From: mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us Subject: Digest for Mendo_Recce: 7/31/1995 Errors-To: owner-mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us Reply-To: mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us Precedence: bulk This is the digest for the mendo_recce Land Rover mailling list ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 08:37:12 -0700 From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Subject: Re: Transfer You wrote: > So I pick up the phone >and cal BP (Next day service from here). That will be $24. Say what? Marty >told me that LR had a huge price increase in Jan. Yeah, I know. The 3% thing? >Oh, no. This part went up 100%. Hmm! So I get off the phone and call AB. >Same price (BTW, part #90217488)... Well, I know 2nd gear washer (267572) >was 3.5lbs from cradock and 3rd gear (RTC1962) was 3.14lbs. Guess I should >have asked for those prices! I know 239272 (split ring) was 1.58lbs. and >$5.48 from BP. OK, for the following, each of these shafts cost between >$150 and $175 from BP. This is what we paid: >Rear output (591429 & 8566) 35.61lbs >Main shaft (264250) 36.75 lbs >Lay shaft (528703) 29.40 lbs > >I guess I did not know the secret password. Either they have cheap fixed >prices, or I'm only going to use them in an emergency... That is just MY >opinion. >Kelly Minnick > Secret Password: DINGOCROFT The problem seems to be the US dealers are not going to be competing very well in what is inherently a global market place. I do hope BPs prices stabilize a bit more realistically, but there seem to be a lot of factors F'ing things up at the moment. cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 08:56:07 -0800 From: jfhess@ucdavis.edu (John Hess) Subject: thanks Cc: mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us Bob and Sue, Thanks for a great trip. As Sue was saying at the garnet mine, you never what what'll appeal to everyone but I think you will get raves from at least 99% of the participants. I enjoyed the base camp, the trails, lunch at the lake (what was the name?) the garnet hunt and would have liked to hunt for petroglypghs but that can be next year? (hint). I also enjoyed the snippets about wild life rehab. So much to talk about with some many different people who are infected with Land-Rover-itis! As usual, too much food, drink and camaraderie. Too much being just enough! I guess my prediction of 20 people each bringing enough food for 40 people came true. A few more people had smores this time, but alex will be eating the left overs for awhile. (You CAN roast marshmellows over a gas stove). Thanks alot, see you again John, Kathy and Alex. John F. Hess, PhD Phone me 916 752 8420 Dept of Cell Bio. and Hum. Anat. FAX me (ask first) University of Calif Davis, CA Email me jfhess@ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 10:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Russell Subject: Paradise broke... Now, as I recall, I swore I wasn't going to break anything, right. Well, so far the initial assesment is one tweeked bumper, two broken engine mounts, and a snapped intermediate exhaust pipe. And that's without looking for thing wrong. Coulda been worse though. And it should all be pretty easy to put back right before Portland so I'm happy. But, boy is it full of dust. So am I. But, ten or twelve pounds lighter due to some much, much fatter insects. Great trip!!!!!! Lots of extra credit to the Range Rover and Disco owners. Fantastic. But, I'll leave the story telling to the real story tellers. Eric, please e-mail me your address so I can get your replacment on the way to you --- many, many, many thanks TeriAnn, Berkeley at 00:45 so it was a pretty good esitmate. BobandSue, thanks for putting all this together!!!!!!!! Jim Russell ==== jrussell@netcom.com (Seattle -- San Francisco) ------------------------------------ From: "Mugele, Gerry" Subject: Pair a dice found Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:22:00 PDT Bobby-Sue, Thanks...I needed that. Very enjoyable excursion and nice to have some of the Net-Impaired attending. Fun, dust, sun, dust, food, dust, dehydration, a little dust, interesting conversations, some dirt and dust, beautiful country, a bit of dust on the windshield and I discovered that I can have 4wd when I really work at it. 8^D Sorry some of our antiques had some failures. Gooey