 7:1 from and > 8:1 head. Can someone help me? >From BP's wonderful new website at http://www.britishpacific.com/series/s_tech.html: There are multiple head castings used on the engine over the years. The two standard compression ratios used by Rover are 7:1 and 8:1. The easiest way to determine your head's compression ratio is to look at the top surface between the valve cover and the carburetor. You will see a head bolt located there. On some heads there is a flat rectangular boss under the head bolt that extends towards the carburetor to the edge of the head. If your head does not have this boss it is an early 7:1 compression head. If your head has the boss it is a later casting that came in both 7:1 and 8:1 versions, depending upon the country the car was originally sold in. If the boss has no stamping on the top or a big 7 it is a 7:1 head and was probably originally sold outside the United States. If the head has a large 8 stamped on the top (could look like two '0's) then it is an 8:1 head. From bens Thu Aug 23 13:19:57 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NHJvs04503 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:19:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:19:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231719.f7NHJuJ04499@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: "mendo rec list" Subject: Re: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >In all my Land Rover books, I can't find how to tell a 7:1 from and >8:1 head. Can someone help me? > >Has anyone on the list had a 7:1 milled to be an 8:1? Was it >precisely 0.1 inch to be removed? Are push rods the ONLY parts [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Dear John, I have a web page on the subject in the Frequently Asked Questions section of my web site. http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/LR/FAQ_head.htm To save you the effort I cave copied that page and pasted it below for your reference. -------------------------- QUESTION - How can I tell if my 2-1/4L petrol engine has 7:1 or 8:1 compression? If I have a 7:1 head can I mill it to make an 8:1 head? ANSWER - Look at the center head bolt between the carburetor and the valve cover. The surface of the head under that bolt may look like the other head bolt mounting surfaces or it may be a raised flat surface about 2.5 cm (1 inch) wide that goes between the valve cover and the edge of the head. If the mounting surface under this head bolt looks like the surface under the other head bolts, you have an earlyish 7:1 head. If you have the raised rectangular surface look carefully to see if there is a number stamped on that surface. If there is no number or a 7 stamped there then you have a late 7:1 head. If there is an 8 stamped there (Mine looked like two zeros that were stamped to make an 8) then you have an 8:1 head. Only heads with the raised flat surface that have an 8 stamped on it are factory 8:1 heads. The early heads are all 7:1 and do not have much metal between the water passages and the bottom of the cylinder head. They can not be safely milled to 8:1. You can expect these heads to crack in a short time if milled that much The later head castings are thicker between the bottom head surface and the water jacket. This makes the head less prone to cracking and provides enough metal to mill the head to 8:1 compression. A late 7:1 head can be milled to provide 8:1 compression by milling off 100 thousandths from the head surface. A 7:1 head that has not been shaved is 3.690 inches thick from the bottom surface to the valve cover mating surface. Before milling a head check to see how much may have been removed in the past and subtract that from the 100 thousandths needed to bring the head to 8:1. A 7:1 head can not reliably be milled to 9:1 Raising compression is the easiest way to provide an increase in reliable horsepower across the entire RPM range. Many people have raised the compression of the late 2-1/4L 8:1 head to 9:1 with good results. This should not be done with a 7:1 head. Milling the head changes the rocker arm geometry. The push rods that came with a 7:1 head are 7.300 inches long. The push rods that came with 8:1 heads are 7.175 inches long. When a head is milled from 7:1 compression to 8:1 you should use the 8:1 push rods to correct the rocker arm geometry. If you mill a 8:1 head to 9:1 go to an automotive machine shop and have a shorter set of push rods made up for the engine. There is very little clearance between the underside of the lower thermostat housing and the water pump housing. After resurfacing, ALWAYS check to see that the block's water pump housing is not interfering with the head's lower thermostat housing by laying the head on the block without the head gasket in place. You should be able to freely slide a sheet of paper between the lower thermostat housing and the water pump housing. If the surfaces touch, grind metal off both surfaces. NOTE that the latest heads have metric threads & studs. If you are installing a unknown head into your engine and the bolts do not seem to want to go in easily check to see if they are metric or SAE. Do not force the wrong thread bolt into the threaded holes. Do not retap the holes with different pitch stock dia taps. There will not be enough thread left to hold the bolts into the head and you will ruin the head. If you find that you have a newer metric head and you have SAE bolts and studs there is a head metric bolt kit available from Rover to let you properly mount the head. Also note that latest heads do not have a hole for mounting the cold running sender unit. Head casting numbers car not visible on a fully assembled engine. But if you have an unmounted head that you want to identify, here are the casting numbers. Casting number / Years made / Notes 279962 / 1958 to 1962 / 7:1, cracks easily, can not be safely milled to 8:1 525183 / 1962 to 1967 / 7:1, cracks easily, can not be safely milled to 8:1 568750 / 1967 to 1982 /7:1 and 8:1 More metal between the bottom of the head and the water jackets ERC5899 / 7:1 and 8:1 HRC1303 /latest design / 7:1 and 8:1 Metric threaded holes, no cold running sender mount. TeriAnn Wakeman Marigold Ltd. Santa Cruz, California Web design, site updating, testing webmaster@overlander.net search engine optimization, graphics and more http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html From bens Thu Aug 23 13:47:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NHlh204734 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:47:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:47:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231747.f7NHlh104730@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Jrack Jedges was"Re: Tires" Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Did you spell your name with a "J" when talking to them??? ;-) Yes some of us remember all those old threads......(or at least parts of them...the rest is in old archives...) I had heard some rumor that they are getting scarce everywhere and may not be produced in England even anymore...I think it was the guys over there on one of teh lists that told me that..... good luck! Paul (as my name just doesn't work at all wit a J, I guess I will have to stay away from these great tires!) ;-( on the other hand, there was a Jick Jaggerly if I recall........hmmmmm ;-) John, Jimmy, Jerry, Jeremy?, Jick who else was in the group? fuzzy brain..... --- "G. Mugele" wrote: > > Alright guys.... here we go again. > > I now have my steel wheels and was about to put on some BFG Trac-edge. > [ 16 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Thu Aug 23 14:18:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NIId904897 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:18:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:18:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231818.f7NIIde04893@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: ncrc in lroi? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org did someone mention that the ncrc is the current issue of lroi? i can't find any mention of the club in the issues at my local bookstore. i still haven't seen the lrw article either. -->jeff From bens Thu Aug 23 14:49:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NInsI05046 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:49:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:49:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231849.f7NInsj05042@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Just like five years ago, the tire shops are telling me that the > Trac-Edge are no longer available. What heck is this crap? > > Does anyone know a reliable place to find any. > [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I had read somewhere that the T-E's were going out of production, but don't remember where. BFG has sold of a bunch of it's assets. It is concentrating on the areospace side of the house. www.bfgoodrich.com used to link to the tire stuff. I know that BFG are still being made, that side of the bussiness is no handled by Michelin. www.michelin.com But can't find any bfg tire references on their web site. BFG just redesigned their mud terrains. Along the same lines as the AT redesign 3 years ago. I have seen TEs at one of the british suppliers and one of the tire mail distributors in this country. If you can't find anything more local let me know and I will dig out the magazine adds. Think the US one was National TIre. Pete From bens Thu Aug 23 15:31:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NJV6a05268 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:31:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:31:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231931.f7NJV6905264@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: desert recce update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Last minute desert recce update... We are leaving for Reno tonight, and plan to be in Gerlach, Nevada tomorrow morning sometime. We will be heading towards the Granite Peaks and High Rock Canyon which is actually to the north and the east of Pyramid Lake. We'll be passing through the Black Rock Desert and the Smoke Creek Desert. High Rock Canyon is actually fairly close to Oregon! There is only one place for gas in the entire region - Gerlach, otherwise it's empty and devoid of people. We hope to see lots of wild horses and other wild life. If anyone wants to join us, email me today before 6pm. After 6pm we're leaving and won't be able to hook up with anyone. We'll be on channel 7 in case anyone is in the region!! ;-) I'll post a trip report to Mendo when we get back and provide a longer version with photos for the next issue of the newsletter. Unrelated to the desert recce, we'll be going to the Farallon Islands on Sunday all day to whale and shark watch. A vessel will be taking us to the Island chain and then to the Coppel Bank which is above the continetal shelf! Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Thu Aug 23 15:37:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NJb2805323 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:37:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:37:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108231937.f7NJb1d05319@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Freeman, Ben" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Of interest... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Of those of you who know mw I dabble with some fairly interesting deals some times..Land Rover related of course. I've been offered an opportunity to "possibly" be a dealer for a company who buy's Disco's and Defenders directly from LR in the UK and retro-fits them for bulletproofing and armouered car format's. I know kinda off beat. But hey, why not people who love Land Rover's need protection some as much as say the Queen of England does....yeah sure...lol But in a really wierd way a Shorland might be the cat's meow for somebody. I had a thought of solisiting US police dept's for there need for SWAT cars...or bomb trucks. I know another one of my wild eye'ed idea's. Well just thought I'd share my hair brained idea. Happy Rovering... Benjamin J. Freeman Site Security Supervisor Weyerhaeuser Aberdeen Sawmill (360)538-1033x650 From bens Thu Aug 23 17:06:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NL6tr05808 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:06:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:06:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232106.f7NL6sm05804@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Nick Baggarly" To: Subject: Re: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Try www.tirerack.com. If they can get them, they'll ship them. The cheapest place around. America's Tire and Wheel Works are pretty good at getting tires they don't generally stock. My last set (four years ago) came from Americas Tire. They ordered them from the Reno distribution warehouse. About the same time I bought a set in Calgary. They were in stock at a distribution center in Edmonton and shipped down. Jick ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Mugele" To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Tires > > Alright guys.... here we go again. > > I now have my steel wheels and was about to put on some BFG Trac-edge. > [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 23 17:11:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NLBWf05843 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:11:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:11:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232111.f7NLBWg05839@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Nick Baggarly" To: Subject: Re: desert recce update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Last minute desert recce update... > > We are leaving for Reno tonight, and plan to be in Gerlach, Nevada tomorrow > morning sometime. We will be heading towards the Granite Peaks and High Rock > Canyon which is actually to the north and the east of Pyramid Lake. We'll be > passing through the Black Rock Desert and the Smoke Creek Desert. High Rock > Canyon is actually fairly close to Oregon! There is only one place for gas > in the entire region - Gerlach, otherwise it's empty and devoid of people. > We hope to see lots of wild horses and other wild life. You'll see plenty of people in Gerlach this time of year. With Burning Man starting next week, hundreds of their "Department of Public Works" people are setting up. The roads will be packed on Sunday the 2nd so plan your return accordingly. Nick From bens Thu Aug 23 17:24:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NLOcE05907 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:24:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:24:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232124.f7NLOcI05903@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon J. Harding" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: new overdrive and reconditioned koenig winch FS Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org To those of you also on the PCRC list, sorry for the crosspost. I have a new fairey overdrive in the original box, never been used all tags intact, complete with window decal and manual etc...etc.. for sale. These overdrives are still available new from an outfit called rovers down south in louisiana for $1400 plus shipping. $1400 is the price, and I can make delivery at the field meet in Portland. The price is firm, as I don't really need to sell it and my 109 is set up for the fairey OD and I like having a spare on hand. There are stories going around about new OD's being tested or being developed, but here's one that works, and is ready in the here and now. And if your rig has or had a fairey in it, the swap will take you about 20 minutes if the linkage from your worn out fairey is still there. The fairey on my 109 had ten years of use on it when I rebuilt it last year, so these ODs are in my book, just fine. You just need to watch the oil level, and best to run synthetic oil. Likewise, I have done a very thorough rebuild of a koenig crank drive winch. It is complete except that the dirbag that sold it to me neglected to tell me the cab controls were not included, so it can not be operated from the cab. He neglected to tell me a few other things too.... It was a broken basket case. I completely disassembled it, replaced all bearings and seals, had the case, frame, and other parts blasted, repainted all the steel parts. The clutch is in brand new condition and operates very smoothly. The bull and worm gears are perfect. All new gaskets. New chain and clutch end sprocket. New spicer UJs, drive shaft with slip joint. There is one wart I will tell you about if you are interested. 150 feet of 3/8ths cable, which is probably about 25 feet too much for the drum. I probably have $1600 to $1700 into the winch once one includes cable, drive shafts, machine work, etc. Comes with spare parts like extra (rusty, mung filled) clutch pack, bearings, spare custom made shifter forks, etc, all From bens Thu Aug 23 18:00:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NM0Bn06083 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:00:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:00:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232200.f7NM0AL06076@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: desert recce update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 3:31 PM -0400 8/23/01, Jason Pipes wrote: >Last minute desert recce update... Have a great time. It's really glorious up there this time of year. I hope you have BLM maps or something equal. Good maps of that area can be difficult to locate. >Unrelated to the desert recce, we'll be going to the Farallon Islands on >Sunday all day to whale and shark watch. A vessel will be taking us to the >Island chain and then to the Coppel Bank which is above the continetal >shelf! Do you mean Cordell Bank? That's about 20 miles north of East Farallon, if not...where the heck is Coppel Bank. You should also get to see Black-footed Albatross and at least Tufted Puffin, not to mention all the guillemots, murres and murrelets. You certainly have one great busy weekend in store. BTW they (Point Reyes Bird Observatory staff) won't let you take the 110 off the boat to tour the island. Probably best to leave it at the dock. Have fun. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take." ~ Adlai Stevenson From bens Thu Aug 23 18:23:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NMNBp06204 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:23:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:23:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232223.f7NMNAO06200@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hello, Does anyone know where to purchase one of those old time water bags that people used to hang on the front of their cars? They were made of heavy canvas and the moisture evaporating through the wet material helped keep the water inside cool. Weren't they called "desert coolers"? Thanks, Joe Mulqueen '67 SIIA 109 SW Cotati, CA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Thu Aug 23 18:42:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NMgrh06324 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:42:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:42:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232242.f7NMgr506320@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org National Discount chain, Costco has 235/85/16 TracEdges for around $115. At least that was the price here in Kona, might be cheaper not so close to paradise. Tried to get 7.50/16 from them but that size was N/A from them. Think its still available from other sources, though. Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: "G. Mugele" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: Tires >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:39:00 -0400 [ 19 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Thu Aug 23 18:43:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NMhs806336 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:43:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:43:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232243.f7NMhrX06332@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: ncrc in lroi? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Last time I went to Barnes and Nobles ( @prospect & Saratoga ) They still had the previous issues on the stand, I'd check the date, as they are pretty slow about getting the new ones up . TomW > > > did someone mention that the ncrc is the current issue of lroi? i can't find > any mention of the club in the issues at my local bookstore. i still haven't > seen the lrw article either. -->jeff [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Thu Aug 23 18:48:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NMm4o06365 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:48:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:48:04 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232248.f7NMm4C06361@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon J. Harding" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 90 lines filtered. ] EBAY! they are there all the time. Just type in canvas water bag. I = got one NOS with tag intact for 15-20. Don't use it, instead using the = identical one my father used to hang on teh front of our Travellall on = trips in the Sierras. Note that the longer you soak them, the more = water proof they get. I presoaked mine for a few days before my steens = trip. Left it hanging over the laundry sink - forgot to take it! When = I got home, it was still 2/3 full, after four nights away. there was a = particular brand called a Desert Cooler, Ames Harris Neville made it I = think. There's another brand that was made in portland OR. they are a = nice thing to have. Do flavor the water a little but not bad, like = plastic taste. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any attachments to it are = intended for use only by the addressee(s), and may contain privileged or = confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you = are not authorized to read, print, copy or disseminate this message or = any attachments to it, or to take any action based on them. If you have = received this message in error, please notify me immediately by = telephone at (503) 223-4131, and permanently delete the original and any = copy of this message. Simon J. Harding Attorney at Law Schulte Anderson Downes Aronson & Bittner, P.C. 503.223.4131 sharding@schulte-law.com From bens Thu Aug 23 19:00:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NN0Xl06469 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:00:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:00:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232300.f7NN0XK06465@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Hello, >Does anyone know where to purchase one of those old >time water bags that people used to hang on the front >of their cars? They were made of heavy canvas and the >moisture evaporating through the wet material helped [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Joe, Marin Surplus (on Santa Rosa Ave.) had them years ago. Probably worth a call. Gerry From bens Thu Aug 23 18:59:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NMxu106442 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:59:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:59:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232259.f7NMxti06438@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo Subject: Re: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org They had them at a local hiking/camping store last time I checked. Popular Outdoor Outfitters is the name of the store. Don't know if they have them where you live or not. On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, joe mulqueen wrote: > > Hello, > Does anyone know where to purchase one of those old > time water bags that people used to hang on the front > of their cars? They were made of heavy canvas and the [ 14 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 23 19:14:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NNEB506543 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:14:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:14:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232314.f7NNEBV06539@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon J. Harding" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ application/ms-tnef ] [ 35 lines filtered. ] Forgot to mention: get the old ones, not new: too much plastic (ie., = they have plastic on them; any is too much). Also on the old ones, get = a cork stoppered one, some have a funky metal stopper. From bens Thu Aug 23 19:07:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NN7fR06512 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:07:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:07:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232307.f7NN7eM06508@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: "mendo rec list" Subject: Re: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Hello, >Does anyone know where to purchase one of those old >time water bags that people used to hang on the front >of their cars? I got mine at McGukins hardware in Boulder Co. I have never sen a more complete HW store ever. I understand they ship stuff if you want to ring them up and buy it over the phone. TeriAnn Wakeman Marigold Ltd. Santa Cruz, California Web design, site updating, testing webmaster@overlander.net search engine optimization, graphics and more http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html From bens Thu Aug 23 19:26:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7NNQwB06629 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:26:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:26:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108232326.f7NNQwC06625@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon J. Harding" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ application/ms-tnef ] [ 31 lines filtered. ] There are seven on ebay now. Simon From bens Fri Aug 24 00:13:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7O4DlZ08486 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:13:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:13:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200108240413.f7O4Dkk08482@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Recovery effort formulae Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 24 lines filtered. ] Charles writes: > Waiting to hear from Karen Sindir on this