From: mendo_recce@off-road.com Subject: Digest for mendo_recce: 2/25/1997 Errors-To: owner-mendo_recce@off-road.com Reply-To: mendo_recce@off-road.com Precedence: bulk This is the digest for the mendo_recce mailling list ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------ From: Michael McKeag Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:52:19 -0800 Subject: [Fwd: Salmonberry Surveys] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2D0E16DC5669 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached is a reponse I received from Joyce Sherman. This is the cross-over activity I mentioned awhile back - salmon and rovers. Some of you in the Portland area who like to take your Rover out to the Coast Range to slither in the mud on weekends anyway could have your fun, indulge your interest in Rovers and salmon and contribute to a worthy cause all in one run. Contact Joyce directly if you wish, at jsherman@teleport.com. Mike -- Michael McKeag Webmaster - Native Plant Society of Oregon Portland, OR USA http://www.teleport.com/nonprofit/npso/ mmckeag@teleport.com LRO - 1995 D90SW #143, alpine white "Anything worth doing is worth overdoing." - Jonathan Bliss --------------2D0E16DC5669 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------ From: Joyce Sherman Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 09:03:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Salmonberry Surveys Dear Mike: Thanks very much for your response to Steve Hinton's River Notes announcement. We would *love, appreciate, be thrilled by* any assistance you might be able to offer in getting volunteers into the watershed. Most of the 4WD vehicles owned by volunteers are mini-pickups, which does not go very far toward transporting several surveyors! Although all roads within the Salmonberry watershed are rough, most "city" cars can reach Camp 9, the major crossroads, without a problem. From there it's a little over a mile down the Beaver Slide Road to reach the river. "Beaver Slide Road" is a very apt description: it's steep, muddy, and has tight corners. We can negotiate it with our aged 2WD pickup w/compound low in dry weather, but are not crazy enough to try it in wet weather. In addition to the Beaver Slide Road, the road summit is about 1,000 feet higher than the Sunset Hwy summit, which means that we may encounter snow during March. We are very safety conscious and do not attempt to continue past the summit if any vehicles in the group are having difficulty at that point. Volunteers and vehicles are never sent out alone, and we do not leave the watershed until everyone has checked in. We are scheduling surveys for every Saturday in March, April and May. If you would like to help, either by providing access or by surveying in addition to that, please let us know when you can join us. I'd love to have you on my survey crew, as you could teach me about native plants. I often take students (HS and college) on surveys and try to add some basic plant and insect ID to our surveys. If you decide to sign up for a survey, we need to have your snail-mail address and phone. Right now not many of the people on our list have e-mail access (or they don't admit to it), so I've not yet set up a good e-mail list. I do plan to do that as soon as I can collect some additional e-mail addresses. We contact each volunteer, ordinarily by phone, usually the Thursday prior to the Saturday he/she has volunteered for. We also need phone numbers in case it becomes necessary to cancel a survey. Joyce Sherman River Graphics, Portland, Oregon jsherman@teleport.com --------------2D0E16DC5669-- ------------------------------------ From: Benjamin Allan Smith (Pencom) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:27:25 -0800 Subject: Re: fast GPS mapping In message <199702242119.LAA26969@unix.off-road.com>you write: > Jim had his laptop with the Delorme software loaded and was always slower > just because he could not leave it on all the time (my 45 runs off the > vehicle battery). The Delorme software really is pretty nice. My intent is to run a laptop and GPS off of the vehicle battery at all times so that the software always has a waypoint on screen for me. Ben ------------------------------------ From: chrisbrowne@minet.com (Chris Browne) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 08:42:40 -0500 Subject: Re: 95 D90 for sale All I know this truck, Every time I called the owner he was outside waxing it. It really is in good condition. If I didn't have to buy my wife a Volvo, I'd probably grab it myself. cheers Chris Browne ------------------------------------ From: "Alan DuBoff" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 17:30:07 -0700 Subject: Re: fast GPS mapping On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:27:25 -0800, Benjamin Allan Smith (Pencom) wrote: > My intent is to run a laptop and GPS off of the vehicle battery at >all times so that the software always has a waypoint on screen for me. Look at HP laptops then. Stan Honey, whom set the record for the single handed and double handed sailing from SF->Hawaii (both times on his Cal 40, Illusion) writes software to interact with his GPS and wind equipment, uses HP laptops. When I talked to him about it, Stan had told me that HP made a laptop with a 486 in it that only