seems to have suffered not a bit, 'cept for a little dust EVERYWHERE! and some new engravings in the paint. Love my new D90 mirror! The Weasel had a great time too of course...thank you all for your tolerance. Bill Howell (Gooey's PO) enjoyed himself and has acknowledged that while we are all slightly crazed we are well worth knowing. BTW because someone (I forgot who) asked his addr is WHHowell@ccnet.com. Only real breakdown we had was fried brains while driving down the Sacramento Valley with heat making it feel like the cab of a steam locomotive.. Geez that shower felt great. Oh yeah did anyone else notice that there was some dust up there? ------------------------------------ Date: 31 Jul 1995 11:58:08 -0800 From: "Rusty Greer" Subject: Re: Pair a dice found Message Subject: RE>Pair a dice found Dust? What dust? Rusty -------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Date: 7/31/95 11:50 AM From: mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.c Bobby-Sue, Thanks...I needed that. Very enjoyable excursion and nice to have some of the Net-Impaired attending. Fun, dust, sun, dust, food, dust, dehydration, a little dust, interesting conversations, some dirt and dust, beautiful country, a bit of dust on the windshield and I discovered that I can have 4wd when I really work at it. 8^D Sorry some of our antiques had some failures. Gooey seems to have suffered not a bit, 'cept for a little dust EVERYWHERE! and some new engravings in the paint. Love my new D90 mirror! The Weasel had a great time too of course...thank you all for your tolerance. Bill Howell (Gooey's PO) enjoyed himself and has acknowledged that while we are all slightly crazed we are well worth knowing. BTW because someone (I forgot who) asked his addr is WHHowell@ccnet.com. Only real breakdown we had was fried brains while driving down the Sacramento Valley with heat making it feel like the cab of a steam locomotive.. Geez that shower felt great. Oh yeah did anyone else notice that there was some dust up there? ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ id AA73212; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:50:14 -0700 (5.67/23-Oct-1991-eef) id AA08621; Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:46:47 -0700 for (v8-modified-1701D/8.6-RIDGENET-RIDGENET) id LAA10141 for mendo_recce-out; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:39:51 -0700 ------------------------------------ From: "Mugele, Gerry" Subject: Pair a dice found Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 11:22:00 PDT ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Subject: Transfer Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:38:36 PDT OK. I was a little hard on our BP friends. Sorry. Must have been in a bad mood since I couldn't go off roading! Sounds like everyone had some good fun. I would have finished this trans except the high gear in the transfer box (mounted to the rear output) has too much wear. I got my new thrust washer from BP and chisseled off the friction-welded washer off of the high gear.... Did this thing ever have oil in it? The book calls out a clearance of .006 to .008" I'm measuring .028" Hmm! This is the gear prices we've found: BP $79 RN $81 AB $59 Paddock 19 lbs I guess this was a case in point. But shipping and availability.... Glad everyone enjoyed the dust. We love the dust down here. It keeps the folks down in LA! Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: BobandSueB@aol.com Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:54:06 -0400 Subject: Pair-O-Dice NotaRallye Hi all, Bob and I would like to thank all of you for coming up to share a little bit of Paradise with us this past weekend. Hope you all enjoyed it as much as we did. The attendees list looks like this:Participation looks like the following: Bob & Sue Paradise Bruce & Stephanie San Rafael (D90) Morgan Hannaford Berkeley Vance Chin San Leandro (rode with Morgan) Jim Russell San Francisco John,Kathy & Alex Hess Davis (DM) Gerry Mugele & ? San Francisco Eric,Bridget & Bret Cope Angles Camp Jimmy Patrick Los Gatos TeriAnn Wakeman Aptos Geoff Tobin Los Gatos Peter Wong & crowd Sunnyvale Roger Sinasohn & Rachel San Francisco Jeremy Bartlett & Susan Berkeley (D90) John Hong San Jose Granville Pool Redwood Valley Steve Hill Sacramento - only stayed a short while Sat. Eric & Ann Mills & Ian Concord (DM) Henry Nesmith & Kristina Los Altos (RR) Ed King Chico Matt Francis + 1 Santa Rosa (riding with Ed King) Dan Connor + 1 Santa Rosa Zack Piner + 2 St. Helena (D90) Rusty Greer, Elizabeth & baby Los Gatos (Disco) Ben Smith Ridgecrest Total head count was 46. Sorry I forgot some names. Cheers, Sue ------------------------------------ From: "Mugele, Gerry" Subject: FW: Pair a dice found Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:54:00 PDT >>Dust? What dust? >>Rusty You are too cruel...and I suppose the heat didn't bother you on the way home either. Hah...hope your evaporator freezes over! But then again...wanna trade vehicles for a day or too? ;-) Gerry ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Subject: Rear mat Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 12:40:14 PDT RE: rear load mat - D90 Vance or Morgan, Do you remember the LR part # for the D90 wrap-around rear load mat? I've decided to finally place another order and would like the part # if you have it... Thanks Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: brian.foster@ccmailsmtp.ast.com Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:30:57 PST Subject: August 95 LCLR Who-B-Who List Can't believe it is that time again... I know there are a few "lurkers" out there that haven't added their name, so c'mon and send me a message lettin' the rest of us know who'ya are! UrHmblSrvnt, Brian Foster ===========August, 95 Left Coast Land Rovers Who's Who List ================== Only Land Rover vehicles are listed. This list is created solely for the information and enjoyment of those on the Internet-accessible Land Rover interest list. It may not be used for any commercial purposes. The use of this list also falls under the appropriate use policy of your internet access provider. Be familiar with this policy and heed its limitations regarding use of the internet resources for commercial purposes. Telephone numbers are provided merely for the convenience of the mailling list users' private use -- violation of this is subject to... well we'll find out who you are get you one way or another. All adds, deletions, changes, and queries regarding this list should be sent directly to Brian Foster at brian.foster@ast.com with "LROWW" in the subject line(!). In addition to your own information, I would appreciate any notes stating that other persons on the list have already left and their entries are no longer valid. For additions and changes, please provide responses in the following format: Model Year Purchase_Date First_name Last_name Location Optional using a space to separate each field and an underscore to indicate a space. A question mark ("?") is placed in those fields where no information is available for simpler conversion to HTML. for example, my listing is: Range_Rover_SWB 88 92/09 114K Brian Foster CA,Rancho_Santa_Margarita Also list any assistance you can provide to list members (offers for assistance in the area should include phone numbers). Enjoy! ================= Who is Who in PCLRO =============================== Defender_90 94 95/04 David Allen CA,San_Diego Voice: 619.535.7424 Series_IIA_SWB_Safari_SEYMOUR 66 95/03 Nick_C Baggarly Los_Gatos,CA LROs, stop by and sample my homebrew while we discuss our aluminum best friends Defender_90_'Weeble' 94 ? Jeremy Bartlett CA,Berkeley Series_II_A_109_'Mathilda' 67 95/04 Jeremy Bartlett CA,Berkeley Series_III_88" ? ? Jory Bell ? Series_IIA_88" 88 ? John R. Benham WA,Spokane Series_II_88"_Station_Wagon_Safari_Roof 65 77/00 Bob_&_Sue Bernard CA,Paradise If you're out and about, and need the phone number of a fellow LROA member, just call us... we maintain the directory ya know. Mechanical Assistance & LRO's Always Welcome 916.877.5656 Series_II_88"_Pick_Up 60 94/05 Bob_&_Sue Bernard CA, Paradise Series_I_80"_No_top_Chevy_4_Cyl 51 83/00 Bob_&_Sue Bernard CA,Paradise Series_IIA_109_3-door 67 ? Brad Blevins CA,Concord Defender_90_"Spot" 94 94/05 Bruce Bonar CA,San_Rafael Range_Rover 89 95/03 Jay Bryant CA,Foothill_Ranch 714.565.6948 Series_III_88" ? ? Vance Chin CA,SF_Bay_area Series_II_A_88 61 95/03 Dan_(Dan_of_Rosa) Connor CA,Santa_Rosa I have a degree in photography, and two couches in downtown Rosa. If my Rover is running, I'll help you fix yours. 