one... Thanks Charles. So I don't reinvent the wheel * (I'm a Lazy Bugger too after all), I have a book on vehicle recovery techniques including various formulae. As soon as I locate it I will post appropriate them with some example scenarios for everyone's consideration. Unfortunately, an ongoing home remodeling project will delay the posting. BTW, what do you folks think about mounting a Lazy Bugger badge in the center (centre )? of a Land Rover steering wheel. Seems like the ideal place, I've been considering it for some time (see * above) for the aesthetics and security. Karen Sindir From bens Fri Aug 24 10:10:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OEAVf11899 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:10:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:10:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241410.f7OEAUq11895@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: cough cough diesel head convention Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org From this mornings Sacramento Bee auto section "Diesel Rally" in Colfax 2nd annual Northern California Diesel rally at Long Ravine campground, 26909 Rollins Lake road, Colfax. Open to all diesel powered pickups and light duty trucks and people interested in them. Reps from Ford and Navstar will be present to answer questions. Seminars, vehicle displays and food for sale. for more info call Ken Eckler 916 924 7035 or www.angelfire.com/ak4/northcaliforniarally/index.html cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" From bens Fri Aug 24 11:15:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OFFrI12212 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:15:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:15:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241515.f7OFFqV12208@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: "LRO list" Subject: Fwd: CANCELED! - PALO ALTO BRITISH MEET Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 08/24 7:42 AM Received: 08/24 8:12 AM From: Richard Feibusch, rfeibusch@loop.com To: morris@autox.team.net CC: riley@autox.team.net British cars list, british-cars@autox.team.net THE 2001 PALO ALTO BRITISH CAR MEET - CANCELED!!! Dear California British car enthusiasts, It is with an extremely heavy heart that we have to inform you that the 23rd Annual Palo Alto British Car Meet, scheduled for Sept. 9th, is being canceled for this year. On August 20th, Caltrans, the California State highway board, informed the City of Palo Alto department of Parks & Recreation that they would be tearing up the El Camino Real and closing off El Camino Park from the street starting Sept. 1st. As the park is backed by railroad tracks and their are no other entrances that could handle 600+ cars or trailers and equipment, there seems no way around the certain chaos and confusion and we have opted for cancellation. There was no way to comfortably use the park and little time to relocate the meet (barely enough time to cancel it!) we have been forced to cancel the Sunday car show. We will be back next year, possibly with a new location. We are truly sorry and hope that you understand this unfortunate turn of events. Please tell all of your British car owning friends so we don't have a bunch of people show up to an empty park. Sincerely, Rick Feibusch & The British Car Meet Staff ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- TeriAnn Wakeman Marigold Ltd. Santa Cruz, California Web design, site updating, testing webmaster@overlander.net search engine optimization, graphics and more http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html From bens Fri Aug 24 12:10:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OGAlq12555 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:10:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:10:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241610.f7OGAlJ12551@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Fwd: CANCELED! - PALO ALTO BRITISH MEET Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hey, the Land Rovers could come in the back way! Dang, I was looking forward to the meet since I won't be at Portland. john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Fri Aug 24 12:51:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OGpsU12814 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:51:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:51:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241651.f7OGprK12810@minbar.fourfold.org> From: carl kruger To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Winch airflow question Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Can anyone who is running a really tall old winch (old Mercury or crank-driven Koenig) have any experience with a hotter running temperature after installing your winch? I have a Koenig crank-driven winch which seems to block a lot of the frontal area in front of the radiator. On my last trip across the central valley, the truck was running very warm, and I am not sure if it was the winch or just the ambient temperature. The truck ran cooler the slower I drove. Any thoughts on a electric fan? Or some aluminum "vanes" to deflect air down to the bottom of the radiator? thanks, Carl Kruger San Jose Ser. 3 88 From bens Fri Aug 24 13:01:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OH1M412874 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:01:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:01:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241701.f7OH1LF12870@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: "mendo rec list" Subject: Re: Winch airflow question Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > >Can anyone who is running a really tall old winch (old Mercury or >crank-driven Koenig) have any experience with a hotter running temperature >after installing your winch? No cooling problems noticed with my Mercury winch. But mine sits low with the drum opwning carved out of the lower 2/3rds of the bumper. >Any thoughts on a electric fan? A pusher can block air flow & a fan seems to be pretty much baggage at freeway speeds. There is always the military jillion blade fan BP sells. > Or some aluminum "vanes" to deflect air >down to the bottom of the radiator? Can you carve into the bumper and mount the winch lower? TeriAnn Wakeman Marigold Ltd. Santa Cruz, California Web design, site updating, testing webmaster@overlander.net search engine optimization, graphics and more http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html From bens Fri Aug 24 13:29:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OHT9s12996 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:29:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:29:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241729.f7OHT8b12992@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon J. Harding" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Winch airflow question Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ application/ms-tnef ] [ 56 lines filtered. ] Karl: I wondered about this too, before I fitted my winch. I have a = koenig crank drive on the front of my sIII 109. When I fitted it I was = doing some prep for a road trip, and so also replaced a hose or two and = renewed my A freeze. Also put in a new skirted type t-stat. Also of = note (maybe), for some reason, I have a ten blade fan. I noticed = normal/cool running, even with significant hill climbs in the ochocos, = strawberrys and on Steens Mt. but when I hit 105 degree temps through = Madras Oregon, My needle went halfway up the operating range from about = 1/3 up the operating range (between the cold and too hot zones, I don't = have a temperature gauge with temp gradients). Prior to that trip most = of my driving w/winch in place was local. With that caveat, I noticed a = slight improvement in temp with the new coolant, t stat, etc. Is = everything else well with your cooling system? From all I udnerstand of = the rover cooling systems, the winch should not cause a problem, but we = don't get temps here like you get. Do you road run your rig with the = winch driveline in place? I do not. Maybe the ten blade fan makes a = difference? Let me know if I can help with more info. Simon Can anyone who is running a really tall old winch (old Mercury or crank-driven Koenig) have any experience with a hotter running = temperature after installing your winch? I have a Koenig crank-driven winch which seems to block a lot of the frontal area in front of the radiator. On = my last trip across the central valley, the truck was running very warm, = and I am not sure if it was the winch or just the ambient temperature. The truck ran cooler the slower I drove. Any thoughts on a electric fan? Or some aluminum "vanes" to deflect air down to the bottom of the radiator? thanks, Carl Kruger San Jose Ser. 3 88 From bens Fri Aug 24 13:37:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OHbav13053 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:37:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:37:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241737.f7OHbZM13049@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Young To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: desert recce update Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Nick said: > You'll see plenty of people in Gerlach this time of year. With Burning Man > starting next week, hundreds of their "Department of Public Works" people > are setting up. The roads will be packed on Sunday the 2nd so plan your > return accordingly. Nick has a very good point. A week from now there's likely to be between 20,000 and 30,000 people on Black Rock Desert, as well as lot's of various types of law enforcement, etc. (who have some pretty cool vehicles themselves). Also, it takes a long time to get up there, even on pavement. You could spend two days getting to Gerlach and back even with only a moderate amount of playing/investigating/recce'ing. High Rock Canyon may be quite a stretch in the time alotted, unless you keep the route fairly direct and perhaps enjoy your obligatory fine dining while in motion. Good luck! John Young From bens Fri Aug 24 14:19:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OIJKS13299 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:19:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:19:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241819.f7OIJJk13295@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Winch airflow question Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Do you road run your rig with the = > winch driveline in place I was wondering the same thing. Before I rebuilt my winch I was unable to get my engine to idle with the driveshaft installed with out turning in the idle screw two full turns. After installing the new bearings in the winch, the drive shaft only sucks about 75-100 rpms from idle. This I believe is what is causing extra work on your engine, and causing the heat increase. If your not running the drive I can't believe the winch is blocking the air flow, but ya never know. I have installed a 16" electric as a pusher. It's 85-90f everyday here, with hi humidity. My engine is running 80c on the highway, 85c low speeds and around town. Hit 95c on a long 1.5 mile low speed (20mph) hill climb (1500 ft elevation gain). The other guys I was with, running stock fans hit the same temp. I am still running rich, and know that this effects engine temp as well. If you are in an area where you do no have to worry about freezing, straight distilled water runs cooler then an AF/H2O mix. From bens Fri Aug 24 14:33:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OIXlg13408 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:33:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:33:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200108241833.f7OIXlc13404@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Fwd: CANCELED! - PALO ALTO BRITISH MEET Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Me too! mayvbe we should have an informal Land-Rover gather ing that day after all? ;-) Elgie is itching to go out and rub elbows with some other rovers.....(THe poor Light Brigade and the african would still have to sit in the driveway being worked on though...) Paul --- john hess wrote: > > Hey, the Land Rovers could come in the back way! > > Dang, I was looking forward to the meet since I won't be at Portland. > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Fri Aug 24 16:05:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OK5wi13911 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:05:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:05:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242005.f7OK5wj13907@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon Matthews" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Range Rovers? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Firstly, let me aplogise if this is the wrong question to ask this group. I have thought about getting a Range Rover for some time and now getting a little more serious. I am thinking about looking for something built around '91, with <90k miles. Now, I will do a relatively small number of miles in the car (5-7k per year). I doubt that it will spend much if any time off-road, but 4WD would be handy for skiing trips. My biggest concern is maintenance cost -- am I risking a huge maintenance burden given the above scenario? Simon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Fri Aug 24 16:24:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OKO2Y13993 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:24:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:24:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242024.f7OKO1x13989@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "...those old time water bags..." I was in Mc Guckins first of the year and they had them then. Old fashioned canvas and cork, just like you like them. Come in two sizes. I think they even had them on their on-line store last time I looked.....just a minute..... YIKES - Don't do a google search for "mcguckins" or you get more than you ever wanted to know about some Idaho FBI standoff! And my favorite thing about google, that little line that says, "did you mean....?" In my case, more often than not, the answer is a humble...yes.... Okay, here you go. http://www.mcguckin.com/store/itemDetail.pl?productID=02401325 They also have a 2-gallon size, but it has a screw-top metal lid some are averse to for some reason.....EMBRACE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION! :^))) -Dave G. From bens Fri Aug 24 17:00:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OL0wA14223 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:00:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:00:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242100.f7OL0vJ14219@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon J. Harding" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ application/ms-tnef ] [ 34 lines filtered. ] a screw-top metal lid some are averse to for some reason.....EMBRACE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION! :^))) [SJH] Heresy. From bens Fri Aug 24 17:09:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OL9Xi14261 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:09:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:09:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242109.f7OL9Wb14257@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "....[SJH] Heresy. ...." :^))) Hey Simon, Wish I had the cash to buy that konig off you. But I'm neck deep in a G-wagen transfer case and brushing up on my Deutch to try and get parts. I don't think the bank acct can handle any neato series accessories. :^( -Dave G. From bens Fri Aug 24 17:24:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OLObd14350 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:24:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:24:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242124.f7OLOaK14346@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Cooper CTD Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Tom! CHeers John Thomas Joyner wrote: > John said - "Interesting about the CTD being phased out -- I'll have to try > something else!" > > Another local tire shop has a line called Mastercraft which according to the > sales/install guy are Coopers re-badged. He quoted me $145/ea. out the door [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 24 17:33:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OLXps14422 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:33:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:33:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242133.f7OLXpq14418@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >"...those old time water bags..." >Okay, here you go. >http://www.mcguckin.com/store/itemDetail.pl?productID=02401325 Cool... and they have it pictured hanging from the front bumper of what appears to be a 1937 Cord 810. Either that or a really good replica. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take." ~ Adlai Stevenson From bens Fri Aug 24 17:33:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OLXfZ14411 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:33:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:33:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242133.f7OLXfw14407@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rovers? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All Land Rover products built to date have large maintenance costs relative to other vehicles IMHO Cheers John Simon Matthews wrote: > Firstly, let me aplogise if this is the wrong question to ask this group. > > I have thought about getting a Range Rover for some time and now getting a > little more serious. I am thinking about looking for something built around > '91, with <90k miles. [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 24 17:38:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OLcUl14502 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:38:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:38:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242138.f7OLcTX14498@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon J. Harding" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 68 lines filtered. ] Let me know if you have the coin later. I don't think I'm gonna get any = takers, but its worth the price and I have a feeling I'll regret selling = it!! But I want that Cummins!!!! From bens Fri Aug 24 17:38:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OLcg914516 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:38:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:38:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242138.f7OLcf114512@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry -- THey are still listed on the BFG website under commercial tires -- try this link http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/catalog/trac_edge.html Cheers John "G. Mugele" wrote: > Alright guys.... here we go again. > > I now have my steel wheels and was about to put on some BFG Trac-edge. > > Just like five years ago, the tire shops are telling me that the [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 24 17:35:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OLZ9q14448 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:35:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:35:08 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242135.f7OLZ8Z14444@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry -- You might try telling them to look under "Commercial" tires. I was thinking of getting a set too, with the reported demise of CTDs, so let me know what you find out! Cheers John > Alright guys.... here we go again. > > I now have my steel wheels and was about to put on some BFG Trac-edge. > > Just like five years ago, the tire shops are telling me that the [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 24 17:42:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OLgpc14566 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:42:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:42:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242142.f7OLgoq14562@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ Included Original Message ] [ 26 lines filtered. ] That's too bad about the track edges, and the Cooper CTD's. I really like the CTD's on the Rangie. Here is a little less aggressive tire. http://www.dunloptire.com/products/tire.html?tire=radial_rover_rt From bens Fri Aug 24 17:47:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OLlYQ14601 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:47:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:47:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242147.f7OLlXT14597@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: Galvanizers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It seems there is a request at least once a month or so for names of galvanizers. Here's a handy website that lists galvanizers and the size of there kettles, in case you want to galvanize your whole frame (or truck). http://www.galvanizeit.org/members/members.htm Bruce From bens Fri Aug 24 18:02:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OM2mu14679 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:02:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:02:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242202.f7OM2lm14675@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 5:35 PM -0400 8/24/01, John Brabyn wrote: >\You might try telling them to look under "Commercial" tires. I was >thinking of getting a set too, with the reported demise of CTDs, so let me >know what you find out! > I've been on it all day and no one seems to want to admit having any Trac-edges anywhere. I called Michelin (current owners of BFG) and whined at them about the situation. I finally got someone to admit that the reason they've been discontinued is that there is a replacement tire. They insist that it's out already. However there is no information on the new tire anywhere. The website still lists the Trac-edge and the dealers I talked to all claim that they've never heard of it and can't get it even when I gave them the stock number. Michelin is snail mailing me a write-up and brochure on the new tire. They say that it is intended for the same niche as the Trac-edge but is a huge improvement. 'uh-huh.... So I'll just hold my breath believing every word until I get 'em. When I reach a proper shade of Marine Blue firmly but carefully poke me in the sternum. I did check out the Mastercraft website and their tires look like a pretty good match for the Coopers. If anyone comes across a warehouse full of Trac Edges or Cooper CTDs please lemme know. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "In America, anyone can become president. That's one of the risks you take." ~ Adlai Stevenson From bens Fri Aug 24 18:11:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7OMBtU14754 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:11:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 18:11:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242211.f7OMBqQ14750@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gomes, David" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Cc: "Bradt, Ralph" , Dana.Jensen Subject: A washer story Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Someone on RRO and D-90 lists please forward, I can't access now. In my quest to obtain new tab washers for the hub nuts on my '92 Rangie, I was very clear with the supplier, that I needed the washer that is located BETWEEN the nuts, in the picture on the 'fiche and in the parts catalog. I had been just as clear in my description to another supplier a year or so ago when I tried to get some for my '98 Disco. Both times I got, not the washer BETWEEN the nuts, but the one BEHIND the inner nut. Most of you know, they are not interchangeable. I began to suspect something was rotten in the state of Denmark. (or rather Solihull) Since I need the washers tomorrow, and even more than that I needed a break from this day from hell at work, I decided to head up to LR Flatirons and buy the parts over the counter. When I related the above story to the intrepid Charlie Haigh, he confirmed my suspicions with a few succinct words.... "Oh yeah, the parts book's wrong. I know it, and now you know it. But not many other people do." So next time you try to order the tab washer that you bend over to lock the hub nuts on your LR coiler, ask your friendly stockist to look at his parts book. Ask him if the numbers "4" and "5" on the exploded view diagram of the hub have been crossed out and reversed. If they haven't been, ask him to do it before he looks up the part you're asking for. That is all. I'm going home now. :^) Dave G. From bens Fri Aug 24 19:26:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7ONQdk15139 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:26:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:26:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242326.f7ONQdv15135@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Tires Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks for the info Gerry -- Please do let us know when you find out anything more!! Best wishes John "G. Mugele" wrote: > At 5:35 PM -0400 8/24/01, John Brabyn wrote: > >\You might try telling them to look under "Commercial" tires. I was > >thinking of getting a set too, with the reported demise of CTDs, so let me > >know what you find out! > > [ 31 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 24 19:34:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7ONYnm15181 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:34:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:34:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242334.f7ONYnA15177@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Jim Hall" To: "Gomes, David" Cc: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: A washer story Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org And since I believe the series have the same size hub nut as the other Rovers, a Scout tab washer will fit exactly, and can probably be bought at any parts store, or in Grant, for those who are closer. Gomes, David wrote: > > Someone on RRO and D-90 lists please forward, I can't access now. > > In my quest to obtain new tab washers for the hub nuts on my '92 Rangie, I > was very clear with the supplier, that I needed the washer that is located [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] -- Jim Hall 1966 88" Elephant Chaser http://www.users.qwest.net/~jimfoo "You know, I never really damaged my Rover 'till I started wheeling with Jim." Mitch Stockdale From bens Fri Aug 24 19:40:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7ONeP215233 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:40:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:40:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242340.f7ONeOb15229@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: A washer story Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200108242334.f7ONYnA15177@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > And since I believe the series have the same size hub nut as the other > Rovers, a Scout tab washer will fit exactly, and can probably be bought > at any parts store, or in Grant, for those who are closer. While the hub nut sizes are the same for my Disco and for the Series, the lock tab washer is slightly different. The series one as a tab that fits into a groove on the stub axle. On the Disco the washer hole has a flat section that fits on a flat on the stub axle. So instead of milling a few mm deep slot they just milled it flat. Ben From bens Fri Aug 24 19:48:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7ONmMP15284 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:48:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:48:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242348.f7ONmLX15280@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Simon J. Harding" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: unsubscribe mendo_recce Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Unsubscribe mendo_recce From bens Fri Aug 24 19:58:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7ONwbQ15348 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:58:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:58:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200108242358.f7ONwaQ15344@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: Mendo list Subject: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kelly got accepted to an MBA program, and wants to buy a laptop computer to use. I was wondering what kinds of experiences you all have had with different brands. Our most important criteria are it has to be a Windoze machine (for compatibility with what the school uses), it has to be reliable, and the customer support has to be reasonable. I work with Gateway and IBM laptops at work. The Gateways have had problems, and their customer support has been miserable. The IBMs have had zero problems, and therefore I have no idea what their customer support is like. Any insights are greatly appreciated. LR content: We will finally be able to have all those topos on CD on the trail. What would be a good program of that nature? From bens Fri Aug 24 20:13:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P0Dxe15433 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:13:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:13:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250013.f7P0Dww15429@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: Mendo list Subject: Re: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org my boss also has had good experiences with IBM laptops. his latest experience with Dell has not made him a fan of them. FYI, a collaborator upstairs has a 500 mHZ G3 (yes, Mac) that runs softwindows or some such emulation so he can use data from his very expensive EPR machine on a mac. he is very impressed with the box, and the windows emulation. I have to say that it's very strange to see the start bar on a window in a mac, and see him go between the mac os and windows, but for him, it's been good. On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, James Howard wrote: > > > Kelly got accepted to an MBA program, and wants to buy a laptop computer > to use. I was wondering what kinds of experiences you all have had with > different brands. Our most important criteria are it has to be a [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] john hess, Davis, California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Dormie web pages at http://dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/startpoint.html From bens Fri Aug 24 20:46:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P0kHp15606 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:46:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:46:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250046.f7P0kHZ15602@minbar.fourfold.org> From: StevHutch@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Subject: Wrecking yards and sightings... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 15 lines filtered. ] Charles: I bet you could start a fairly popular web site if you put this 'Man-on-ground' Seen in ______ Junkyard on a site on the Net. I could see it now, people eagerly awaiting your latest discoveries...add some digital photos and it would rock. Too bad the Dotcom idea investment craziness is all over ...Heh. Keep up the good work! - Steve 'dirty fingernails' Hutchins From bens Fri Aug 24 21:13:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P1DbT15737 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:13:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:13:36 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250113.f7P1DaD15733@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Clarke Williams To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org TeriAnn's got the right answer. I bought one last winter passing through McGukins. Amazing store. I think they are also on the Internet. BTW, the new ones still use the old cork stopper. Clarke At 07:07 PM 23-08-01 -0400, you wrote: > >>Hello, >>Does anyone know where to purchase one of those old >>time water bags that people used to hang on the front >>of their cars? [ 13 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 24 21:23:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P1NC915805 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:23:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:23:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250123.f7P1NC915801@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Zaxcoinc@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: "desert cooler"? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 18 lines filtered. ] > a screw-top metal lid some are > averse to for some reason.....EMBRACE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION! :^))) > > [SJH] Heresy. > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Actually, we embrace only a portion of the industrial revolution, kinda like the differences between Amish, and Mennonites. Haven't been to Amish country, but I have envied the looks of the Mennonite farms here in California. When the industrial revolution fails, and gas is not available, we'll run our Series on distilled grain, and wood. That's when the electrickery guys will be really envious. Zack From bens Fri Aug 24 22:19:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P2JAM16115 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:19:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:19:10 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250219.f7P2JAT16111@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org You meant mill off .100", right? Later, Kelly Minnick From bens Fri Aug 24 22:06:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P26Ms16061 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:06:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:06:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250206.f7P26M616057@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Galvanizers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Bruce! Is there a site like this for people who do chrome? Later, Kelly Minnick From bens Fri Aug 24 23:19:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P3JMk16415 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:19:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:19:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250319.f7P3JLd16411@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Kelly got accepted to an MBA program, and wants to buy a laptop computer > to use. I was wondering what kinds of experiences you all have had with > different brands. Our most important criteria are it has to be a > Windoze machine (for compatibility with what the school uses), it has > to be reliable, and the customer support has to be reasonable. I work [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Compaq are crap..would never spend a dime on them again. Sony Vaio is awsome. Got the fx270 a couple of weeks ago. Thing is awsome. Picked up a IBM t-21 in January. Another great machine. Hard drive went out on the IBM about a month ago. Sent it back in and IBM claimed the replacement wasn't under warrenty. Kinda ticked me off. Pite From bens Fri Aug 24 23:27:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P3RpI16471 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:27:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:27:50 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250327.f7P3RoC16467@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Forgot, Dells are ok. Heavier then the Sony and IBM lighter then the Compaq. Screens are much clearer on the IBM and Sony. Sony had the best speakers. Sony and Dell had the cabability for dual batteries. IBM and Sony both have DVD/CD-RWs All four have internal USBs. Sony has 2 USBs, firewire port and TV out port. On a stright up comparison of like processor, like memory Sony was less expensive then the IBM. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Peter" To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 17:19 Subject: Re: Laptops > > > Kelly got accepted to an MBA program, and wants to buy a laptop computer > > to use. I was wondering what kinds of experiences you all have had with > > different brands. Our most important criteria are it has to be a > > Windoze machine (for compatibility with what the school uses), it has [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] awsome. > Picked up a IBM t-21 in January. Another great machine. Hard drive went > out on the IBM about a month ago. Sent it back in and IBM claimed the > replacement wasn't under warrenty. Kinda ticked me off. > > Pite [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 24 23:56:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P3uRA16606 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:56:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:56:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250356.f7P3uQa16602@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Pascal Schuback" To: Subject: Re: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just adding my 2 cents. I have recently boughten over 6 laptops from dell and a crap load of desktops from them as well. I have been busy doing 2000 server installs and networks. The dells have been great. Great reliability and great service. The options are great. Build the machine that you want. They have all the capabilities that a sony or ibm has. es you can get a dvd/cdrw, dual batteries, firewire, 2 usbs, tv out port and other goodies. Just go in and build the the system that you want. I won't buy anything else! Just my 2 cents ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hope Peter" To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Laptops > > Forgot, Dells are ok. Heavier then the Sony and IBM lighter then the > Compaq. Screens are much clearer on the IBM and Sony. Sony had the best > speakers. > Sony and Dell had the cabability for dual batteries. IBM and Sony both have > DVD/CD-RWs > All four have internal USBs. Sony has 2 USBs, firewire port and TV out > port. On a stright up comparison of like processor, like memory Sony was > less expensive then the IBM. > Pete [ 9 additional quoted lines pruned. ] computer > > > to use. I was wondering what kinds of experiences you all have had with > > > different brands. Our most important criteria are it has to be a > > > Windoze machine (for compatibility with what the school uses), it has > [ 5 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > awsome. > > Picked up a IBM t-21 in January. Another great machine. Hard drive went > > out on the IBM about a month ago. Sent it back in and IBM claimed the > > replacement wasn't under warrenty. Kinda ticked me off. > > > > Pite > [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Sat Aug 25 00:20:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P4KIO17641 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:20:18 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:20:17 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250420.f7P4KHC17637@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Range Rovers? Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Simon Matthews is pondering looking for a Range Rover, built around '91, with <90k miles and asked: > My biggest concern is maintenance cost -- am I risking a huge maintenance > burden given the above scenario? Almost certainly: Yes. I have a '92 RR County that I've had for four years (after owning many Series Land-Rovers over the years). I've used it (all too infrequently) hard off-road (where it works very well indeed), looked very cool-about-to-leave-on-safari-any-minute having it as my daily driver, and spent many $$$ on it. If you've wanted one badly, ever since they were first introduced in 1970 (as I have), then, by all means, get it out of your system and buy one. I did. It's nearly sent me to the poor house. I've tried to convince myself to get rid of it and get something sensible (whatever that might be) but--alas--cannot. I'm addicted to the damned thing. The thing I hate to love! Granny From bens Sat Aug 25 02:46:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P6ktK18425 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 02:46:55 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 02:46:54 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250646.f7P6ksL18421@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: tranny coming out (again) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Bob, thanks for idea...... I removed the transfer case top cover and also the formed cover that protects the rods at the front of the output case. It's hard to explain, but it appears the internal linkage will not pivot around the internal gizmo that is secured when the 4 wheel drive knob is UP.....which is what is supposed to happen when the knob is UP and the hi/low lever is pulled all the way back. Because it worked before, the assumption is that something has jammed or broken..... This will be the third tranny removal this summer. First time - to have all brgs, thrust washers & seals replaced. Second time - (a few days after getting it all back into the vehicle) was to replace the mispackaged Borg&Beck disc that was not suitable for a 2A tranny. Third time - Right friggin now! JFMulqueen (to be ready for Sept's Niagra Run) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:25:06 -0400 From: Bob & Sue Bernard Subject: Re: Series transfer box Q HI Joe, I would start by removing the inspection cover on top of the transfer box,then watch the rods to see what they are doing when you try to shift and also when you hold down the 4wd rod. I've freed one up with liberal amounts of WD40 when 4wd wouldn't disengage. One is spring loaded and can bind fairly easily. (the one that is released by pressing the 4wd rod down.) Bob B At 05:56 PM 8/21/2001, you wrote: Hello, I have this weird condition where (just after gear/transferbox bearing replacements) I can't pull the transfer box Hi/Low lever back into the low range UNLESS I push and physically hold the 4 wheel drive [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Aug 25 03:27:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7P7Rj118620 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 03:27:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 03:27:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200108250727.f7P7Rjw18616@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi & Christine" To: Subject: Air Compressor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks I am in a market for an air compressor, any recommendation? What brand and where to go and how much expect to pay? Thanks Mehdi From bens Sat Aug 25 11:12:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PFCSP20625 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:12:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:12:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200108251512.f7PFCRS20621@minbar.fourfold.org> From: john hess To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Joe, Now that your an expert, are you pulling the tranny out from below or from above? Since Stubby's engine is gone I am going to pull the tranny and xfer case. They work fine but leak bad, so I figure a good cleaning, partial disassembly and new seals are in order. I have not looked at the parts book to see exactly what I'm getting into because I gave the book to the machine shop just incase they wanted to see sizes, torques and such. I also have this nagging memory that Stubby doesn't have greasable u joints, so I will change that. last thing: you have parabolics? we talked at Mendo about the rear end being jacked up? I just saw Rob Kerner's 88 and he has a bit of a lifted rear end. I think he has 3 leaf parabolics in the rear. Is the extra lift a constant with parabolics? Are the same shocks used? or are ones with longer extensions specified? cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Land Rover Dormobile web pages: http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~jfhess/homepage.html 1968 Land Rover Dormobile "Elvis" 1960 Land Rover 88 PU "Stubby" 1966 Mercury Monterey "Tillie" From bens Sat Aug 25 11:24:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PFO1q20692 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:24:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:24:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200108251524.f7PFO0M20688@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: "mendo rec list" Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >This will be the third tranny removal this summer. Sorry to read that. You have had more than your share of problems. Esp. since you worked so hard & diligently at your complete rebuild. Try just removing the transfer case front piece. Your problem is most likely there. You might be able to get away with less work. It's been about 20 years since I tried but as I recall you can get thee front xfer case section out without dropping the whole xfercase. TeriAnn Wakeman Marigold Ltd. Santa Cruz, California Web design, site updating, testing webmaster@overlander.net search engine optimization, graphics and more http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html From bens Sat Aug 25 13:30:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PHUdU21257 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:30:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:30:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200108251730.f7PHUci21253@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org --- john hess wrote: > last thing: you have parabolics? we talked at Mendo about the rear > end being jacked up? I just saw Rob Kerner's 88 and he has a bit of > a lifted rear end. I think he has 3 leaf parabolics in the rear. Is > the extra lift a constant with parabolics? Are the same shocks used? > or are ones with longer extensions specified? John, I have the rocky mountain two leafers on the rear of Elgie with no problem with the rear being higner than the front as far as I remember......the two leafers are pretty much set for the 88" p-up, so i'd say that's teh way to go..... I still have the couple year old woodhead shocks on it right now..... Paul Archibald '60 88" The African ***********FOR SALE!!!!!!!*************** '66 88" Elgie '95 Disco THe Light Brigade and stuff.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sat Aug 25 13:58:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PHwus21395 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:58:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 13:58:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200108251758.f7PHwts21391@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: riding high. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org All my 88's sit/sat with a lifted rear whether with stock springs or parabolics. Think that is the way an 88 is 'sposed to sit. Personally, wouldn't reccomend three leaf RM's on an 88. The 3 leafers are more than adequate on my 109 regular even with over a 1,000# load. Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: andrew robinson > > last thing: you have parabolics? we talked at Mendo about the rear > > end being jacked up? I just saw Rob Kerner's 88 and he has a bit of > > a lifted rear end. I think he has 3 leaf parabolics in the rear. Is > > the extra lift a constant with parabolics? Are the same shocks used? [ 24 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Sat Aug 25 14:34:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PIYa921601 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:34:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:34:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200108251834.f7PIYZq21597@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Neil Andrews" To: Subject: Trac Edges Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've also heard that BFG Trac-Edges are being replaced by a newer model. I also heard that Ray at Wise Owl bought a large stock of TE's. Don't know how much he is selling them for though. Neil Andrews 1965 SIIA 88" (with BFG Trac Edges) Vancouver, BC From bens Sat Aug 25 14:49:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PInHI21683 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:49:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:49:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200108251849.f7PInGr21679@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Air Compressor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org If you are buying a home quality compressor from a retail outlet, look for at least 5 hp. The larger the tank, the better, but at least 20 gallons, 60 gallons is really nice. Get one with a belt driven compressor, they are way quieter. Cast iron compressor pumps are quieter than Aluminum pumps but tend to be costlier. As far as the brand, the home quality units all look like they are built from the same parts bin. Cursory inspection hasn't shown much, if any external difference to the pieces, just different paint and label. Do not buy an oil less compressor because they are very very noisy. Oh!! If I don't mention it again, the oil-less compressors are VERY NOISY. We have horse power and we have horse power. The old line manufactures have a very conservative way of measuring horsepower. 2 horsepower on a Quincy or Ingersoll Rand are very close to the 5hp compressors advertised by Sears, Coleman, Devilbiss, etc. Check the amperage draw not the horsepower. That will tell you what the output really is. As a for instance, believe Quincy makes a nice 2hp 20 gallon portable unit that has the same amperage draw as the 5hp Sears compressors. Another plus of the Quincy is its a really cool maroon color and runs very quiet. My old home quality Ingersoll compressor was a 2hp and worked very well for my use. Even though it was rated at 2hp by IR, it performed uncannily like the 5hp DeVilbiss, that I borrowed for a short while. The compressors from the big guys like IR are really nice and really expensive. Their smallest compressors typically start at around $800. Not only are the compressor pumps and motors heavy duty, but the tanks are better, also. They also require at least 20 amps and possibly 30 amps at 220volts. Does your garage have the juice to power one of these compressors? Do you need all that fire power in a compressor for occasional home use. Probably not unless you are going to do a lot of sand blasting or other use that requires the pump to be on continuously. I compromised on a $400 Coleman, 6.5hp, 15 amp, 220v, 60 gallon tank, compressor. Doesn't cycle nearly as much as a smaller tank compressor and has the volume/pressure to power all but the most hungry of power tools. Another plus is its stationary. Don't have to worry about it getting 'borrowed'. With a 150' feet of hose, use it as a blower to clean leaves off the driveway. Last but not least. The home compressors don't have a super high quality tank. There have been reports of rusting out from the inside on compressors that have not had the air bled off, when not in use. Release the air pressure after each use. It also drains moisture in the tank and should greatly extend the tank's life. I replaced the PITA stock pet cock with a street elbow a short length of pipe (nipple) and a ball check valve to make releasing the pressure very easy. From experience, found that getting down on my hands and knees and groping under the tank to find the valve, then trying to remember which way it had to be turned to release pressure, always going the wrong way, bruising my fingers in the process, didn't encourage releasing the pressure on a daily basis. The street elbow and nipple also act as a reservoir so small amounts of water don't pool at the bottom of the tank but in the drain pipe. Aloha Peter Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: "Mehdi & Christine" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: >Subject: Air Compressor >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 03:27:45 -0400 [ 7 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Sat Aug 25 15:02:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PJ2fs21769 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:02:41 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:02:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108251902.f7PJ2eQ21765@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Cas Stimson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Land Rovers Start Your Engines Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The NEVADA TROPHY 2002, the U.S. Open of Land Rover Rallies, is scheduled for JANUARY 25-27, 2002 in Lovelock, NV. and is NOW TAKING ENTRIES. Last year's rally was by far the best in the event's six year history! Range Rovers, Discoveries, Defenders and Series Land Rovers danced their way through mud, snow and dirt in their quest for strategically placed way points. Everyone had a great time from first time off roaders to past Camel Trophy competitors. Like last year, the event will be held at the Ramada Inn in Lovelock, NV. That proved to be an excellent location allowing the competitors to get to know each other and share their tales of heroism after each day's event. Wayne Vannorsdall & Ron Dombroski have won twice, including 2001... can YOU beat them? Those not familiar with the event, the Nevada Trophy is limited to Land Rovers (Series, Defenders, Discoveries and Range Rovers). It is primarily a navigational event - with obstacle courses thrown in - that takes place in the beautiful and desolate northwest portion of Nevada. It tests your off road savvy, endurance and navigational skills. It is a blast for all levels of four wheelers. All you need to participate is a Land Rover, GPS, a good friend and a desire to have a great time! Day-1 will start with convoy to a Special Task area. Special Tasks will begin the event, once YOU have completed this you will be issued your navigation book for the day. You'll be given 14-hours to complete the book. Day-2 will begin early, thus getting everyone back to the hotel early to relax (have dinner, tell stories, etc.). You'll gain have 14-hours to complete the book. Day-3 (Sunday) will open with Breakfast then awards at the host hotel. To be part of this great event you can contact the organizers at Off Road Experience (http://www.offroadexperience.com) or fax them at 925-606-8302. See you in Nevada, Cas Stimson Santa Barbara cstimson@gte.net From bens Sat Aug 25 18:55:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PMtu923009 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:55:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:55:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200108252255.f7PMttv23005@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Hope Peter wrote: > All four have internal USBs. Sony has 2 USBs, firewire port and TV out > port. On a stright up comparison of like processor, like memory Sony was > less expensive then the IBM. What is a TV out? So you can use it to watch DVD on your TV? Or use you TV as a big low resolution monitor? From bens Sat Aug 25 19:03:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7PN3gY23050 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 19:03:42 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 19:03:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108252303.f7PN3g723046@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Randy H. Katz" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Palo Alto British Car Meet CANCELLED! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org How disappointing! But those of us who are British car enthusiasts know a thing or two about stuff upper lips (and grease encrusted hands!). A convoy up or down the Coast to a wonderful brunch place like the Pelican Inn at Muir Beach in Marin would be a very nice substitute. Imagine a few dozen rovers crossing the GG Bridge in a slow and majestic convoy! Anyone have a suggestion for a destination and rally route for 8 or 9 September? Randy From bens Sat Aug 25 23:23:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7Q3NGC24245 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 23:23:16 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 23:23:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200108260323.f7Q3NGE24241@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi & Christine" To: Subject: RE: Air Compressor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks Peter. That was very informative. I have to stay with 110V and 20 amps or less. But will look at the amps and go for a bigger tank. Mehdi From bens Sat Aug 25 23:36:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7Q3agS24324 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 23:36:42 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 23:36:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200108260336.f7Q3agE24320@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeremy Bartlett To: Mendo List Subject: 2002 RR Suspension Info Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just a bit of trivia I thought I'd pass on about the replacement Range Rover due out in mid 2002. Apparently it will be fully independent all around using air suspension; however electronic/computer controls will force the suspension to act as a live/beam axle off road. Shoud be interesting. I wonder what the default failure mode will be :) Jeremy From bens Sun Aug 26 03:17:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7Q7HCl26354 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:17:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:17:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200108260717.f7Q7HBH26350@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, if you're opening up the 4 spd, think about new thrust washers. My box now has much less slop in it (even though it shifted/worked fine before). As for me: Since I still have a welded in frame member, the tranny/box will be coming out from above. In some perverse way, I haven't had the heart (guts?) to replace it with a removable piece. Even thought the transfer case linkage always worked before, I thought the rebuilder would have at least opened up that pivot area (which is internal)..... As for pulling the thing apart with the assy in the vehicle,,,,,I've read the teardown process, but I'm not sure how much needs to happen in order to get to what I need.... It would be a nice fix instead of hauling everything back down to SoCal...... As for my parabolics, (2/4 leafers on 109 SW), I'm generally happy with them. I've never had any significant feelings of instability or sudden oversteer - even while trying maneuvers on fast curves and offramps. They are not too soft (at least for my truck). The rear 4 leafers will take alot of weight before the truck levels out. I think I could hide 800 lbs of lead in the back and no one would ever notice......In a couple of weeks I'll be installing my new 3 leafers as an experiment because I never carry that much... As for shocks, since equipped trucks run a little higher, different travel shocks are recommended. Two items regarding the rake issue (not sure about TIconsole): 1) 3 leaf springs on unloaded 88s and 4 leaf springs on unloaded 109s will result in a bit to alot more rake. Some people mind, some don't. 2) Too much rake will decrease steering caster enough to make you aware of it..... As for parabolics on Stubby, I think 3 leafers in the rear would be too hard and too high. Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:12:27 -0400 From: john hess Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) Joe, Now that your an expert, are you pulling the tranny out from below or from above? Since Stubby's engine is gone I am going to pull the tranny and xfer case. They work fine but leak bad, so I figure a good cleaning, partial disassembly and new seals are in order. I have not looked at the parts book to see exactly what I'm getting into because I gave the book to the machine shop just incase they wanted to see sizes, torques and such. I also have this nagging memory that Stubby doesn't have greasable u joints, so I will change that. last thing: you have parabolics? we talked at Mendo about the rear end being jacked up? I just saw Rob Kerner's 88 and he has a bit of a lifted rear end. I think he has 3 leaf parabolics in the rear. Is the extra lift a constant with parabolics? Are the same shocks used? or are ones with longer extensions specified? cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:24:00 -0400 From: TeriAnn Wakeman Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) ……….Try just removing the transfer case front piece. Your problem is most likely there. You might be able to get away with less work. It's been about 20 years since I tried but as I recall you can get thee front xfer case section out without dropping the whole xfercase. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sun Aug 26 03:31:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7Q7Veh26441 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:31:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:31:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200108260731.f7Q7Vdl26437@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: riding high. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Personally, wouldn't reccomend three leaf RM's on an 88. The 3 leafers are > more than adequate on my 109 regular even with over a 1,000# load. > Peter, you have 2 leafers on the rear of the 88? Hows it do when loaded down? I am going to go parabolics also. Dave, Kevin, and now Robert all have parabolics and like em. BTW John H says hi. No huli's today but got over on my side in another mud hole ;-) Pete From bens Sun Aug 26 03:39:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7Q7dUJ26478 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:39:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:39:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200108260739.f7Q7dUP26474@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > All four have internal USBs. Sony has 2 USBs, firewire port and TV out > > port. On a stright up comparison of like processor, like memory Sony was > > less expensive then the IBM. > > What is a TV out? So you can use it to watch DVD on your TV? Or use you > TV as a big low resolution monitor? > Both. With the DVDs the quality is awsome. Low Res monitor..ehck. Would rather just look at the laptop screen, but the DVDs are very good. I have a scan converter for conecting to TVs. works well, tried it with the IBM DVD and it's great quality also. The IBM also has an S-video port. My TV doesn't have one, so never had a chance to use it with that. The sony has a special cord from the laptop to a standard RCA video input on the tv. Another Y cord from the earphone jack to the audio ins. Audio quality this way, through the TV is real good too. Best thing is that if the movie on the plane sucks I always have The Matrix, Gettysburg, and Saving Private Ryan with me as backups. Pete From bens Sun Aug 26 03:51:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7Q7pQ026558 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:51:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:51:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108260751.f7Q7pPl26554@minbar.fourfold.org> From: joe mulqueen To: mendo Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John, if you're opening up the 4 spd, think about new thrust washers. My box now has much less slop in it (even though it shifted/worked fine before). As for me: Since I still have a welded in frame member, the tranny/box will be coming out from above. In some perverse way, I haven't had the heart (guts?) to replace it with a removable piece. Even thought the transfer case linkage always worked before, I thought the rebuilder would have at least opened up that part (which is internal). Alas, a few hours of extra work didn't happen... As for pulling the thing apart with the assy in the vehicle,,,,,I've read the teardown process, but I'm not sure how much needs to happen in order to get to what I need.... It would be a nice fix instead of hauling it back down to SoCal...... As for my parabolics, (2/4 leafers on 109 SW), I'm generally happy with them. I've never had any significant feelings of instability or sudden oversteer - even while trying maneuvers on fast curves and offramps. They are not too soft (at least for my truck). The rear 4 leafers will take alot of weight before the truck levels out. I think I could hide 800 lbs of lead in the back of my truck and no one would ever notice......In a couple of weeks I'll be installing my new 3 leafers as an experiment because I rarely carry that much... As for the shocks, since equipped trucks run a little higher than new conventionals, different travel shocks are recommended. Regarding the rake issue (not sure about TIconsole): 1) 3 leaf springs on unloaded 88s and 4 leaf springs on unloaded 109s will result in a bit to alot more rake. Some people mind some don't. 2) Too much rake will decrease steering caster enough to make you aware of it..... And for Stubby, I think the 3 leafers in the rear would be much too stiff and too high. JoeM Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:12:27 -0400 From: john hess Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) Joe, Now that your an expert, are you pulling the tranny out from below or from above? Since Stubby's engine is gone I am going to pull the tranny and xfer case. They work fine but leak bad, so I figure a good cleaning, partial disassembly and new seals are in order. I have not looked at the parts book to see exactly what I'm getting into because I gave the book to the machine shop just incase they wanted to see sizes, torques and such. I also have this nagging memory that Stubby doesn't have greasable u joints, so I will change that. last thing: you have parabolics? we talked at Mendo about the rear end being jacked up? I just saw Rob Kerner's 88 and he has a bit of a lifted rear end. I think he has 3 leaf parabolics in the rear. Is the extra lift a constant with parabolics? Are the same shocks used? or are ones with longer extensions specified? cheers, John F. Hess, Davis California Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:24:00 -0400 From: TeriAnn Wakeman Subject: Re: tranny coming out (again) ……….Try just removing the transfer case front piece. Your problem is most likely there. You might be able to get away with less work. It's been about 20 years since I tried but as I recall you can get thee front xfer case section out without dropping the whole xfercase. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Sun Aug 26 03:56:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7Q7u7M26594 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:56:07 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:56:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108260756.f7Q7u6v26590@minbar.fourfold.org> From: SFmms@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Cancelled Palo Alto Meet, and (surprise,surprise) Disco woes Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; charset="US-ASCII" ] [ 24 lines filtered. ] Darn we were planning on coming in our '66 SIIa this time too. Land Rover repair question du jour: how does one remove the door panels to gain access to the window mechanism on a '95 Disco? The rear window on the drivers side stopped working today and tried to fall inside the door. The mechanism seems to be broken as the window glass can be raised and lowered by hand with no resistance. How difficult is any repair to the mechanism? I want to do it myself as we have poured too many $$$ into this vehicle already and it never seems to end (only 47,000 miles on it too). BTW another inspection item on these Discos is the pitiful excuse for a heat shield underneath the floor. They are made of reflective coated plastic and crack from vibration. If they fall off the heat from the exhaust system may be sufficient to cook the wiring and electronics under the passenger seat. (We caught ours just in time, thank goodness.) Also the hoses going to the transmission cooler should be inspected regularly as oil leaks from them can cause an engine fire. Karen Sindir From bens Sun Aug 26 04:24:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7Q8Ox026895 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 04:24:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 04:24:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108260824.f7Q8Oxe26891@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: riding high. Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I've got TI Console 2 + helper springs on the 88. They worked fine with 750-1,000 pounds in the back. I don't like stiff springs so was thinking of taking off the helpers for every day use, but Paul strongly reccomended against it. On the 109, with a 1,000 pounds of fertilizer aft of the axle, the truck sits just about level and rides like a dream with 3 leaf RM's. Think I could get by with the two leaf rears on the 109. Stiff springs only limit travel and beat the sh*t out of you. Don't do anything for the slow speed plunking that most of us do in a series. If your going Baja bashing at high speed, stiffer springs might be justified but hear kidney transplants are really a bitch. Your going to have to go some to equal the ride I gave John. Also spend a bit more money to get the truck up and running, afterwards. Say hello to John for me. Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: "Hope Peter" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: >Subject: Re: riding high. >Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:31:39 -0400 [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Sun Aug 26 15:35:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7QJZEv29801 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:35:14 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 15:35:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108261935.f7QJZDO29797@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Nick Eckert" To: Subject: Trac Edges - WHERE TO GET Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry, CANADA BF Goodrich in Canada still makes/distributes Trac Edges because that market utilizes them where the US market does not. I don't know the name of the place I get them at in Surrey, BC, but they have them on hand and they are a regular tire place so I think they would be readily available. Last I checked Canadian Tire and Big O tire in Canada do not carry them though. If you call Tire Rack they will tell you they are no longer made and they no longer carry them. I bought the last one on their shelf about a year ago and that one had been on the shelve for a couple years. I would not recommend the LT-metric equivalent to 7.50R16. On the Trac Edges the side wall is about a 1/2 inch narrower than the 7.50R16's (I compared them side by side, there was a difference) Not all Costco's carry the Trac Edges. Since I go up to Cascadia regularly, I just drive across the border, get my Trac Edges installed, and drive back down. They run me about $160CDN installed with tubes, which is approx. $106US Maybe you need to make a trip to Canada for the BC Roverlanders Founders Day event, conveniently located about 20 miles across the border, with some really bad old tires that just so happen to need replacing before driving back. Cheers, Nick From bens Sun Aug 26 19:57:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7QNvHj30954 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:57:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:57:16 -0400 Message-Id: <200108262357.f7QNvG230950@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yup! At 07:19 PM 8/24/2001, you wrote: >You meant mill off .100", right? Later, > >Kelly Minnick From bens Mon Aug 27 00:50:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7R4oRd00886 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:50:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:50:27 -0400 Message-Id: <200108270450.f7R4oRh00882@minbar.fourfold.org> From: prsncat@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org FWIW, I've been working at Toshiba from 1988-1994 and 1996-present. I will not put my 2-bits in since I am biased (FWIW, 1994-1996 I was at AST and thought Toshiba still made the best portables by far). The reason I wrote was to let you know that I can get you a laptop at employee pricing. Also note that most companies can arrange really superb pricing for personal employee purchases of most computers -- regardess of brand -- so check with your employer and see if they offer such a program. I know we do. Anyway, if you want to get in touch, email me here and we can talk about what computer you want. And if you really like the touchpad over the little stick, then let me know... Brian Foster From bens Mon Aug 27 02:09:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7R69KP01232 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:09:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:09:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200108270609.f7R69JX01228@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: 2002 RR Suspension Info Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Default will probably be a Low Rider... Kelly Minnick From bens Mon Aug 27 02:16:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7R6GhF01284 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:16:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:16:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108270616.f7R6GhC01280@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Air Compressor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I-R does make a nice unit that is about $550 (delivered to your door). I know Harbor Freight is now carrying them. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41764 Here's the info: Includes thermo-overload with manual reset. Auto start-stop provides pressure switch control with manual on/off lever. Built to last--durable cast iron cylinder and frame. 11.3 CFM @ 90 PSI Single stage PSI:135 max 230V, 15 amps 100% continuous duty 5000 hr. minimum pump life Easy to read pressure gauge Precision balanced piston provides smooth operation Ingersoll-Rand SS3L3 Later, Kelly Minnick > > > > Thanks Peter. That was very informative. I have to stay with 110V and 20 > amps or less. But will look at the amps and go for a bigger tank. [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Aug 27 03:14:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7R7E8j01542 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 03:14:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 03:14:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200108270714.f7R7E7101538@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi & Christine" To: Subject: RE: Air Compressor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org know Harbor Freight is now carrying them. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41764 Thanks Kelly It looks better than the Quincy I was loking at: http://www.gohonda.com/quincy/151C60VC3.html they were asking 588 for it. More than what I had in mind. Mehdi From bens Mon Aug 27 08:46:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RCkgQ03095 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:46:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:46:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271246.f7RCkfi03091@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cc: jfhess@dcn.davis.ca.us Subject: RE: 7:1 or 8:1 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi John, whoops Kelly pointed out that I said .010 when I meant .100. Bob B At 07:19 PM 8/24/2001, you wrote: >You meant mill off .100", right? Later, > >Kelly Minnick From bens Mon Aug 27 12:01:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RG1e604190 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:01:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:01:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271601.f7RG1ek04186@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: replacement taillights/parking lights Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi all, I need to pick out a set of lights for my 51-80" and the 2A replacement set that is offered look to be a decent choice. Could someone who bought them please measure the diameter of the stop/tail and the front parking/directionals for me? I called A/B because I have a brochure from them showing these, but couldn't get a satisfactory answer about this. In their brochure the p/n is 3604 for the whole set. But I only need stop/tail and front directional/ Or does anyone have some unused ones to sell? Thanks, Bob B From bens Mon Aug 27 12:42:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RGgR004417 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:42:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:42:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271642.f7RGgQG04413@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Christopher H. Dow" To: mendo_recce Subject: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org As you know, the NCRC Rubicon trip was this weekend. There were four vehicles: John Lattyak in his FJ-40 (he also has a Range Rover, so forgive him :-), John Putnins in his D90, Ben Mitchell and his dad Jim in Ben's D90, and Leslie & I in her D90. John convoyed up to Loon Lake with Leslie and I, and we found a good-but-somewhat-hidden camp site. Leslie put up a sign saying NCRC, and we settled in for the night. Evidently, the site was too hidden, because John Putnins couldn't find us when he arrived. On Saturday morning, we hooked up with John P and Ben, did the forms, and hit the trail. The first obstacle (which some call the Gatekeeper) was significantly easier than during the recce in July, since one of the big holes had been filled with rocks (6" cobble for those of you who were at the work weekend :-). We then wound through a rock garden, and headed across the slabs. On the slabs, a sidewall burst on the brand-new Cooper STTs we'd put on Leslie's 90. We got that fixed and headed on up the trail. The trip was pretty uneventfull (one tug backwards at Walker's Rock) up to the Little Sluice, where I walked into a tree and cut my head. It wasn't a bad cut, but it bled a lot, as head cuts often do. We had a nice lunch and watched a failed, but reasonably intelligent, attempt at driving it, then proceeded on the bypass. At the point in the trail where the Little Sluice route and bypass meet, there is a very steep descent which is about 40 feet long. Alternatively, there is an incredibly steep decent of about 8 feet, with about 32 feet of less-steep stuff after that. Leslie and I had just switched drivers (she had been driving to this point), and I took the latter route, while John Lattyak took the former. I nosed in a little on the first 8 feet, and then heard a Very Bad Noise coming from the engine bay. I popped the bonnet, and found that a part of the fan shroud was hitting a pulley on the front of the engine. I thought "Hmm....it seems like the motor mounts should keep that from happening". After cutting the piece of plastic which was stuck in the pulley, I proceded to the bottom of the hill, and pulled over to see what was wrong. We found that all four engine/transmission mounts had failed. We figured out a way to at least try to hold the engine/transmission in place with ratchet straps, then turned around to head back out the way we came in, and made it back to Loon Lake without major incident. Returning up the steep section that caused the motor to shift (and possibly broke at least some of the mounts) got the motor back into place, and we tightened the straps to hold