draws .5 amp (not a typo, that is 1/2 amp). And they are small! I imagine that in a 'rover your gonna want to draw the least amount of power that you can, and take the least amount of space that you can. Stan set the single handed record by himself 2 years ago and this past year set the double handed record with his wife, Sally. Both times used software written by Stan. One of the large companies used to be owned by Stan, possibly ETAK. Alan DuBoff Software Orchestration, Inc. aland@ibm.net ------------------------------------ From: jouster@redm.primextech.com (John Ousterhout) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:56:23 -0800 Subject: Re: fast GPS mapping snip Most, if not all, portables have some sort of power saver mode that enables a vehicle battery to power them for many days and still start the vehicle. The HP probably has the record for least power while operating, but there are some other alternatives: turn off the screen or get a monochrome screen, keep the drives off, don't use the modem unless the engine is running ;), and only hook the computer up to the second battery. JohnO > >When I talked to him about it, Stan had told me that HP made a laptop >with a 486 in it that only draws .5 amp (not a typo, that is 1/2 amp). >And they are small! > >I imagine that in a 'rover your gonna want to draw the least amount of >power that you can, and take the least amount of space that you can. ------------------------------------ From: Mehdi.Saghafi.B@bayer.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 10:35:43 -0500 Subject: non rover how does a software key that plugs in the printer port work? thanks mehdi ------------------------------------ From: bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bob and Sue Bernard) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 08:32:35 -0800 Subject: Re: Replacement Wheel Bearings >Dear Walking Encyclopedias of Land-Rover Data, > What are the replacement brands and serial numbers of wheel hub >bearings(inner and outer)for a series IIA. There is a King Bearing store >about 5 minutes down the road. (Thought I'd try a local source, Steve) > >Thanks, Eric Hi Eric, I've found some of the bearings and seals at the local bearing stores. But, The cost was close or actually higher. Mainly though, I want to support the supplier of all the other Land-Rover stuff. So I order from BP inless they are out of stock. Regards, Bob B ------------------------------------ From: BSharp4601@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:02:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Series III Bulkhead Anyone have any suggestions on sourcing a bulkhead for my Series III project? The bulkhead in this vehicle is beyond repair. The PO welded the windscreen to the bulkhead and the combination of Canadian winters and Florida salt/surf has more than taken it's toll during it's life span. AB quoted around $1750 for a new one(?!), but that is a little pricey. I'm debating on the coil spring vs. leaf spring chassis issue myself. Thanks Bob Sharp Tucson, Az. 96 Discovery (anonymous) '72 Series III 88" (Solihull Valdez) ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 10:08:43 PST Subject: Re: De-Rusting > > > From: Nick C. Baggarly < > > . Anyone want to come by and > > give me a crash course on welding with an emphasis on safety. I don't > know > > what I'm doing which probably puts me in a high risk group for accidents. > > > Will there be room for spectators/other crash course students? > > Frank > A wire-feed MIG will work the best on thin stuff like the sheet metal of your floor... Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: "Tom Walsh" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:25:28 +0000 Subject: Re: GPS input please... > The time to down load the Delorme software for Mac, buy the > CD/software/whatever > at Frys, come up with some sort of Mac cable for the Trimble. If I like > it pick up a cheap portable. Figure out how to transport it in the D90. > If you want to check out my setup let me know.... I bet the MAC cable probably isn't a huge ordeal ( of course I'm more of PC weenie than a MAC one so go figure ) > Oh, have to keep working, mtn. biking, running, working out, social stuff. > Get the D90 down to SG for round two of the worlds most expensive lift. > Keep me posted on the trials of the lift kit thing. whats going on with it now? Also, I have started riding the priest rock trail at lexington resivoir ( its the beginning of the season but, that trail kinda kicks my butt! ) Let me know if you want to go riding ( others on the list also ) > Did I mention work. > Work, Smork! > Oh, I hope to sleep and eat at some point. > Sleeping and eating to a small degree is mandatory! > -Rick Tomw > > > > > I will. Just need to find the time. > > > > Uhm.... The time for what? > > I couldn't help replying! It looked like a partial messgae, I'm such a wise#ss! ---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* Fluent Networks "Intelligent Networking Solutions" tomw@best.com 95 LR Disco "The Light Brigade" http://www.fluentnet.com *---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* ------------------------------------ From: "Rick Larson" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:34:57 -0800 Subject: Re: GPS input please... > If