707.546.4277 Series_II_A_109"_Stationwagon_w/NADA_6-cyl_ 67 Eric Cope CA,Angels_Camp Up in the Sierra Nevada foothill's motherlode country. LROs are invited to visit, camp on our small ranch, & enjoy the local trails. Series_II_A_88"_hardtop 64 ? Eric Cope CA,Angels_Camp Range_Rover 88 93/09 Brian_&_Stacey Foster CA,Rancho_Santa_Margarita Assitance:Will provide any kind of assistance from coffee chat to a ride wherever to get a part. Not very mechanically inclined, but I'll help/provide tools. Phone:1-500-FOSTER-5 home/work from 7AM-11PM Discovery 94 94/08 Rusty Greer CA,Los_Gatos Series_II_88"_Pickup 65 ? William L. Grouell ? Series_II_A_88"_Station_Wagon 64 ? William L. Grouell ? Series_?_88" ? ? Morgan Hanniford CA,Berkeley Series_II_A_109_SW_6-cyl_Dormobile 68 94/11 John,Katherine,&_Alex Hess CA,Davis Willing to provide whatever assistance I can. Lumpy futon to sleep on, some food, some beer, some tools, a hydraulic jack and the two volume workshop manuals. Plus, all the mineral fortified davis water you can drink! For free! 916.753.2970 (h) 916.752.8420 (w-John) Series_III_88 74 90/?? John Hong CA,Santa_Clara 408.249.8340 Series_III_? ? ? Robert_&_Cynthia Kerner CA,Davis_(plans_to_move_to) Discovery 95 95/05 Clayton Kirkwood CA,Rocklin Series_II_A_Hardtop_SWB_'Ganesh,remover_of_obstacles' 70 94/12 Jason LaBranch CA,Emeryville Range_Rover_Hunter 91 92/03 Harry_and_Iris Matthews CA,Davis Professor of Biological Chemistry [WWW home page http://ocsbcm01.ucdavis.edu] Range_Rover_County 91 95/03 Kelly Minnick CA,Ridgecrest Series_III_88"_Safari 73 92/10 Kelly Minnick CA,Ridgecrest Series_III_88" 72 77/12 Gerry Mugele ? CA,Glen_Ellen Defender_90_a.k.a._Gunny 94 94/05 Stephan O'Hearn <72700.3262@compuserve.com> CA,El_Segundo Assistance: Ask and I'll try. Series_II_88"_Hardtop ? ? Jimmy Patrick ? Discovery_'Algernon' 95 95/04 Bob Peterson CA,Portola_Valley Series_III_88"_Hardtop_Not_running 74 87/00 Granville Pool CA,Redwood_Valley Series_III_88"_Hardtop_Driven_daily 73 94/08 Granville Pool CA,Redwood_Valley Series_II_88"_Station_wagon_Not_running 61 94/11 Granville Pool CA,Redwood_Valley Series_II_88"_Station_wagon_Not_running 60 94/09 Granville Pool CA,Redwood_Valley Series_I_80"_No_top_No_running_gear 52 82/00 Granville Pool CA,Redwood_Valley Series_II_88"_Hardtop_Parts_vehicle ? 94/08 Granville Pool CA,Redwood_Valley Series_II_A_88"_SW 66 76/00 Jim Russell CA,SF-WA,Seattle Land_Rover_LWB 59 91/05 Roger Sinasohn CA,San_Francisco My best # is 415.469.7924. If I'm not there, (and assuming the voicemail system is working -- Ha!) press the * key and follow the prompts to page me. For company code, enter LRO (576); that way I'll know it's something important. I'm also in the phone book, but if you get confused as to which Sinasohn is me (there are oh so many!), it doesn't matter. They're all kin. (And if you have troubles, feel free to call one of them and tell them you're one of my Rover buds and they should help you, I said so.) Visits from LRO's always welcome; Spare couch may be available for weary travelers. (call first) Land_Rover_SWB 72 93/07 Roger Sinasohn CA,San_Francisco Series_III_88"_HardTop 72 90/03 Benjamin Smith CA,Ridgecrest Series_III?_88 72 94/01 Tom Spoto WA,Bellingham If I'm in the area (I work away) and you desire some sort of assistance be it local knowledge or help with a tuneup or whatever drop a line. Series_II_A?_88 67 75/05 Tom Spoto WA,Bellingham Series_II_A_Safari_109 67 94/12 Walt Swain CA,Davis Series_II_109"_2-door 60 78/03 TeriAnn Wakeman CA,Santa_Cruz Discovery_(waiting_for_delivery_of) 95 ? Bryan White CA,Santa_Clara ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:48:54 -0700 From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Subject: Paradise Lost (Parts I've Lost) Thanks again to BobandSue for the organization of the rallye. Roger hope you made the trip from Paradise (odd name that) OK. Good luck on the diff. Although I didn't get in at the second round of boulder hopping, I'd like to thank Roger (and Indy 1 and crew) for continuing my education in vehicular field surgery and remote vehicle recovery (ya gotta laugh Roger :)). - Ah so that's how a trashed axle looks, yea right Ben all tie rods are that easy to get out! uh huh.