it there. We found and even better site at Loon Lake, and got a good night's sleep. On the way home, the check engine light came on. Not knowing what else to do, we lifted the bonnet and found that the engine was, indeed, still there. I guess we're supposed to look at some blinky lights, convert form Morse to Hex and look up the code :-) ? Does OBDII mean we no longer have that ability, and need to have it diagnosed by a Pro? Anyway, Leslie and I are 4 out of 5 for Rubicon attempts (6 out of 7 if you count the two times we've taken two vehicles through), so I don't feel too bad about it--it's a tough trail! Everyone agreed that it was better to abort than to continue on and risk the fan going through the radiator. We'd already completed the trail in July with the 110 and 90, so we certainly had nothing to prove. C From bens Mon Aug 27 13:01:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RH1oF04534 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:01:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:01:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271701.f7RH1nP04530@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "roverhybrids" To: Subject: Re: Air Compressor Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org ----- Original Message ----- > they were asking 588 for it. More than what I had in mind. > > Mehdi > > I have a sanborn 5hp 60 gal compressor that I would like to sell for $300. I'll include the regulator/filter and a couple of impact wrenches. if interested send me an email off-line I'm in Redding, Ca. Shane ---------------------------------------------------- NetZero Platinum Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 From bens Mon Aug 27 13:10:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RHAAA04575 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:10:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:10:05 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271710.f7RHA5304571@minbar.fourfold.org> From: TeriAnn Wakeman To: "mendo rec list" Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > We found that all four engine/transmission mounts had failed. I bet from now on you will: - Check the condition of the mounts before heading out on a gonzo trip - Carry a complete set of spare mounts plus the means of lifting the engine to install them in your regular kit. I know I did after breaking just a pair of mounts in Death Valley. TeriAnn Wakeman Marigold Ltd. Santa Cruz, California Web design, site updating, testing webmaster@overlander.net search engine optimization, graphics and more http://www.overlander.net/Marigold/index.html From bens Mon Aug 27 13:13:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RHDs804604 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:13:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:13:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271713.f7RHDrc04600@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: [Fwd: Please Spread The Word] Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ message/rfc822 ] [ 22 lines filtered. ] --------------6E4D68E60563F37EEE889905 --------------6E4D68E60563F37EEE889905 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 The NEVADA TROPHY 2002, the U.S. Open of Land Rover Rallies, is scheduled for JANUARY 25-27, 2002 in Lovelock, NV. and is NOW TAKING ENTRIES. Last year's rally was by far the best in the event's six year history! Range Rovers, Discoveries, Defenders and Series Land Rovers danced their way through mud, snow and dirt in their quest for strategically placed way points. Everyone had a great time from first time off roaders to past Camel Trophy competitors. Like last year, the event will be held at the Ramada Inn in Lovelock, NV. That proved to be an excellent location allowing the competitors to get to know each other and share their tales of heroism after each day's event. Wayne Vannorsdall & Ron Dombroski have won twice, including 2001... can YOU beat them? Those not familiar with the event, the Nevada Trophy is limited to Land Rovers (Series, Defenders, Discoveries and Range Rovers). It is primarily a navigational event - with obstacle courses thrown in - that takes place in the beautiful and desolate northwest portion of Nevada. It tests your off road savvy, endurance and navigational skills. It is a blast for all levels of four wheelers. All you need to participate is a Land Rover, GPS, a good friend and a desire to have a great time! Day-1 will start with convoy to a Special Task area. Special Tasks will begin the event, once YOU have completed this you will be issued your navigation book for the day. You'll be given 14-hours to complete the book. Day-2 will begin early, thus getting everyone back to the hotel early to relax (have dinner, tell stories, etc.). You'll gain have 14-hours to complete the book. Day-3 (Sunday) will open with Breakfast then awards at the host hotel. To be part of this great event you can contact the organizers at Off Road Experience (http://www.offroadexperience.com) or fax them at 925-606-8302. See you in Nevada, Cas Stimson Santa Barbara cstimson@gte.net --------------6E4D68E60563F37EEE889905-- From bens Mon Aug 27 13:25:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RHPDQ04678 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:25:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:25:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271725.f7RHPCi04674@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Laptops Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Cool. I work for the federal government, and I don't get a discount as far as I know. Kelly may be able to get a student discount, but that appears to be about $100 off list. Her sister works for Intel, and is checking into her discount. She already bought a computer this year through them, so she may not be able to swing it. Anyhow, Kelly printed out specs on an IBM and a Dell she likes last night. I will send them to you this evening. Thanks, James On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 prsncat@aol.com wrote: > > FWIW, I've been working at Toshiba from 1988-1994 and 1996-present. I will > not put my 2-bits in since I am biased (FWIW, 1994-1996 I was at AST and > thought Toshiba still made the best portables by far). > [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Aug 27 14:01:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RI1oE04859 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:01:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:01:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271801.f7RI1nO04855@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Christopher H. Dow" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: >>We found that all four engine/transmission mounts had failed. >> > > I bet from now on you will: > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] > on a gonzo trip Yeah. We have been lulled into complacency by the "newness" of the vehicles. We now realize that they are of an age (the 110 is nine model years old, now!). A visual inspection was done before we left, but the mounts require more than visual. > - Carry a complete set of spare mounts plus the means > of lifting the engine to install them in your > regular kit. Yeah, that's a good idea, as well. > I know I did after breaking just a pair of mounts in Death Valley. I remembered that while we were in the midst of the ordeal. C From bens Mon Aug 27 14:57:57 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RIvvi05189 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:57:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:57:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271857.f7RIvv005185@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200108271834.f7RIYXI05050@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > kit...It sure seems like that > spares kit gets heavier with each trip! 8-) And suddenly you turn around and find yourself carrying full spare engine on a trip--just in case. Oh wait! That was me. D'oh. Ben From bens Mon Aug 27 14:34:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RIYYl05054 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:34:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:34:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271834.f7RIYXI05050@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Leslie Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Well, I did do a visual inspection after the last trip. I always clean the undercarriage and look for any signs of potential trouble. The motor/transmisson mounts looked fine. However, before last saturday, I had not actually seen a broken motor mount. Because the engine had not actually shifted until Chris hit that last obstacle, I think I would have had to jack up the tranny to see that the mounts were broken. I have been thinking that it may be a prudent idea to just change them on a regular basis because the offroading that I like is rockcrawling. In any event, I have added motor mounts to my spares kit...It sure seems like that spares kit gets heavier with each trip! 8-) leslie TeriAnn Wakeman wrote: > I bet from now on you will: > > - Check the condition of the mounts before heading out > on a gonzo trip > [ 6 additional quoted lines pruned. ] -- Leslie Johnston-Dow, Ph.D. Sequencing Software Group Lead, Applied Biosystems johnstln@appliedbiosystems.com 650-638-5104 From bens Mon Aug 27 14:39:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RIdVt05087 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:39:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:39:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271839.f7RIdUQ05083@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: 2002 RR Suspension Info Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Thanks for this gem Jeremy -- I have heard pretty impressive rumors about the upcoming RR's off road performance (see http://www.rangerovers.net/rrnews.htm#newmod ). One source told me the vehicle is so good that BMW is thinking of giving up the idea of producing an X7 to compete with it. However we'll all have to wait and see. I don't think the D90 folks need to get all nervous and worried, as there will probably be a limit to what even a Range Rover can do with extremely low profile 20 inch racing tires. Your info confirms what I have heard about the suspension being fully independent with a more sophisticated version of the air suspension that jacks up the height when it senses large wheel excursions. Hopefully it will include electronically variable damping rates etc. Re the beam axle simulation, I was actually wondering if they might take that approach to get over the disadvantages of independent suspensions off road. A solenoid valve that connects the right and left airbags would almost achieve the effect with the addition of some intelligence from the ECU. Re the failure mode -- surely there can be no possibility of failure??? Please do let us know when you have a spare one for us to test. Cheers John Jeremy Bartlett wrote: > Just a bit of trivia I thought I'd pass on about the replacement Range > Rover due out in mid 2002. Apparently it will be fully independent all > around using air suspension; however electronic/computer controls will > force the suspension to act as a live/beam axle off road. Shoud be > interesting. I wonder what the default failure mode will be :) [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Aug 27 15:34:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RJYlY05405 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:34:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:34:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271934.f7RJYkX05401@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have an OBDII analyzer you can use to sniff the codes if you want. TomW, who wished he could have made the trip. > > > We found that all four engine/transmission mounts had failed. > > I bet from now on you will: > [ 18 additional quoted lines pruned. ] *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Mon Aug 27 15:38:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RJce105451 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:38:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:38:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271938.f7RJcdo05447@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > > kit...It sure seems like that > > spares kit gets heavier with each trip! 8-) > > And suddenly you turn around and find yourself carrying full spare [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Worse yet, you start breaking axles cus the spare axles, engine, mounts and stuff weigh to much! Kind of a nasty feedback loop. TomW *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Mon Aug 27 15:34:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RJYjT05397 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:34:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:34:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200108271934.f7RJYjh05392@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 2002 RR Suspension Info Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > Your info confirms what I have heard about the suspension being fully > independent with a more sophisticated version of the air suspension that > jacks up the height when it senses large wheel excursions. So youre telling me every time an excursion with large wheels goes by, it will jack the suspension up?? I picture that "calvin peeing" picture on so many pickups, with the rangie jacked up like a dog at a fire hydrant :) Thats sophisticated! TomW *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Mon Aug 27 16:04:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RK42E05594 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:04:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:04:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272004.f7RK41F05590@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: Mendo list Subject: PAP Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We are getting some surplus pierced aluminum planking here at work to build a temporary road. This road is for a truck mounted crane. Truck weighs about 8000 lbs, and will lift 1000 lbs. Do any of you know what kind of preparation we need to do to the ground? It is clay that gets very muddy very easily. James PS - should I try to snag some to take on Land Rover trips? From bens Mon Aug 27 16:16:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RKGWB05679 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:16:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:16:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272016.f7RKGWh05675@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: PAP Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org << that was the first thing that crossed my mind... Me too. Where is this road being built anyway. :-) Cheers, Gerry (145 miles south of Flag) From bens Mon Aug 27 16:10:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RKA8X05637 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:10:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:10:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272010.f7RKA7805633@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "(owned by harderr)" To: Mendo list Subject: Re: PAP Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, James Howard wrote: > > PS - should I try to snag some to take on Land Rover trips? > that was the first thing that crossed my mind... -- Sincerely, Ray Harder From bens Mon Aug 27 16:44:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RKiZ005826 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:44:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:44:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272044.f7RKiZx05822@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: Mendo list Subject: Re: PAP Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Apparantly the Border Patrol likes to use it to make fences. We got first dibs on this batch, though. On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, (owned by harderr) wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, James Howard wrote: > > > > PS - should I try to snag some to take on Land Rover trips? > > [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Aug 27 16:44:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RKiR605815 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:44:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:44:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272044.f7RKiQ505811@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org HI, I don't know about d90 mounts, but the GM mounts had a metal shoulder added to one side that wraps around the other side so if (when) the rubber breaks, the mount will still hold the motor and tranny in position. Bob B At 11:34 AM 8/27/2001, you wrote: >Well, I did do a visual inspection after the last trip. I always clean >the undercarriage and >look for any signs of potential trouble. The motor/transmisson mounts >looked fine. However, >before last saturday, I had not actually seen a broken motor mount. [ 27 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Aug 27 16:42:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RKgFt05802 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:42:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:42:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272042.f7RKgE705798@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: 2002 RR Suspension Info Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, John Brabyn wrote: > Re the failure mode -- surely there can be no possibility of failure??? Failures that can be dealt with in the field would be more palatable than ones that require trips to the dealer. From bens Mon Aug 27 18:05:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RM5dC06304 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:05:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:05:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272205.f7RM5cO06298@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org not rover ones.....I'm about to replace teh broken ones on The Light Brigade finally and start driving it again asn I am sellig off the audi, The African, and probably Elgie right now..... I will take one of the mounts in and check it against the GM ones. Hopefully there is one that will work I like the idea of the sholder.......when I broke teh mounts off in Anzo Borrega, I think the engine was jumping all over the place, it tore off the intake assy, but I didn't really understand what had happened uptil muuuch later. I think I really shouldnot have tried that steep attack out of that gully that caused it all! funny that ol' 20 20 hindsight! Paul Archibald --- Bob & Sue Bernard wrote: > > HI, > I don't know about d90 mounts, but the GM mounts had a metal shoulder added > to one side that wraps around the other side so if (when) the rubber > breaks, the mount will still hold the motor and tranny in position. [ 15 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Mon Aug 27 18:27:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7RMR7206421 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:27:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:27:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108272227.f7RMR6j06417@minbar.fourfold.org> From: andrew robinson To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: PAP Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James, Do whatever you can to ge it all! ...or realisticly at least 200 pieces.....I think you can pretty much guarrantee that from Mendo alone you could sell off that! I would be up for a few pieces(Yeah guys, I know I have no $$ being unemployed, but that has never stopped me beore...after all things are leaving the driveway here shortly as I thin out the heard! I understand if it's not possible, but worth looking into! Paul Archibald --- James Howard wrote: > > > We are getting some surplus pierced aluminum planking here at work to > build a temporary road. This road is for a truck mounted crane. Truck > weighs about 8000 lbs, and will lift 1000 lbs. [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From bens Mon Aug 27 20:10:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7S0AJd06897 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:10:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:10:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200108280010.f7S0AIE06893@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: brief desert recce report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org This is a very brief (yah, right) report of our desert recce. A much more detailed article will be in the next NCRC newsletter. The more detailed article will talk more about the recce in general, including the geologic and archaeological finds we encountered along the way! The desert recce was a blast! Two trucks ran the recce, Casey and Jennifier in their SIII 88 and Petra and I and my two younger brothers Travis and Taylor in our 110. We left Thursday night after midnight and by 7am we passed by the southeastern end of Pyramid Lake and enjoyed its wonderful views. The tuffa formations here were spectacular as well. By 9am Friday morning we got to Empire, Nevada. Empire is about 100 miles from Reno and 5 miles from Gerlach. Empire and Gerlach are the only two "major" cities in the entire region. It took a lot longer to get to Empire/Gerlach because of stops for gas, food, drinks, brief jogs to wake up, etc. Also, driving a Series over the Sierra Nevada's takes patience! Later, while some caught up on their sleep in Empire, the rest of us explored and planned the days direction of travel. We had an entire set of excellent BLM maps for the region so we could get a great overview of the area. After tanking up in Gerlach we headed to the Granite Range which is about 30 miles or less from Gerlach. The trail we took was amazing, allowing us to encounter at least 50 wild horses in 7 or 8 herds along the way. Most of us had never seen wild horses before so it was a breath-taking experience to say the least. For lunch we stopped along a dry creek bed near a prominent outcropping of rocks on an otherwise barren plateau. We obviously choose a good spot because after we got out to take some photos and explore, we came upon overwhelming evidence that the site was also used by people many hundreds if not thousands of years before us - there were obsidian projectile point flakes scattered everywhere. The area was a perfect place for a group to camp and rest from the harsh desert conditions. We all were amazed at the thought of how many other sites like this one existed all across the desert. After recording the exact GPS coordinates for the site to be given to regional archaeological groups, we headed further into the range. (Much, much more will be included in the newsletter article on this site...) About 4 hours before sunset we made a wrong turn from our planned route and ended up driving up a very steep hill climb, complete with rubble, side slopes, and best of all, a dusting of super fine sandy dirty that was about 3 inches deep and was worse than mud or sand! Both trucks struggled to get up and avoid tipping over. It was stressful and a lot of fun all at once. It was only after we got to the top that we realized that we had to go back down to get to the actual trail. The climb up and back down ate up about two hours of our quickly fading day, so we decided against heading towards the entrance of High Rock Canyon which was our destination for the day. After we got both rigs through, we explored for a camp site and found one at about 7,500 feet that overlooked the mountains below and around us, and portions of the Black Rock Desert in the distance. We all had a splendid night under the beautiful Nevada stars. Casey even made a pizza again! The entire day we passed only two ATV'rs, which was nice - it added to the feeling of being "in the middle of nowhere" and was a really great experience. The entire trip was relatively remote, even with Buring Man gearing up not that far away. Luck for us, the people going only got to BM by way of paved roads to the entrance to the Black Rock Desert. The next day we caught up on our sleep and rolled out of camp a little later than normal and headed down to the desert floor. Much to our disapproval, the infamous Burning Man was starting on Sunday so there were quiet a few people in and around the area. While on the Black Rock we visited a rocketry club from Nor Cal that was launching experimental and higher class rockets, many that reached thousands of feet into the sky. For those not familiar with the Black Rock Desert, it is a beautiful expanse of totally flat ground flanked on all sides by mountain ranges. The desert floor is actually a dry lake bed. It is simply unbelievable to drive in one direction for 30 + minutes at 65-75mph and not come across anything but more of the same flat desert surface. It was very dusty, very hot and very dry but well worth every effort to see and experience it. After playing and watching the rocket launches we went to explore a region near the base of some peaks along the edge of the Black Rock where a hot springs was located. After a true overland experience we finally located it and Casey and Taylor took a warm and refreshing dip. Before leaving the Black Rock for good we also identified a mine along the ridge of the mountains near the hot spring and climbed up to it, only to find that the entrance was closed off. This is probably a good thing considering the number of people that now frequent this region of Nevada because of BM. Wouldn't want the local SAR volunteers to rescue any dazed, drugged and disaffected so-called artists from the depths of an abandoned mine! ;-) Then it was on to Gerlach for pizza and beer, and a long drive home for an Ocean adventure to the Farallon Islands the following Sunday morning. The fact that we had to turn back because of 27+ knot winds and 20+ foot waves is another story! We found many areas to further explore and also noted a number of excellent spots for lunch, larger group camping, photo ops, places to play, etc. Look for an offical trip sometime in the future and the full report in the newsletter. Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Mon Aug 27 20:16:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7S0GfF06944 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:16:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:16:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108280016.f7S0Gea06940@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Is there any truth that the diesel mounts are stronger than the gas mounts. When I 'huli'd' the 88. 