you want to check out my setup let me know.... I bet the MAC cable > probably isn't a huge ordeal ( of course I'm more of PC weenie than a > MAC one so go figure ) Yeah, but I'm lazy. > > > Oh, have to keep working, mtn. biking, running, working out, social stuff. > > Get the D90 down to SG for round two of the worlds most expensive lift. > > > > Keep me posted on the trials of the lift kit thing. whats going on > with it now? > Well, the new front driveshaft fixes the front vibration problem. Looks like the back will be fixed with the new rear driveshaft if I can get the rear pinion tilted up to about 12 degrees or so (matching the front pinion angle) Still haven't got a chance to solve the speedometer problem yet. Actually works great off-road. Had a chance to play a bit at Hollister this weekend. Probably head down to SG in March for a day to get it cleaned up for use above 40 mph. > Also, I have started riding the priest rock trail at lexington > resivoir ( its the beginning of the season but, that trail kinda > kicks my butt! ) Let me know if you want to go riding ( others on the > list also ) Yeah, there is a section of that fire road that is truely evil. Called "Arnold", "It will pump you up." I did "Overgrown" to "Priest Rock" Sunday. Amazing what it does to my heart rate. (Got a heart rate monitor for my Birthday.) Will probably do Kennedy Rd, Sierra Azul, Priest Rock this afternoon. Sometime after 3:30. Had prefered "Overgrown" to "Priest Rock" lately just because it was more techincally challenging after all the rain. Unfortunately they just re-graded it. May alternate a little more now. We should get together for a "mendo" mtn. bike ride sometime. A real good one is Highland Way, Buzzard Lagoon, Demonstration Forest back down to Highland Way. (Up where you were playing in the LR's a couple weeks ago.) -Rick ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:07:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Hippo motors: 4 into 6 The conversion is not a killer and has been done before. Basically, the whole deal sits back further than on a 4-cyl. version. The flywheel housing needs to be changed, and the engines we supply can include that and the flywheel. The trannies are the same, and remain in the same place, but the engine fits further back in the frame. The stock engine mounts should be carefully cut off the chassis and slid back and re-welded. The upper and lower radiator hoses need to be longer (a scrounge job or insert a brass pipe), and a longer shroud needs to be fashioned so the fan will still work. Not a killer, and less work than fitting a Chevy 6. Steve ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:56:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Octane I may be wrong, but I got the impression that unleaded is a 'cheap' fuel in the UK rather than a 'less expensive'. Here in LA all those years ago, leaded premium was taxed higher (and we paid it anyway, grateful to still get it). I talked to a gasoline company research chemist once and she did confirm that unleaded regular is cheaper to make than leaded regular. I think we've been sold the farm for a long time, but to whom do you complain? Steve ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:12:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Faster than Hippo Yep, there's another drag racer out there, but he's cheating. One of our customers has a Series 3 coiler 88" with a 2.5, Weber 2 bbl, and 5-speed (pickup cab). He claims a cruise of 85 mph and a Vne of 95 mph plus, AND he's looking to fit 3:54's to up that top end. He's claiming 3800 RPM @ 85 MPH in 5th. He's also considering forced injection for more oomph. And you guys thought my claims were nuts... Steve ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:43:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Replacement Wheel Bearings Generally, we've found local bearing stores can get the right ones, but the prices haven't been a deal. If you order Timken (which is what we sell) I would be interested in how an over the counter price compares. We get Timken much cheaper out of the UK than we do around here, and we sell a LOT of bearings. Japanese bearings are often comprable to what we sell Timken for, in our experience. Please let me know how you did. Steve ------------------------------------ From: John_Benham@nps.gov (John Benham) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:23:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Series III Bulkhead Anyone have any suggestions on sourcing a bulkhead for my Series III project? The bulkhead in this vehicle is beyond repair. The PO welded the windscreen to the bulkhead and the combination of Canadian winters and Florida salt/surf has more than taken it's toll during it's life span. AB quoted around $1750 for a new one(?!), but that is a little pricey. I'm debating on the coil spring vs. leaf spring chassis issue myself. Thanks Bob Sharp Tucson, Az. 96 Discovery (anonymous) '72 Series III 88" (Solihull Valdez) Bob, There's a Rovernut in Scottsdale who has tons of used and new series parts. His name is Martin - first or last I don't recall. Contact Rover's West in Tucson or some Phoenix Rover people and they should know him and his phone number. If you find it, could you share his name and phone number