- Hmmm. now I wonder just how many Series vehicles a D90 can tow? On second thought maybe I don't want to find out. Ben and Geoff a big thanks for your assistance in the 109 recovery. Morgan I've got you're pickle fork device and the tie rods (I think :)). Talk to Ben though - you don't need pickle forks to remove tie rods :) Cheers, Jeremy '94 D90 (Lazy Bugger Recover Unit) '65 SIIA 109 SW (Mathilda) ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:29:40 -0700 From: "TeriAnn Wakeman" Subject: British Pacific I contacted them to let them know that their aol address will not work outside of aol. They should be changing it soon. I suggested an underscore for the space. TeriAnn ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:11:08 -0700 From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Subject: Re: Paradise Lost (Parts I've Lost) Cc: mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us You wrote: > >Rats! I hate it when I send the bloody thing before I writing it. > >Anyway, think I have Morgans tie rod ends and removal tool. At least, I >have someones!!!!!!!!! > > Jim Russell ==== jrussell@netcom.com > (Seattle -- San Francisco) > Must be Morgan's. I didn't see them when unpacking but hadn't unpacked all the equipment boxes where they'd be. I'll check tonight?? for now its a safe bet they're Morgan's unless the damn things are breeding. Hmmm. you might want to hold onto those and go into the parts business selling tie rods every couple of days - of course they'd be after market wouldn't they? :) Cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: "Dale W. Avery" Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:22:10 +1100 Subject: Re: August 95 LCLR Who-B-Who List Guess I can finally make it official, though its still not licensed... Series_III_88" '73 95/07 "Beast" Dale Avery avery@wfoclan.usbm.gov ------------------------------------ From: UncleBrad@aol.com Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 20:29:14 -0400 Subject: Re: air conditioning Didn't I read last week that someone had a Land Rover air conditioning unit for sale? Anyone know who that is and what his phone number is? Brad Blevins ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:33:59 -0700 From: jory@org.org (jory bell) Subject: Re: 5 speeds for LR Cc: lro@team.net, mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us Greg Hiner wrote: :Advance Adapters in the US 805 238-7000 fax 805 238-4201 imports an adapted :heavy duty Nissan 4 & 5 speed transmission from Mark's 4WD Adaptors in :Australia (03-793-3388) that is modified to bolt directly to the LR :transfer case. Bellhousings available for Holden 6 cylinder, Ford 6 :cylinder, Range Rover and Leyland V8s and Isuzu Diesels (as well as Nissan :diesels). At the time when I got the info (1994) there was no bellhousing :available for the 2.25. They were supposed to come out with one soon :however. Though the transmission bolts directly to the transfer case I do :believe that it is longer than the original 4 speed so you will need to :shift the engine forward. Thanks Greg! I called Advanced Adapters, and after first denying any knowledge of the 5-speed, they located a Mark's 4wd catalog and gave me minimal info. I ended up calling Mark's 4wd directly. They do not have a bell housing for the 2.25 liter engine, and according to the person I spoke with, they are not going to be producing one. They didn't know of anyone else who might procuce or sell such a beast (ie any 5-speed conversion to go with the original engine). I tried calling Roverworks (someone said thy had dome some LT77 conversions) and received no reply to my messages (they do mention in their outgoing message that you should be patient, but longer than a week?). I left a second message after 10 days, but am not holding my breath... Any other pointers to 5-speed conversions for a series vehicle, with 2.25 liter petrol engine? Preferrably one that doesn't require moving the engine forward (although cutting driveshafts is fine). Maybe I am just out of luck on this one... In any case, I am worknig towards repairing my current 4-speed gearbox (it had lost access to 3rd and 4th gears). My gearbox, xfer case, od, seatbase, etc... are all on my floor now. I noticed some oil in the bellhousing, which I think is coming from the engine, so I guess I'll be replacing the rear main seal on the engine (the current seal was from DAP and installed 5 years ago, FWIW). I guess I might as well fit a new clutch while I am in there. Fun, fun. -jory ------------------------------------ From: "Dale W. Avery" Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:40:09 +1100 Subject: Arced springs vs. new Here's the question...are rearced springs o.k.? Or should I swallow my tongue and buy four new springs? The Beast's present set are flat, flat, slightly flat,and flat. So I have an 88 that is tipping slightly to one side. Also none of the shocks seem to match! Guess will have to get new set of Rancho's . Other major problems to be fixed before licensing are 1) PO removed all of the Pollution control tubing, etc., off the carb. That was Montana, here in Spokane, I have to find and reinstall all of that *&%$# stuff. 