3 0f 4 mounts broke. They were only a year old so deterioration should not have been a problem. Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: TeriAnn Wakeman >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: "mendo rec list" >Subject: Re: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report >Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:10:05 -0400 [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Mon Aug 27 20:45:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7S0jUO07101 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:45:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:45:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108280045.f7S0jTg07097@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Motor mounts Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 03:05 PM 8/27/2001, you wrote: >not rover ones.....I'm about to replace teh broken ones on The Light >Brigade finally and start >driving it again asn I am sellig off the audi, The African, and probably >Elgie right now..... Paul, Check the Chevy mounts in particular, They had a recall to stop the engines from tilting and racing. What are you saying about selling the african and Elgie? Bob B From bens Mon Aug 27 20:51:00 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7S0p0107148 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:51:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:50:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108280050.f7S0oxM07144@minbar.fourfold.org> From: aaron To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Pick a Part in Hayward Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I was at Pick a Part in Hayward today and found a Rover 2000 TC. It was complete, including the twin su's and I felt kind of guilty taking parts off of it. I got some electrical pieces and some gauges. I didn't realize how crazy the rear end is, the disk brakes are near the center of the car with what looks like independent suspension. Are there any parts from Rover or other English cars I should be on the look out for that will work on a series? The car was owned by Jeff Rudd at some time, there was still a box from Rover's West in Tucson in the trunk. If anybody is ever looking for gauges there were also a few Jags with Lucas gauges. Aaron From bens Mon Aug 27 22:44:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7S2iqg07787 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:44:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:44:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108280244.f7S2ipR07783@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: comp test n leakdown Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 34 lines filtered. ] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C12F6B.64F673A6 charset="iso-8859-1" Had some work done on Pershing ('66 109) recently-- am trying to baseline the engine condition since I know the head is or will soon be due for new valves, guides and seats (2.25l, never opened, 95k miles, smokes on startup). If the cylinders and bottom end looks good, then I hope to get away with just a top end overhaul (8:1 head and maybe the SU conversion??). Compressions are 125/125/125/130, which is pretty close to reading 18 mos and about 5k miles ago. Leakdown is 5%/5%/10%/10%, which I don't know how to interpret and have no previous data. Any seers out there want to make any interpretation/recommendation for me??? Cheers. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C12F6B.64F673A6 From bens Mon Aug 27 23:39:00 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7S3d0R08168 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:39:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:38:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108280338.f7S3cxg08164@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: comp test n leakdown Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Compression is about normal for the lower compression head. I've replaced many valve springs/valve stem seals from the top side with many satisfied customers. Sounds like that's where you are loosing oil. Does it burn badly going downhills? The seals turn very hard over age. Mine were brittle at 40K miles! (not the best rubber back then). Other than maybe wanting the extra torque/hp (shift in torque curve with a compression bump up) with planing the head or an 8:1 new head, is there reason for the rest? Just a thought. Later, Kelly Minnick > > Had some work done on Pershing ('66 109) recently-- am trying to > baseline the engine condition since I know the head is or will soon be > due for new valves, guides and seats (2.25l, never opened, 95k miles, > smokes on startup). If the cylinders and bottom end looks good, then I [ 11 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Mon Aug 27 23:55:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7S3tFT08268 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:55:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:55:15 -0400 Message-Id: <200108280355.f7S3tFs08264@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: NCRC Rubicon Mini-report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Chris- My friends Jeep use to break engine mounts, rock the engine over and take out the oil filter. On one occasion, it took out the oil filter and broke the radiator drain off! This was up in the Panimints (sp?) where mechanical service is always close! :) Later, Kelly Minnick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org > [mailto:owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org]On Behalf Of Christopher H. Dow > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 9:42 AM > To: mendo_recce [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Tue Aug 28 00:25:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7S4PuB09324 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:25:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:25:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200108280425.f7S4PtI09320@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: "Mendo" Subject: Pruned messages Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What's with the pruned messages? Many times my replies get pruned to Nothing even after I've already pruned them. Is there a trick to a 'replied' message? Thanks, Kelly Minnick From bens Tue Aug 28 09:35:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7SDZgc12036 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:35:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:35:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200108281335.f7SDZfD12032@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pruned messages Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200108280425.f7S4PtI09320@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > What's with the pruned messages? Many times my replies get pruned to Nothing > even after I've already pruned them. Is there a trick to a 'replied' > message? Thanks, I added code to start pruning messages. The list has had a no attachments rule for years. This usually catches at least one virus a month. The problem is that more and more people were using (or forced to using) mail clients that send attachments with all of their emails (like the same thing repeated as HTML). So I had to edit these by hand and resend them. Usually this was 2 or 3 per day. It got annoying. So I wrote some code to strip out all attachements and only forward on the ASCII text part along with adding text to the message saying what was stripped. I was also receiving complains from digest users of people who would reply to a message with two or three lines and include the full previous message. Sometimes replies would have 4 or 5 previous messages in it. The digest was quickly becoming noise. So I added some code to consider these "Original Messages" to be an attachment and stripped them. Likewise with standard quoted test with "> " indents, I set an upper limit of (I think) 4 lines. Enough so that you can quote enough to continue the thread, but not excessive amounts. When text is deleted how many lines of deletion is noted in the passed on email. This is a configurable parameter so if this is too short, I can easily change it. Since I was writing code, I also decided to enforce some other rules. Each email must have a "From" line, a "To" line and there must be content in the body of the message (just in case everything is an attachment). Already these rules have caught some spam and blocked it from the list. Asto you specific case, I don't recall any excessively pruned messages. But I don't have perfect memory. And my code could have a bug in it. Give me some examples and I'd be happy to look into it. Ben From bens Tue Aug 28 10:38:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7SEcX312322 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:38:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:38:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200108281438.f7SEcWL12318@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Kelly RE: comp test n leakdown Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Kelly, What tool do you use to compress the valve spring from the top? I have one for chev V8 (won't work), and one for old style Chev 6 (pre 54) that comes close. Also I've found the seals from Britpac get destroyed by the double springs. Next time I do mine I will use single springs I got from BP or locate a set of seals that clear the springs. There is a guy in Redding (CA) who will help me with different seals if I decide to try it. He is a US parts supplier that sells over the phone. Has really great prices and quick shipping too. Warehouse Auto Parts 1-800-655-4492 Bob B At 08:38 PM 8/27/2001, you wrote: >Compression is about normal for the lower compression head. I've replaced >many valve springs/valve stem seals from the top side with many satisfied >customers. From bens Tue Aug 28 17:23:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7SLN3n14321 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:23:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:23:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200108282123.f7SLN2X14317@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Tom Walsh" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: PAP Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > > James, > > Do whatever you can to ge it all! > ...or realisticly at least 200 pieces.....I think you can pretty much guarrantee that from Mendo [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Neat stuff, but seriously Paul, you can follow me around or use my aluminium bridging ladders so you won't get stuck.... at least till ya pay all them pesky bills off eh!!! :) TomW > > I understand if it's not possible, but worth looking into! > > Paul Archibald > [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] *---------*---------* tomw@best.com, www.fluentnet.com From bens Tue Aug 28 18:12:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7SMCUO14623 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:12:30 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:12:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108282212.f7SMCTL14619@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: More Mendo tragedy... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just heard word that two fire planes crashed into one another while in flight over Mendo on fire patrol, killing all onboard. Anyone else catch word of this horrible news?? Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Tue Aug 28 18:22:21 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7SMMLJ14703 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:22:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:22:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200108282222.f7SMMLv14699@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Thomas Joyner" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Cooper CTD in Warehouse Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Gerry said "If anyone comes across a warehouse full of Trac Edges or Cooper CTDs please lemme know." Gerry, the shop I bought my CTDs from called their distributor and they had 10 7.50x16s in stock. They lost 5 to me. If you'd like I could forward the Durango tire shop's phone # off line so you could investigate the possibility of another 5 CTDs in 7.50x16 at a warehouse. Tom 88 RR (w/CTDs!) Durango, CO From bens Tue Aug 28 18:33:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7SMXlG14755 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:33:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:33:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200108282233.f7SMXla14751@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: More Mendo tragedy... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It's true. Current speculation is that the fire started from some activities involved in a drug lab. They apparently have the culprits and are talking about charging them with 2nd degree murder. If its true, the pilots are another victim of the 'Ice' epidemic. Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: Jason Pipes >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Subject: More Mendo tragedy... >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:12:29 -0400 [ 8 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Tue Aug 28 18:56:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7SMuOd14876 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:56:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:56:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200108282256.f7SMuNq14872@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: More Mendo tragedy... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just came across this news story as well... http://wire.ap.org/?SLUG=WESTERN%2dFIRES Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Tue Aug 28 21:49:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7T1nlq15649 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:49:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:49:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200108290149.f7T1nkN15645@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: More on Tires (was Cooper CTD in Warehouse) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 6:22 PM -0400 8/28/01, Thomas Joyner wrote: >Gerry, the shop I bought my CTDs from called their distributor and they had >10 7.50x16s in stock. They lost 5 to me. If you'd like I could forward the >Durango tire shop's phone # off line so you could investigate the >possibility of another 5 CTDs in 7.50x16 at a warehouse. Thanks Tom, however I'm afraid that I want something a bit fatter. I'm looking for 235/85/16s. They're going on 6.5" rims that the D90 will be wearing. This gives me a reasonable fat footprint without getting excessively wide and they're only slightly narrower than the stock BFG A/Ts. I addition I'll get a reasonable 32" diameter. At the risk of starting another one of THOSE tire threads I'll certainly listen to the wisdom of the list regarding that size choice. I have researched fairly thoroughly and can't find any negatives. So fire away. As an aside, I think that the 7.50x16s are the perfect choice for Series Land Rovers on stock rims. I had the Trac-Edges in that size on Gooey and found them to be exceptional tires in all respects. All that said; as Nick Eckert (as opposed to Jick Baggarly) pointed out, BFG Trac-Edges are still widely available in Canada. I have spoken with Wise Owl and they apparently have a warehouse full. Other sources in BC seem to have them or can get them. In the lower 48, Tire Rack, Wheel Works, Michelin et al all claim that the tires are NLA and have not been produced for some time. That seems odd since they appear to be in production for the Canadian market, unless it has something to do with D.O.T. certification. It seems that a trip to visit Lilly's family in BC is now on the agenda. Still haven't seen the literature, promised by Michelin's PR people, on the "improved" replacement for the Trac-Edges. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain From bens Tue Aug 28 22:55:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7T2tQx15990 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:55:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:55:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108290255.f7T2tPR15986@minbar.fourfold.org> From: FHY To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: More on Tires (was Cooper CTD in Warehouse) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "G. Mugele" wrote: > ... They're going on 6.5" rims that the D90 will be wearing. Hi Gerry, What rims are you using? (Where did you get them?) Frank From bens Tue Aug 28 23:17:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7T3H8v16096 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:17:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:17:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200108290317.f7T3H7V16092@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Gerry Elam" To: azlro@stat.com, mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: El Camino Del Diablo Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Robyn and I did the Devil's Highway with a friend last Memorial Day. It was a great trip even if it was a bit on the warm side. It's time to do it again. :-) Current thinking is that we'll depart PHX at some decent hour on Oct. 20th around 7 AM and have an early lunch in Wellton before hitting the trail. Wellton is exit 30 (I think) just before Yuma. Saturday night will be at Tule Well and then we'll complete the trip on Sunday returning home that afternoon/evening. This won't be a exclusive Land Rover trip. I'm planning on riding my motorcycle on it and I've got a friend who'll be on his. My buddy Dan drives a Jeep and has done three of these trips with me also including two Mojave trips. He's a good guy to have along. SO, if anyone wants to join us, let me know and I'll keep you in the loop as the details firm up. This is a great trip and if you've never done the El Camino Del Diablo, this will be a great time of the year to do it also. Cheers, Gerry Elam PHX AZ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Tue Aug 28 23:35:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7T3ZqY16197 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:35:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:35:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108290335.f7T3ZpG16193@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "G. Mugele" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: More on Tires (was Cooper CTD in Warehouse) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 10:55 PM -0400 8/28/01, FHY wrote: >What rims are you using? (Where did you get them?) Hi Frank, They're nice new shiny Wolf rims. I bought them from Ben Freeman in Washington.... shoulda gotten the tires at the same time apparently... he has more. Mine are still in the shrink wrap with foam protectors on the edges. I was thinking of changing colors from the black but I'm gonna see how they works as is....less the shrink wrap and foam. _ / o\_ Gerald Mugele / )-- \ MewGull@Mugele.net / | Glen Ellen, CA *** "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain From bens Wed Aug 29 00:46:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7T4kQQ17538 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:46:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:46:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108290446.f7T4kPW17534@minbar.fourfold.org> From: FHY To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: More on Tires (was Cooper CTD in Warehouse) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Gerry, I'm jealous! Ben told me earlier that he didn't have any more. (And I could have picked them up from him since I just came back from driving around WA.) Frank ---------------------------------------- "G. Mugele" wrote: > ... > They're nice new shiny Wolf rims. I bought them from Ben Freeman in > Washington.... From bens Wed Aug 29 01:11:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7T5B6d17696 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:11:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:11:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108290511.f7T5B6517692@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Pruned messages Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Wow Ben! Sounds like you've been busy. Good job. I hope you didn't think I was condemning you or something. Now that I know how it works, I can work with it. Thanks again, Kelly Minnick > I added code to start pruning messages. The list has had a no > attachments rule for years. This usually catches at least one virus a > month. The problem is that more and more people were using (or forced to > using) mail clients that send attachments with all of their emails (like > the same thing repeated as HTML). So I had to edit these by hand [ 36 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 29 11:18:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7TFIxS20642 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:18:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:18:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108291518.f7TFIwF20638@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Blair Peterson" To: "Mendo (E-mail)" Subject: comp n leak down Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org [ 1 attachment(s) detected and blocked. ] [ text/html; ] [ 34 lines filtered. ] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1309D.EB7A04C0 charset="iso-8859-1" Kelly, Thanks for the info. The motor is looking pretty strong in the bottom half I guess. No smoke at all under compression, just at startup. I guess a desire for a tad more power (not much,mind you) and a (warped?) modification curiosity have me interested in the SU setup. That and the fact that my Solex is on its last legs. On an earlier truck I've had Rochester (no complaints), Solex (worked great), and dual bbl Weber (great power, but poor start/warmup). If reason prevails, I'll just redo the head, and find a new ($$$) or rebuilt Solex to maintain Pershing's current sewing machine-like smooth running. Cheers. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1309D.EB7A04C0 From bens Wed Aug 29 14:24:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7TIOqt21570 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:24:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:24:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108291824.f7TIOpb21566@minbar.fourfold.org> From: John Brabyn To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: More on Trac Edges Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org "G. Mugele" wrote: > All that said; as Nick Eckert (as opposed to Jick Baggarly) pointed > out, BFG Trac-Edges are still widely available in Canada. I have > spoken with Wise Owl and they apparently have a warehouse full. > Other sources in BC seem to have them or can get them. I just talked to customer relations at BFGoodrich who also state that the tire is out of production, but that some Trac Edges are still available in the Reno warehouse (I was looking for 245/75R16), which often ships to the Bay Area. > Still haven't seen the literature, promised by Michelin's PR people, > on the "improved" replacement for the Trac-Edges. BFG told me that the likely "new and improved" replacement is a thing called the Commercial T/A Traction -- with a "similar" tread design but -- you guessed it -- without the hefty lugs we all like them for. (There are smaller notched lugs that extend further down the sidewall). This is supposed to be already available but I don't see it mentioned on their website. BFG is supposed to be sending me a brochure so we can compare notes -- I don't know if this is the same tire they mentioned to you Gerry. The customer relations guy naturally waxed eloquent about the "improvements", but advised that if you want mud performance, get the Mud Terrain! Looks like our endless search for the ideal "all-round" tire is getting harder -- Cheers John From bens Wed Aug 29 20:05:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U05MR23410 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:05:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:05:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300005.f7U05M823406@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Leslie Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: KG6HSG Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yep, thats me!!!!! I got my call sign today! KG6HSG!!!! bye -- -- Leslie Johnston-Dow, Ph.D. Sequencing Software Group Lead, Applied Biosystems johnstln@appliedbiosystems.com 650-638-5104 KG6HSG From bens Wed Aug 29 21:15:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U1Ffv23748 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 21:15:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 21:15:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300115.f7U1Fe123744@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: KG6HSG Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Congratulations!! and 73's in Hamspeak. By my count that makes 22 NCRC hams. Bruce KF6QBF Leslie Dow wrote: > Yep, thats me!!!!! I got my call sign today! > KG6HSG!!!! From bens Wed Aug 29 21:40:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U1exc23889 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 21:40:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 21:40:58 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300140.f7U1ewI23885@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: "mendo_recce@fourfold.org" Subject: Pacificon, Ham Radio Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Anyone planning on going to Pacificon? It's Oct 19-20-21 in Concord. There are what look like a pretty good series of forums on amateur radio/emergency services along with many other topics. Bruce Bonar From bens Wed Aug 29 22:13:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U2Dmw24055 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:13:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:13:47 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300213.f7U2Dln24051@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: More on Trac Edges Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What about the Dick Cepec (sp?) Baja tires with the 6-ply sidewall rating! Kelly Minnick From bens Wed Aug 29 22:22:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U2MkZ24127 