with the group? Thanks. Good luck. John Benham 1989 R/R, 1968 SIIA Fort Collins ------------------------------------ From: Jimi Patel Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 13:23:19 -0800 Subject: Re: Digest for mendo_recce: 2/25/1997 >From: "Walter C. Swain" >Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:05:43 -0800 (PST) >Subject: Re: RR 85 Hiccups >On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Jimi Patel wrote: > Lately, i have been having problems with flat-spots caused by splutter. > The RR is 85 auto and has twin stomberg carbs. It started after i kept on > adding octane boost additive to the fuel. > So what's next: > Hmmm, i just replaced my brake master cylinder [BP] fixed steering pump > leak and put 2 new tyres. OK i give up !!! > Any hints would be most appreciated. Clearly, the flat spots are caused by the two tires you did not replace. Rgds, Walt. Nice one Walt! I knew i could count on you. Incidently, the two square tires were replaced sometime ago. I have a feeling that there may be some moisture problems, the fuel tank may have some water in it. I will probably try to do the fuel test again this weekend. Jimi .. ------------------------------------ From: "G. Mugele" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 13:27:51 -0800 Subject: Re: Octane Steve said: >I may be wrong, but I got the impression that unleaded is a 'cheap' fuel in >the UK rather than a 'less expensive'. Here in LA all those years ago, leaded >premium was taxed higher (and we paid it anyway, grateful to still get it). I >talked to a gasoline company research chemist once and she did confirm that >unleaded regular is cheaper to make than leaded regular. I think we've been >sold the farm for a long time, but to whom do you complain? I agree with this assessment. In the 60s Amoco (American Oil Company) was a fairly big service station chain east of the Mississippi and they sold unleaded 100 octane "High Test" at the same prices as Shell, Chevron and everybody else. This white gas was considered by many in SCCA club racing to be perfect for clean running in high revving engines. Only later did we learn the penalty: burnt exhaust valves. Anyway, I would imagine that the cracking process technology has improved substantially over the last 30+ years. So if they could produce 100 octance unleaded competitively back then why is it not possible now? Me thinks market manipulation is the big variable and it applies to diesel fuel too. Cheers, Gerry Mugele *** Indecision is the key to flexibility. ------------------------------------ From: "Nick C. Baggarly" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:48:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Range Rover Running Rough The '89 Range Rover is running rough and I don't know where to start. It feels as though it's missing on one cylinder. Tonight I'll pull the plugs and see if any one of them look different. Hopefully it's just a plug wire. This thing is probably ready for a tune up so here's what I'm going to do (and hope it cures the problem). Replace plug wires Replace cap/rotor Replace spark plugs Check vacuums hoses for leaks Beg Kevin Kelly to come by and have a look Any other suggestions?? I took it to the San Jose LR dealership and told the service guy it was running rough then asked if they offered free diagnosis estimates. He said Nope and told me he couldn't even look at it until mid- April. His recommendation was that I find something else to drive until then. Rrrrriiiiieeet TeriAnn, my Amsterdam trip has been rescheduled for next week and get this... I asked work if I could stop in London to buy some Rover parts and they scheduled me for a day training our European sales force in the London office. Never been to London before. How far away is the Rover factory? I'm thinking tour. If you haven't ordered those Ubolts...hold off. I'll pick them up. Nick ------------------------------------ From: Jeremy Bartlett Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:28:54 -0800 Subject: Rover Factory Location was Re: Range Rover Running Rough Nick C. Baggarly wrote: > snip > never been > to London before. How far away is the Rover factory? I'm thinking tour. > If you haven't ordered those Ubolts...hold off. I'll pick them up. > IF the trains are still running :( / :) it's about a 1/2 day train journey up to Birmingham area (NW towards Wales from London). Before you hit the industrial blight of Birmingham/Manchester and points between its rather a nice ride scenery wise. I'll bet you'll need to take the bus from a nearby station. I doubt theres one at hand near Solihull ... although the canal runs nearby :) cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: Blair.Peterson@TRITON-HUB.TRIU.sprint.