2) Right front swivel ball seal ist kaput! Now I know what 90 wt stains on tire and floor look like. 3) Rear seal on transfer case is out. Has coated parking brake very well - no braking brake..4) Carb needs adjustment. doesn't like to idle and blows black smoke on starting...don't even need choke - VERY rich is my guess. 5) Pops out of 4 wheel low range on decelleration. Think I need to fix that before trying to go down any steep slope, :>). Otherwise, I'll get to smell hot brakes as I lean over and try to get it out of neutral and into any gear available. Thanks for any suggestions on the springs. Dale and the Beast ------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 12:03:08 -0700 From: cyoungso@Direct.CA (Chris Youngson) Subject: Re: August 95 LCLR Who-B-Who List 1965_109" 06/93 Chris Youngson West Vancouver, BC ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 18:19:11 -0700 From: jory@org.org (jory bell) Subject: 2.5 liter w/ 5speed? Cc: mendo_recce@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us Gerry, Vance Chin mentioned that he thought you had driven a 2.5 liter (series?) vehicle with a 5-speed. Is this the case? If yes, do you know if the 2.5 uses the same bellhousing as the 2.25. I am interested as part of my quest to shove a 5-speed in my ser iii 88. thanks, jory ------------------------------------ From: DatIO@aol.com Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:21:19 -0400 Subject: subscribe If this is a Land Rover mailing list, please add me! Thanks... ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 19:29:39 -0700 From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Subject: Re: Arced springs vs. new You wrote: > >Here's the question...are rearced springs o.k.? Or should I swallow >my tongue and buy four new springs? Personally I suspect that rearced are questionable, but have little hard knowledge to base that on. Doesn't rearcing have the potential to introduce stress related failure into the steel or am I clueless? > 3) Rear seal on >transfer case is out. Has coated parking brake very well - no >braking brake.. snip 5) Pops out of 4 wheel low range on decelleration. >Dale and the Beast > Ah, the parking brake.. this sounds familiar, this is where my restoration began. New brake pads, new seal....and so on to new valves :). Sounds like your speedo. housing is going to be disassembed, cleaned and reshimmed too :). Your front output case is worth a look, possibly also the lower half of the (i.e., the whole) transfer case. Could be the teeth are worn somewhere in that chain. The dog in the transfer case? or the end of the output shaft? or? Popping out of gear is a classic sign of such, eh? Cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: LGLarson@aol.com Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:34:47 -0400 Subject: August 95 LCLR Who-B-Who List Defender_90_94/07 Louis G LarsonCA, Riverside ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:32:48 -0700 From: jory@org.org (jory bell) Subject: Re: Arced springs vs. new >Here's the question...are rearced springs o.k.? Or should I swallow >my tongue and buy four new springs? The Beast's present set are >flat, flat, slightly flat,and flat. So I have an 88 that is tipping >slightly to one side. Also none of the shocks seem to match! >Guess will have to get new set of Rancho's . When my (DAP) springs went bad after about 1 year of use, I took them to be rearced. The spring shop suggested I just buy new ones, since the (DAP) springs were of "poor quality metal." They were pretty cool about it, since they could have gotten me to pay for rearcing, and as it was, they suggested I buy new springs from a LR parts dealer! Given the not huge (to my knowledge) price delta between new and potentially questionable rearced, I'd go with the former. -jory ------------------------------------ End of Digest