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:22:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:22:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300222.f7U2Mj824120@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Kelly RE: comp test n leakdown Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Bob- I use a hand tool (I think it's a K&E or is it K&D) and 3/16" rope fed into the spark plug hole. I then rotate the piston up to hold up the valves... I put on the dual springs. Not sure where I got the stem seals. I have bought them from BP, AB, and even Rover's West... Later, Kelly Minnick > Hi Kelly, > What tool do you use to compress the valve spring from the top? > I have one for chev V8 (won't work), and one for old style Chev 6 > (pre 54) > that comes close. [ 12 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 29 22:22:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U2Mkw24131 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:22:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:22:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300222.f7U2MjH24125@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: Re: Pacificon, Ham Radio Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org where can i get more information on the event? do they have a wensite? -->jeff on 8/29/01 6:40 PM, Bruce R. Bonar at brbonar@value.net wrote: > > Anyone planning on going to Pacificon? It's Oct 19-20-21 in Concord. > There are what look like a pretty good series of forums on amateur > radio/emergency services along with many other topics. > [ 2 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Wed Aug 29 22:23:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U2NP524144 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:23:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:23:24 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300223.f7U2NOF24140@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jeff Rogers To: Mendo Recce List Subject: Re: KG6HSG Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org 73's... on 8/29/01 5:05 PM, Leslie Dow at leslie@thelen.org wrote: > > Yep, thats me!!!!! I got my call sign today! > KG6HSG!!!! > bye From bens Wed Aug 29 22:40:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U2eDI24266 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:40:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:40:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300240.f7U2eDt24262@minbar.fourfold.org> From: FHY To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pacificon, Ham Radio Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org See http://www.pacificon.org/ Jeff Rogers wrote: > where can i get more information on the event? do they have a wensite? From bens Wed Aug 29 23:40:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U3edD24608 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:40:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:40:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300340.f7U3ecg24601@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Kelly RE: comp test n leakdown Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Hi, Wondering what number is on the KD tool? Also have you found any torn or broken seals,Of the old ones? Bob B >You said: >I use a hand tool (I think it's a K&E or is it K&D) >put on the dual springs. Not sure where I got the stem seals. I have bought >them from BP, AB, and even Rover's West... Later, From bens Wed Aug 29 23:52:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U3qc624676 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:52:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:52:37 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300352.f7U3qbt24672@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: More on Trac Edges Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org John Brabyn wrote: > BFG told me that the likely "new and improved" replacement is a > thing called the Commercial T/A Traction -- with a "similar" tread > design but -- you guessed it--without the hefty lugs we all like them > for. [snip] > The customer relations guy naturally waxed eloquent about the [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] Sounds *so* much like the crap I got from the guy at Uniroyal, when I found that they had already discontinued the "perfect" tire I'd just discovered at Mendo on the photographer's Disco (sorry I spaced out your name for the moment). It was basically a well-siped MT. Granny From bens Thu Aug 30 00:03:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U43Bl24841 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:03:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:03:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300403.f7U43BH24837@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Granville Pool" To: Subject: Re: Pruned messages Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Ben wrote: > Asto you specific case, I don't recall any excessively pruned > messages. Really? I've seen many messages, lately, pruned to where they don't make any sense to me at all. I can't send you any examples because I've deleted them all. Besides, you would probably prune them until you couldn't make any sense of my message either! Seriously, I think 4 lines of quoted text is prunation in the extreme! I suggest more on the order of 10-20 lines. I, for one, go to a great deal of trouble to prune and usually interleave quoted text for meaningful replies. Replies with little or no quoted text tend to be meaningless unless you have the original message handy or well in mind. On the other hand, those who reply to the digest without editing the [pasting in the proper] subject line and pruning down to a portion of the message to which they mean to reply are skunks. Granny From bens Thu Aug 30 00:48:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U4mNY26003 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:48:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:48:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300448.f7U4mNT25999@minbar.fourfold.org> From: prsncat@aol.com To: Subject: Damn, resistance is futile... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have been resisting another LR for nearly 3 years (we sold my wife's Disco about 6 months ago). I also lost my entire copmuter system to a virus sent to me a couple of weeks ago so I lost all my bookmarks. I still lust after a reasonably priced Dormobile, but my price range won't allow one for what they are going for (Mr. Hess... don't give up on me yet). I can't afford to have a project around right now -- so I am looking for only rigs in decent condition. I sold my 95 Infiniti Q45 and SWMBO will only let me pay cash for the next vehicle (so I am serious in the $8-10K range and it is possible to get up to $15K for the right rig). I need a "reliable" daily driver and would prefer a 5-door 109 with overdrive. I was curious if anyone knew the red 1973 SIII 88 offered by Bernadette Bezy on LRX? Just curious... I really prefer a LWB but it sounds pretty. BTW, I get the digest... so send email directly. Brian Foster Irvine CA From bens Thu Aug 30 00:48:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U4mQ126012 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:48:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:48:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300448.f7U4mPc26008@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kevin Kelly" To: "Mendo List" Subject: Land Rover Motor Mounts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Since there was recent talk about Land Rover Motor Mounts breaking I thought someone might like to see the post below that was on the Range Rover list today: >For those that use their RR offroad you may already >know that the motor mounts are fairly weak. >I recently broke both of mine and found that most shops >replace them with the Disco mounts. The RR mounts are >10mm and the Disco are 12mm (and cheaper than the [ 3 additional quoted lines pruned. ] I've got a couple All Makes brand Range Rover motor mounts that have been sitting in the top of my tool box for a while. I have been planning to remove the entire motor mount bracket from the block since I've heard it is hard to jack the engine high enough to get the old ones out. Kevin Kelly P.S. I've never carried spare motor/tranny mounts since it is usually a lot easier to rig something up with a chain or strap to get home than to change a mount. From bens Thu Aug 30 01:56:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7U5u2S26387 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:56:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:56:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200108300556.f7U5u1C26383@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Kelly RE: comp test n leakdown Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Yes about the torn/broken seals. One was hardly in existence. Plews Tools #72-215, made in USA. My search engine only comes up with this: Satco Supply 2021 West County Road C2 Roseville, MN 55113 651-604-6602 / 800-328-4644 FAX# 651-604-6606 / Email: satco@mindspring.com http://www.tools4schools.com/auto_specials.htm And has it on special: Overhead valve spring compressor $17.98 Special $10.79 They also show a KD tool (KDT379) as a Small Engine Valve Spring Compressor. Not sure if it's an over head thing or not... Special price $14.59. They do make a specific over head compressor #KDT-3271 for $17.51 This site is probably only for schools (and Industry?)... Anyhow, hope this helps in some strange way! Later, Kelly Minnick >Hi, > > Wondering what number is on the KD tool? > Also have you found any torn or broken seals,Of the old ones? > [ 1 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 30 10:01:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UE1iX29032 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:01:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:01:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301401.f7UE1h129028@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Kelly RE: comp test n leakdown Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 10:56 PM 8/29/2001, you wrote: >Yes about the torn/broken seals. One was hardly in existence. Plews Tools >#72-215, made in USA. HI Kelly, That's what I meant about the double spring rubbing on the seal. I have seals that were torn way early in their life. Sherman's are bad,(not old either) and two spare heads that I have with the umbrella seals both have torn seals. In fact some of the seals moved up with the spring and are no longer on the guide. I believe the seals have somehow gotten a bit thicker and are now intended for the single valve spring only. Or possibly something in the vendor/supply channel is wrong. One if the guys at Britpac agreed with me a while back but had no answer except to buy a set of single springs, which I did. Of course the lazy things are still sitting on my shelf. About the tool, The two KD tools I have are bars with special ends so you can mount it on a pivot stud and lever the spring down then the U shaped opening allows you to remove the keepers. The old pre 55 chevy 6 version is for pivoting on the rocker shaft so it comes close to being right for the 2.25. But you need to mount a bare rocker shaft to use it, and a few things get in the way. This type is very steady. I recently bought one of the type that clamps on and compresses the spring. I tried it on a spare head on the bench, and it seemed a little flimsy or clumsy and I don't have a lot of confidence in it, and it was the better of the two I looked at. But maybe I could use the chev6 one for most, and the "clumsy clamper" for the few that it can't get to. Bob B From bens Thu Aug 30 10:06:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UE6KH29063 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:06:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:06:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301406.f7UE6Jt29059@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: KG6HSG Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Great going! Cheers, Gerry Yep, thats me!!!!! I got my call sign today! KG6HSG!!!! bye -- -- Leslie Johnston-Dow, Ph.D. Sequencing Software Group Lead, Applied Biosystems johnstln@appliedbiosystems.com 650-638-5104 KG6HSG From bens Thu Aug 30 10:09:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UE91R29096 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:09:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:09:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301409.f7UE90G29092@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Freeman, Ben" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Mendo_Recce digest: V2 #523 Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just thought I'd address this one....what happened is I didn't realize just how much people really like the wolf rims...an since few are willing to commit with cash I do it out of my own pocket thus I can only do soo much. Now I am planning to submit a much larger orger on the 15th of Sept. for 10-sets of 5. Of which with frank's interest in them I have 4 firm commitments thus far. An I'm nice and not even asking for deposits on them. Mainly because there is such a demand for them. I am hoping with the PDX-ABFM on Sat. more interest in LR parts will pick up. I do have possibly 3 40' containers comming but not confirmed as of yet. So my tiny little Land Rover Parts business is just getting off the ground. So anyone interested in helping the little guy...I'm happy to work with you. Happy Rovering... Oh here's my little -SPAM- Ben Freeman Independent Sales of Land Rover Trucks and Parts (360)537-5830 Office (360)580-1585 Cell Or at my day job-yes I have to have a real job...lol From bens Thu Aug 30 10:10:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UEAQi29123 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:10:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:10:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301410.f7UEAP929119@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Land Rover Motor Mounts Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org :that have been sitting in the top of my tool box for a :while. I have been planning to remove the entire motor :mount bracket from the block since I've heard it is hard to :jack the engine high enough to get the old ones out. I was in Costco earlier this week and they have a motorcycle lift that is good for 1,500 pounds. I wonder if something like this might be used for lifts like this? It has two bars if you will that have a bit of rubber matting on them spaced about ... oh...10-12 inches apart. <$100 too. Cheers, Gerry From bens Thu Aug 30 10:07:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UE7de29077 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:07:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:07:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301407.f7UE7cu29073@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Elam, Gerry (CORP)" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: RE: Pacificon, Ham Radio Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org And Pacifcon is kind of the western mecca for those interested in QRP/low power operating. This is the weekend we're doing the Devil's Highway but normally, I'd consider making a trip over. Cheers, Gerry Anyone planning on going to Pacificon? It's Oct 19-20-21 in Concord. There are what look like a pretty good series of forums on amateur radio/emergency services along with many other topics. Bruce Bonar From bens Thu Aug 30 10:42:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UEgf729296 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:42:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:42:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301442.f7UEgeH29292@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Benjamin Allan Smith To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pruned messages Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In message <200108300403.f7U43BH24837@minbar.fourfold.org>you wrote: > > Asto you specific case, I don't recall any excessively pruned > > messages. > Really? I've seen many messages, lately, pruned to where they don't make > any sense to me at all. Kelly's comment was that they were pruned to zero length. I have not seen anything pruned to zero lines (because if it does it gets bounced to me only as an error). > Seriously, I think 4 lines of quoted text is prunation in the extreme! I > suggest more on the order of 10-20 lines. I, for one, go to a great deal of > trouble to prune and usually interleave quoted text for meaningful replies. It is 4 lines per quoted section. If you interleave then the counter gets reset for each quoted section. > Replies with little or no quoted text tend to be meaningless unless you have > the original message handy or well in mind. I can't think of many cases where you need more than a sentence or two understand the context. But in any event, I've upped the limit to 8 lines. > On the other hand, those who reply to the digest without editing the > [pasting in the proper] subject line and pruning down to a portion of the > message to which they mean to reply are skunks. The worse offenders are those that reply and include the whole message at the bottom. Then someone replys to them and now both messages are at the bottom. Then the 3rd person replies.... This is the default behavior for many mail clients now. If you are on the realtime list, you don't notice because you never skroll down that far. I got a few dozen complains from digest people before I put the filter in place because that had too do so just to find the next message in the digest. Ben From bens Thu Aug 30 11:05:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UF5D629410 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:05:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:05:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301505.f7UF5CT29406@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Bruce R. Bonar" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pacificon, Ham Radio Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Oops. Sorry, I meant to include it with my original message: http://www.pacificon.org/ Bruce Jeff Rogers wrote: > where can i get more information on the event? do they have a wensite? > > > Anyone planning on going to Pacificon? It's Oct 19-20-21 in Concord. From bens Thu Aug 30 11:05:21 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UF5LI29422 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:05:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:05:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301505.f7UF5Kk29418@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Pruned messages Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org At 07:42 AM 8/30/2001, you wrote: > I can't think of many cases where you need more than a sentence or >two understand the context. But in any event, I've upped the limit to 8 >lines. Hi, I agree with what Ben says about the replies not being edited. The LRO digest is 2-3 times larger than it should be because some users reply with the complete digest included. I've discovered that with Eudora, if I highlight the part I wish to include, then after that I click the reply button, only what I highlighted in included. Bob B > The worse offenders are those that reply and include the whole > message >at the bottom. Then someone replys to them and now both messages are at the >bottom. Then the 3rd person replies.... This is the default behavior for >many mail clients now. If you are on the realtime list, you don't notice >. Ben From bens Thu Aug 30 15:23:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UJNJd30752 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:23:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:23:18 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301923.f7UJNId30748@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kerner, Rob" To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Range Rover rear seat covers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org So the Range Rover is getting prepped for its family duty (the rock sliders were the last off road accessory this truck will see for a while), so I need to find a rear seat cover to protect the leather from Baby fluids. Anyone have an opinion? -Rob From bens Thu Aug 30 15:34:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UJYlt30819 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:34:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:34:46 -0400 Message-Id: <200108301934.f7UJYk730815@minbar.fourfold.org> From: James Howard To: "'mendo_recce@fourfold.org'" Subject: Re: Range Rover rear seat covers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We decided not to worry about it in ours. It survived a Labrador with few ill effects. On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Kerner, Rob wrote: > > So the Range Rover is getting prepped for its family duty (the rock sliders > were the last off road accessory this truck will see for a while), so I need > to find a rear seat cover to protect the leather from Baby fluids. Anyone > have an opinion? > > -Rob > From bens Thu Aug 30 16:04:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7UK4fd30976 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:04:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:04:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108302004.f7UK4eq30972@minbar.fourfold.org> From: FHY To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover rear seat covers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org James Howard wrote: > We decided not to worry about it in ours. It survived a Labrador with few > ill effects. > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Kerner, Rob wrote: > > > > > So the Range Rover is getting prepped for its family duty (the rock sliders > > were the last off road accessory this truck will see for a while), so I need > > to find a rear seat cover to protect the leather from Baby fluids. Anyone [ 4 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Thu Aug 30 23:23:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7V3NUj00858 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 23:23:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 23:23:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108310323.f7V3NTo00854@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Kelly Minnick" To: Subject: RE: Kelly RE: comp test n leakdown Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi Bob- The seals I replaced were very old and appeared more like hard plastic rather than rubber like the new ones. I assumed they had dried out and cracked... The ones I put on the R.Rover were made by Fel-Pro and were Nylon. Basically an umbrella that fits over the guide, but does not 'snap' onto it like many of the European stem seals. I'm wondering if the nylon-type seal would work on the 2.25L?? The 'puller' type spring compressor is only used when I can't get to the 'other' side of the head. They are very slow and cumbersome. I did a friends 22R Toyota. All the head bolts go through the rockers. What a GREAT idea (read cheap). So, you pull the rocker towers off and you have oil & coolant going everywhere! As a side note, I asked my friend if he was going to put on anti-seize before installing his spark plugs. He told me he never does, but they are sometimes tight. He of course cross-threaded the plug holes and we had to chase them with a thread chasing tool. These are actually nice to have in your off-road kit I've found out. Anyhow, anti-seize is cheap! Back to compressors - When I did the R.Rover, I got to use my friends pneumatic compressor! It was like cheating. Of course the thing costs a small fortune, too. Take care, Kelly Minnick > HI Kelly, > That's what I meant about the double spring rubbing on the seal. I have > seals that were torn way early in their life. > Sherman's are bad,(not old either) and two spare heads that I have with > the umbrella seals both have torn seals. In fact some of the > seals moved up > with the spring and are no longer on the guide. > I believe the seals have somehow gotten a bit thicker and are now > intended [ 26 additional quoted lines pruned. ] From bens Fri Aug 31 00:19:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7V4Jw702130 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:19:58 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:19:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200108310419.f7V4JvS02126@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Leslie Dow To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover rear seat covers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org We used the pricy land rover nylon seat covers on the disco. They were kind of expensive but they did work amazingly well. We had kids, dogs, carseat grunge, nasty baby goo cookies etc etc and nothing went thorough the covers. They also stay on well enough that you can fold the seat down completely and not dislodge the cover. When we took them off (about once a year when the in-laws would visit) you could not tell that we had kids. I would definitely buy them again. leslie p.s. you know our kids so you can imagine the kind of abuse.... Kerner, Rob wrote: > So the Range Rover is getting prepped for its family duty (the rock sliders > were the last off road accessory this truck will see for a while), so I need > to find a rear seat cover to protect the leather from Baby fluids. Anyone > have an opinion? > > -Rob > > > -- -- Leslie Johnston-Dow, Ph.D. Sequencing Software Group Lead, Applied Biosystems johnstln@appliedbiosystems.com 650-638-5104 KG6HSG From bens Fri Aug 31 05:52:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7V9q1303798 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:52:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:52:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200108310952.f7V9q0h03794@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: brief desert recce report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Jason, Now that you've "exposed" one of my favorite places, I certainly hope that you stopped for a burger at the Black Rock Saloon... :) Charles (You should have been there to watch Breedlove do some runs on his jet car...) On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:10:18 -0400 Jason Pipes writes: > > > This is a very brief (yah, right) report of our desert recce. A much > more > detailed article will be in the next NCRC newsletter. The more > detailed > article will talk more about the recce in general, including the > geologic and > archaeological finds we encountered along the way! [ 162 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Fri Aug 31 05:52:00 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7V9q0003790 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:52:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:51:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108310951.f7V9px803786@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org, rovernet@lyris.ccdata.com Subject: Back for a while... Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Folks...I've been busy: Tuesday night - last week! Head up to northern California, and make my usual deliveries: on Thursday I made it back to Bakersfield, spent the night there, and had planned to drive back to L.A. the next day...ended up bouncing back to San Jose, THEN driving to L.A. that night! (Friday) I made it back home around 0330 Saturday morning. Now...at this point I should mention that from my own experiences, there are two companies that you should NEVER, EVER, rent a truck from, if you plan on moving your belongings over a great distance: Ryder, and U-Haul. ONLY USE Budget or Penske: they cost more, but they ain't gonna leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere. I have been telling people this for over 15 years, and I stand behind this statement to this day. (NOTE: U-Haul has great car trailers, but that's about it) Saturday afternoon... Left L.A., drove to Phoenix. Along the way, I spotted a broken Ryder truck towing a car trailer: on the trailer, a Series Land Rover SWB! I initially thought it was Karen's Red Rufy, but this particular Red Rufy had no Roof rack resting on the roof. (say that three times fast!) This was just west of Desert Center, along I-10 - literally 80 miles form civilization in either direction! I turned around, pulled over to talk with them to find they had been holding on their cellphone with Ryder for over 1 1/2 hours! They finally got a person on the line, got help, and so I gave them my last Pepsi and left (it was about 90f at 2100hrs out there). Didn't feel like staying in Phoenix this time (actually, I had no time...was supposed to be back in L.A. on Tuesday night to swap trucks, and head to the Bay area), and so I drove onwards to Eloy, and stopped there (was planning on stopping in Deming, N.M., but was too tired) Left Eloy Sunday at 1000hrs, drove to Deming, N.M. for breakfast, then drove via N.M. 26 to Hatch, then I-25 upto Springer, for fuel. Got there around 2200hrs (made a few stops along the way...Deming, Hatch, Lemitar,), and ended up talking to the young lady working behind the counter for 3 hours! (I know her from many past visits in the last 1 1/2 years), and met a couple that was driving a U-Haul truck to Denver, but had stopped just outside Albuquerque that morning - for 10 hours (!!!) to have the truck repaired! I looked at it - it being a U-Haul, and I slammed them with my curse..."You're not gonna make it up Raton Pass in that thing..." I finally left that truck stop at 0130, and began climbing Raton Pass: not 6 miles from the truck stop I come across the very same couple with their U-Haul on the shoulder of the road, antifreeze everywhere! I stop to see if I can do anything, but the husband said that the truck was terminally ill, and they too were on the phone with U-Haul for a good hour. While talking with the wife, I discover that (see earlier paragraph about Albuquerque) they had STARTED THEIR TRIP IN ALBUQUERQUE, and had only made it this far, (no more than 150 miles!) because the truck broke down that morning! They were envious when I told them I started in Eloy, Az. that morning. I remained with them for about an hour, when cops began flying down the road, lights and sirens blazing. a single one whizzed by us a few minutes later, turned around, and stopped where we were: he remained in his car for a few minutes (checking us out), then walked over and told us to get outta there - there was a prison break in the very town we were in, and 5 very dangerous inmates were on the loose!!!!!!!! I told the cop the couple needed a tow truck, and he called one for them, and I got outta there after instructiing the couple to stay in their car (the wife was following the husband in their second car) with engine running/doors locked, and to tear out of there if strangers walked upto them - got on my C.B. radio, and warned any and all truckers to NOT pick up any hitchikers Arrive in LaJunta, Co. Monday mid-day, deliver 3 boxes, and leave town just as the Ringling Bros. Circus train arrived! Spotted a wrecking yard there that seems to have LOTS of old American stuff - including a Vega wagon.....:) (I didn't have time to go in...), drove to Denver just in time to make the rest of my deliveries, THEN, I find that due to my bouncing back to San Jose the prior week, I didn't have enough driving hours left in a 8-day period to legally drive back to L.A. until LAST NIGHT! So...drove to Green River Ut. for fuel/sleep Monday night, then on to Las Vegas - and spent Tuesday night/all day yesterday/last night there, and left around 2200hrs last night (by the time I hit a weigh station in California, it was past midnight, and I had enough hours to be legal again) In Glenwood Springs, Co., I spotted a Defender 110 at the hot springs near the highway, and a MGTD on a car dolly near Green River. Also, in Beaver, Ut. I spotted a red MGB-GT in a backyard, and in Mesquite, Nv. that red Metropolitan still sits on a car trailer in a driveway. For the music lovers... Along I-70 in Utah/I-15 into Vegas, I was driving along with the tour busses for a rap group called St. Lunatics (?), and at the TA truck stop in Vegas, I got to chat with the roadies for The Misfits! They're doing a 25th anniversary tour. NOTE: Sept.26th, at the KeyClub in Hollywood, there's going to be a record release party for the Dead Kennedy's!!!!!!! (yes - they're back together!) Did a run to Fresno today (got home at 0330 last night!), and just got home again...on the way here, I spotted a CHP officer writing a ticket to the driver of a Bricklin! They want me to work tomorrow, I sai hell no: haven't had a day off in 10 days! A week from Labor Day, I start my new job - and will be able to get vehicles on the road again in a few months thereafter!!!!! Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Fri Aug 31 12:42:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VGgKl05952 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:42:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:42:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200108311642.f7VGgKA05948@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Mehdi & Christine" To: Subject: RE: comp n leak down Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Blair, the new head will be easy to put in. An afternoon job. I would not do for the SU however. I would keep the stock intake and go with Rochester and use my air filter bath. You can try to rebuild the Solex and see how it does and that way you are still original. I took the family in the 109 to Tahoe for camping a few week back, I tell you never again. 7:1 compression, high elevation, heavy 109 with camping gear and heavy dippers :) The last 30 miles up the hill was all second gear and almost shoulder driving, so all these big truck and SUV's would not shoot us. The trip back was great down hill. So 8:1 or ARC(ACR?) 9:1 head would do a 109 a lot of good. Take care, and hopefully we see you on the fall color trip. Mehdi >>modification curiosity have me interested in the SU setup. That and the >>fact that my Solex is on its last legs. O From bens Fri Aug 31 12:57:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VGvxE06063 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:57:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:57:59 -0400 Message-Id: <200108311657.f7VGvxL06059@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: brief desert recce report Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >Jason, > >Now that you've "exposed" one of my favorite places, I certainly hope >that you stopped for a burger at the Black Rock Saloon... We stopped there, but we got pizza instead. We had stopped earlier at the only other place to eat in town but left when we didn't see anything we wanted on the menu. Pizza is universal and was available at the Saloon. Interestingly enough, on my way out of the first place I dropped a single quarter into one of the slot machines and pulled the lever - and won 20 bucks in quarters! On my first and only try! I decided not to press my luck and left without spending another cent. The newly won quarters came in handy when washing the truck when we got back! Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Fri Aug 31 13:08:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VH8iO06130 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:08:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:08:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200108311708.f7VH8hH06126@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: comp n leak down Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Mehdi, How 'bout a 2.5 cam? I hear it can make a big difference by itself. Or better - a 2.25 diesel conversion...:) Charles On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:42:20 -0400 "Mehdi & Christine" writes: > > > Blair, the new head will be easy to put in. An afternoon job. I > would not > do for the SU however. I would keep the stock intake and go with > Rochester > and use my air filter bath. You can try to rebuild the Solex and > see how it > does and that way you are still original. [ 21 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Fri Aug 31 14:19:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VIJ3T06439 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:19:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:19:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200108311819.f7VIJ2f06435@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Jason Pipes To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Some great recent sightings - some a little less recent than others! Just after the Blue Lakes trip I was at a gas station on Hwy 1 in Pacifica to get change to wash the 110. When I came out to the truck there was a guy looking inside the vehicle - he was very interested. I greeted him and it turned out he was some wealthy businesman from Guatamala on a motorcycle trip to Alaska. He mentioned that he noticed my 110 and thought it was awesome, and that he also used to have a 110 and still does have a 90 and a Camel Trophy Disco he uses all the time in the Jungles where he lives! Pretty neat! I told him about NCRC and directed him to the site. He invited me and any guests to visit him and stay next time we're in his area! On Tuesday afternoon of this week while in Berkley I saw and stopped to look at a well worn, light stone/yellowish colored, SII 88 (wire grill w/ lights on fenders) parked in a Chevron parking lot on the corner of Telegraph and Ashby across the street from Whole Foods. No indication that it was for sale, but it did look to be sitting there for awhile at least - had chocks under the rear wheels. Under the wiper was a business card with XOXOXOX written on it!! Yesterday while driving around the city a bunch my brother and I spotted two NCRC series trucks, both 88s. One in the Haight on Haight parked in front of a music store and the other in North Beach parked in the hills towards Coit Tower. Both had the NCRC sticker prominently displayed. The first 88 was nicely kitted out and if I recall correctly, was also a light stone/yellowish color, but I could be wrong. The one in North Beach was super duper kitted out with rack, lights, winch, stickers, high lift, etc, etc. It was blue and was also well worn. Also recently spotted a white soft top D90 parked in the lot of the radio station just off of 101 north near 3Com Park. Probably no one in NCRC, but you never know!! Lastly, I've ran into Dan Oppenheim in his rig 3 times while in the city during the last month. Jason Pipes jpipes@feldgrau.com www.feldgrau.com From bens Fri Aug 31 14:55:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VItar06637 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:55:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:55:35 -0400 Message-Id: <200108311855.f7VItZk06633@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Eugene H. Simpson III" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: sightings Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Just returned from a couple of weeks in and around Yerevan, Armenia. Sighted a fair number of Discos, but not even 1 Rangie or Series on the street. Spotted the same 2 white D110 TDIs (one with Hellas) several times around the city. No chance to talk to their drivers. One day, lo and behold, there was the BMW/Land Rover-Yerevan dealership. Went inside to find a brand new 1998 model Rangie with US$ 65,000 sticker amidst a bunch of BMWs. Dealer had no parts counter, no literature, no business card, or any sort of souvenir. Service area had only 3 bays (working on 325is), and no power tools or electronic diagnosis gear to be seen. Manager was totally unaware of the Ford connection to LR. I thought it to be a bit ironic to see such a dealership in a city where per capita monthly income seldom exceeds US$ 30. Lots of Russian UAZes sighted, including some very old ones our driver said were '50s-early '60s. They look kind of like an 88 with curved front wings/running boards from an MGTD, and the engine looks very similar to a lr in-line 4. The UAZes of the 60s-80s appear to be at least first cousins to the 88. It's good to be back, although sans souvenir. Maybe I was only dreaming. Gene Simpson Auburn, AL '64 SIIA 88 "Fetch" '97 Disco SE-7 "Oui Geaux" '95 Dodge Pickup From bens Fri Aug 31 15:25:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VJPUq06796 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:25:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:25:29 -0400 Message-Id: <200108311925.f7VJPTY06792@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: L.A.'s very own "Burning Man"...(no content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Was just watching the news to see what's new... Santa Clarita, Ca. - ATF/County Sheriff's went to arrest a man that has been posing as a U.S. Marshall. Gun battle ensued, one deputy dead, the man barricaded himself into his home which is now burning around him, due to the Sheriff's SWAT team lobbing incindaries into the upper floor windows! I say incindaries, because the "Under Sheriff" just had a press conference, in which he said that "NO tear gas had been fired at the home"....gee, they fired something at it, according to the video from the news choppers! Just by the numbers: take the top floor off the house, and if the rest doesn't burn, then you have another access point to crash in on the guy - if he's still alive. (fire crews are hosing down the roof - somewhat) Apparently, they're letting it burn, because they have no idea what the guy has inside - having been posing as a Federal officer, he could have anything. At least it's better than Jerry Springer! Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Fri Aug 31 15:53:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VJrfY06917 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:53:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:53:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108311953.f7VJreP06913@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: L.A.'s very own "Burning Man"...(no content) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org It gets better... One news channel is claiming the suspect has a SAM in his garage! The fire dept isn't even trying to put the fire out - though they've been spraying adjacent houses since it started. Now they're saying that the ATF agent/deputy had words with the suspect, he went back into the house - his girlfriend left via the garage door. The deputy then tried to enter the house via an open window - and was shot. All I know for sure, is they're deliberately trying to kill the guy - yet claiming they're still talking to him on the phone. Oh well... Charles ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Fri Aug 31 16:46:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VKkf407209 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:46:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:46:40 -0400 Message-Id: <200108312046.f7VKkeV07205@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: comp n leak down Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org The SU's don't work on left-hand drive because they foul the steering gear. People that have them, seem to like them, however. Doubt that just changing carb without the cam or head will get you much. I've always run weber two barrels. Performance was okay but nothing to write home about. Doing a home made port and polish, milling head to 8-1 specs, and the 2.5 cam really boosted the HP. Don't think doing just one of the upgrades, alone, would make much of a difference as you need all the things together to boost power. If I was going to make only one improvement it would be milling the head another 50 thou (on an 8-1 head) to get compression up to 9-1. Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: "Mehdi & Christine" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: >Subject: RE: comp n leak down >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:42:20 -0400 > >Blair, the new head will be easy to put in. An afternoon job. I would not >do for the SU however. I would keep the stock intake and go with Rochester >and use my air filter bath. You can try to rebuild the Solex and see how [ 17 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Fri Aug 31 17:18:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VLIpD07378 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:18:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:18:51 -0400 Message-Id: <200108312118.f7VLIp807374@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: More on Tires (was Cooper CTD in Warehouse) Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In a message dated 8/28/01 6:50:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, MewGull@Mugele.net writes: << I'm looking for 235/85/16s. They're going on 6.5" rims that the D90 will be wearing. >> The RR is wearing 235/85 Goodyear MT/Rs on 6.5" Wolf wheels this summer and the combination is working very well--wide enough, and tall enough for good ground clearance (required some "alterations" to the rear dust seals on the RR) For those looking for mud tires, have a look at these new Goodyears. (found cheapest at Tirerack.com) They are quite effective ;-) Kevan Wiser 87 RR From bens Fri Aug 31 17:44:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VLida07511 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:44:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:44:38 -0400 Message-Id: <200108312144.f7VLicW07507@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Hope Peter" To: Subject: Re: comp n leak down Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org > The SU's don't work on left-hand drive because they foul the steering gear. FYI, ACR has told me that there SU side draft set up does NOT foul the stearing or powerbrake system on the NADA left hand drive vehicles. > People that have them, seem to like them, however. Doubt that just changing > carb without the cam or head will get you much. I've always run weber two > barrels. Performance was okay but nothing to write home about. Doing a > home made port and polish, milling head to 8-1 specs, and the 2.5 cam really > boosted the HP. I am currently running the ACR stage I head and power plus cam. Clifford header, custom 2" exhaust. Pierce heated manifold and 2bbl weber 32/36dgv carb. Electric cooling fan. Petronix ignition and coil. Accel 8mm wires. My carb is still over jetted and I am running very rich. I also have not done anything to the lower end yet. 160k miles, compression is 139-144 in all four cylinders (8-1 compression) I have 33" tires and an overdrive. On flat roads I am able to pull 75mph @ 3500rpms. This is on my 88" with the 'custom' frame. I will be getting the thing shipped to Seattle in another week and will get it weighed in conjunction with the move. Nice to know...thinking it's in the 4500 range with the softtop. Pete From bens Fri Aug 31 17:44:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VLiEw07500 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:44:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:44:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108312144.f7VLiDv07496@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Biophilian@aol.com To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: Range Rover rear seat covers Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org In a message dated 8/30/01 12:24:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kerner@vegmail.ucdavis.edu writes: << I need to find a rear seat cover to protect the leather from Baby fluids. Anyone have an opinion? >> Rob, Congrats on the little one! My RR has cloth interior ('87) and it has sustained no unwashable stains as a result of formula or milk or other "fluids." Same for our Volvo XC that DOES have leather and is the primary baby-mobile Andrea uses daily. In fact, the leather is easier to clean-up than the cloth--just a damp cloth gets it off even after it has sat there for days (it's her car not mine!) I wouldn't worry too much, but I've seen good covers offered by both BP and RN. Personally, I'd invest the money in a case of those little yellow foam ear-plugs and a few air-fresheners. Later you'll probably want something to guard the back of your head from thrown objects, but that won't be for a while ;-D Kevan Wiser '87 RR From bens Fri Aug 31 18:51:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VMp4s07854 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:51:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:51:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200108312251.f7VMp3n07850@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Peter Ogilvie" To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: comp n leak down Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org What Peter failed to mention are those 33" tires are actually fat donuts. Think they are 12.50's. Thats a lot of rubber to get up to 75mph on the highway. His "custom" frame is built out of 1/8" or thicker walled rectangular tubing. Its a might bit heavier and stronger than the stock frame. Peter, Did ACR change the manifold?? They used to not reccomend it because the carbs would contact the power brake donut on LH drive trucks. Looked like they could have canted the carb up a bit or done some other small modifications to make it work. Aloha Peter Ogilvie Kona Coffee Rover 1970 88 soft top, 'huli' Mine since '84 but recovering from exposure of the dark side. 1966 109 pickup 'slime' In my garage since '90, finally running. 1965 88 parts car, slowly sinking into the lava. 196? 88 hard top, possibly 'phoenix' if it rises, it will certainly be from ashes or at least a pile of rust >From: "Hope Peter" >Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org >To: >Subject: Re: comp n leak down >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:44:38 -0400 > > > The SU's don't work on left-hand drive because they foul the steering >gear. > [ 30 additional quoted lines pruned. ] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From bens Fri Aug 31 19:23:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VNN7I07991 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:23:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:23:06 -0400 Message-Id: <200108312323.f7VNN6w07987@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Charles R Irvin To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: Re: comp n leak down Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org I have to beg to differ with that: There's a fellow that used to be on the worldwide list, (dunno where he is now...he moved out here last year, but I think he has since moved to Taos N.M.) that had a Series III with a ACR head with a single SU, and clearance definately wasn't a problem at all...making up a linkage for it was, but no clearance problem. (I can't remember if it was a cable operated carb, or if it had actual linkage, ala TR3/4) This, and a Ashcroft transfer case, and it was one sweet machine - 75mph with no overdrive without over-revving the engine was the norm, and it still retained the same off-road ability. Charles On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:46:40 -0400 "Peter Ogilvie" writes: > > The SU's don't work on left-hand drive because they foul the > steering gear. > People that have them, seem to like them, however. Doubt that just > changing > carb without the cam or head will get you much. I've always run > weber two > barrels. Performance was okay but nothing to write home about. > Doing a [ 43 additional quoted lines pruned. ] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From bens Fri Aug 31 19:51:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f7VNpEH08131 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:51:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:51:13 -0400 Message-Id: <200108312351.f7VNpDN08127@minbar.fourfold.org> From: Bob & Sue Bernard To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Subject: RE: Kelly RE: comp test n Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Kelly, I see you are talking about seals on the V8. Oh well I was discussing the 4cyl 2.25 when I mentioned the double springs hitting the seals. Bob B From bens Fri Aug 31 21:21:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by minbar.fourfold.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f811Leu08532 for mendo_recce-outgoing; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:21:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:21:39 -0400 Message-Id: <200109010121.f811Ld008528@minbar.fourfold.org> From: "Aidan McLeer" To: Subject: Sightings !! Sender: owner-mendo_recce@fourfold.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mendo_recce@fourfold.org Hi there A customer at our shop in Redding who usually drives a 1998 RR 4.6HSE WITH supercharger pull's up in a Mercedes G-500, Not just any G Wagon but a 2000 G-500 tuned by Brabus !!!, the motor has been enlarged to 5.8 from 5.0 and the power output is 375 HP !!!!!!!!!!!!, Xenon headlights and all the other goodies..... >From underneath it looks like new RR rear axel setup and the front looks like Classic RR/ Disco...... Later Aidan ---------------------------------------------------- NetZero Platinum Sign Up Today -