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:20:00 -0500 Subject: 109 right side door I've got a rusty-framed but servicable right side door for a 109 sw that urgently needs to find a good home. Jaunty red over orig faded marine blue. Unglazed, no latch. All offers (sale, trade, gift!) considered. Free delivery in SF or Marin. "One only at this price..." Cheers, Blair ------------------------------------ From: John_Benham@nps.gov (John Benham) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:46:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Range Rover Running Rough The '89 Range Rover is running rough and I don't know where to start. It feels as though it's missing on one cylinder. Tonight I'll pull the plugs and see if any one of them look different. Hopefully it's just a plug wire. This thing is probably ready for a tune up so here's what I'm going to do (and hope it cures the problem). Replace plug wires Replace cap/rotor Replace spark plugs Check vacuums hoses for leaks Beg Kevin Kelly to come by and have a look Any other suggestions?? I took it to the San Jose LR dealership and told the service guy it was running rough then asked if they offered free diagnosis estimates. He said Nope and told me he couldn't even look at it until mid- April. His recommendation was that I find something else to drive until then. Rrrrriiiiieeet TeriAnn, my Amsterdam trip has been rescheduled for next week and get this... I asked work if I could stop in London to buy some Rover parts and they scheduled me for a day training our European sales force in the London office. Never been to London before. How far away is the Rover factory? I'm thinking tour. If you haven't ordered those Ubolts...hold off. I'll pick them up. Nick Nick, My 1989 R/R ran like hell once after I replaced plugs, rotor, cap, and spark plug wires. I also took the air filter and washed it in warm soapy water and rinsed it. After much frustration and missing a half-day of work, I traced it to the moisture still left on the air filter which upset the air flow meter/computer! So another thing to look for is a dirty or wet air filter! My latest problem is mice are chewing on my spark plug wires! I terminated four of them. Later, John Benham Somewhere in Colorado... ------------------------------------ From: "Brian Foster" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 15:23:09 PST Subject: So Cal LR newsletter Hiya all, Thought some of you might be aware that I've agreed to serve as the editor of the So Cal LR newsletter. The deadline for the next issue is March 1st. If any of you want to submit artciles, classifieds, etc. -- then e-mail does work great. The newsletter will be published every other month. Cheers, Brian Foster Resident So Cal LR fool! brian_foster@smtpgate.tais.com ------------------------------------ From: "Kerner, R." Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 16:27:00 PST Subject: 1987 RR for sale No I'm not selling one. My dad is looking at a 1987 RR with 75,000 miles on it. The body is in excellent shape, and the vehicle was gone through by SJ LR and has a clean bill of health(don't know how strong that recomendation is.). The person is asking $12500. According to the Kelly Blue Book, the wholesale value is something like $9850. What are some of the pitfalls he should look for. If you want to respond to him directly his email is " wwrj84a@prodigy.com" (Dave Kerner) This would be a good chance to get him into another British car, since he has been talking about getting a late model J**P Cher**ee(plus if he got the Range Rover, then he wouldn't buy the 68 Mark Something Jag he has been looking at). I think one Jaguar in the family is enough, you think Land-Rover parts are expensive! IE: Windscreen washer bottle for his 1969 XKE 2+2, $200, Rear view mirror $150. Rob Kerner@vegmail.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------ From: Uncle Roger Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:30:57 -0800 Subject: Re: sat at SF At 10:00 PM 2/24/97 -1000, you wrote: >how was the shoot on Saturday, Did enough rovers show up? Rachel, My dad, My niece, and I showed up a little before 10 at the Ferry Building in SF. Two cars back was Brad Blevins in the Sagecoach. Shortly thereafter, Michael Bellingham arrived in a beautiful green sIIA(?) 88". Others began arriving... Daniel Oppenheim in Kermit, Tom Walsh in the Light Brigade, a gentleman in a white disco whose name escapes me, Kohei and Kimura in Kohei's Range Rover, Gerry, Lilly, and Weasel in Peat. Frank Yap stopped by with his son(?) Brendan(?), although like me, he was roverless. All in all we had (per my faulty memory): D90SW 1 Disco 2 RR 1 88" 2 109" 1 After taking some pics on Embarcadero, we all convoyed to the palace of the legion of honor. After a few more pics, we convoyed over to Golden Gate Park Stables where my sister works. We took a group photo with Kermit and Cappie, one of the horses my sister trains. Then it was time for individual photos of the owners and their vehicles. Kimura took lots of pictures while Kohei took notes about the vehicles' owners. Alas, I didn't have my rover, but I'm told Kimura got a couple of nice pictures of my neice Cassie playing with one of my toy LR's. All in all, it was lots of fun. It was great to see all the stuff Tom Walsh has done to his disco. Cassie especially likes the cartop tent. If you weren't able to make it this time, they will be back at some point. I will hopefully have my vehicle up and running by then! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------------ From: Uncle Roger Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:31:01 -0800 Subject: Re: GPS input please... At 10:00 PM 2/24/97 -1000, you wrote: > Look at the Delorme Streetmap 4.0. Tom used this on the last Recce I've had it since v1.0, and its great. > So I picked up a copy at Fry's yesterday and it was $40 or so. I I think Price Club has it as well, bundled with their 3D US Explorer. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------------ From: Uncle Roger Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:31:04 -0800 Subject: RE: GPS input please... At 10:01 PM 2/24/97 -1000, you wrote: >Automap Streets [...] deluxe edition comes with a Yellow Pages CD (which >include the phone # and Address of British Pacific, BTW) so you can: >- Know exactly where you are broke down >- Call for a new part (and a pizza if you need to wait a while) >- and give directions to both the Pizza guy and the FedEx/UPS driver to Or, do as Tom Walsh and I have done and get a Ricochet modem so you can e-mail your order to BritPac, visit the Pizza Hut web site to order your 'za, and then track your UPS shipment on-line. You can also post minute-by-minute journals of your adventure to the mendo list as it happens. Hmmm... hook up a quickcam (Surely you've got one, Tom?) so as to be able to pipe live video to the net as well... (Tom, I thought I saw a spot right next to your GPS antenna where a quickcam would fit real nice...) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------------ From: Benjamin Allan Smith (Pencom) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:41:28 -0800 Subject: Re: Rover Factory Location was Re: Range Rover Running Rough In message <199702252341.NAA03020@unix.off-road.com>you write: > Nick C. Baggarly wrote: > > to London before. How far away is the Rover factory? I'm thinking tour. > > If you haven't ordered those Ubolts...hold off. I'll pick them up. > > IF the trains are still running :( / :) it's about a 1/2 day train journey > up to Birmingham area (NW towards Wales from London). Before you hit the > industrial blight of Birmingham/Manchester and points between its rather > a nice ride scenery wise. I'll bet you'll need to take the bus from a nearby > station. I doubt theres one at hand near Solihull ... although the canal run > nearby :) I took a train to a stop before Birminham and took a Taxi to Solihull. For the return trip I went out the main gate, turned left and walked about 2 or so miles to a different train station. The train ride from London was in the 1.5 to 3 hour range. Ben ------------------------------------ From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:42:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Range Rover Running Rough At 2:48 PM 2/25/97 -0800, Nick C. Baggarly wrote: >TeriAnn, my Amsterdam trip has been rescheduled for next week and get this... >I asked work if I could stop in London to buy some Rover parts and they >scheduled >me for a day training our European sales force in the London office. Never been >to London before. How far away is the Rover factory? I'm thinking tour. >If you haven't ordered those Ubolts...hold off. I'll pick them up. > >Nick Nick you lucked out. Today is my birthday and i stayed on the Santa Cruz side of the hill to take pictures. So I didn't FAX in an order for the bolts. When are you leaving? How long will you be in London? Brownchurch is in London. How long are you going to be there? You WANT to purchase your series III 109 rear drive shaft in the UK. It will save you all kinds of $$$. If you can put together a shopping list quick enough, maybe Richard Brownlee will be willing to go shopping for you. TeriAnn Wakeman "Large format photographers look Santa Cruz California at the world upside down and twakeman@scruznet.com backwards" ------------------------------------ From: James Howard Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:44:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Series III Bulkhead Does this mean you bought the thing? On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 BSharp4601@aol.com wrote: > Anyone have any suggestions on sourcing a bulkhead for my Series III project? > The bulkhead in this vehicle is beyond repair. The PO welded the windscreen > to the bulkhead and the combination of Canadian winters and Florida salt/surf > has more than taken it's toll during it's life span. AB quoted around $1750 > for a new one(?!), but that is a little pricey. I'm debating on the coil > spring vs. leaf spring chassis issue myself. > > Thanks > > Bob Sharp > Tucson, Az. > > 96 Discovery (anonymous) > '72 Series III 88" (Solihull Valdez) > ------------------------------------ From: Kevin Kelly Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:34:14 -0800 Subject: Land Rover Navigation Systems >While you probably don't want a Radar in >your Land Rover (unless you're Tom W :-) On page 89 of the Winter '97 issue of the Japanese "Land Rover Magazine" there is an ad for a great looking Range Rover and Discovery "Super View Navigation System". The system mounts to the roof of the vehicles and has a small color LCD map screen that flips down. I don't have any other information on it because all the text is in Japanese (it is funny that the magazine has many English titles). Kevin Kelly ------------------------------------ From: James Howard Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:41:47 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Land Rover Navigation Systems On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Kevin Kelly wrote: > On page 89 of the Winter '97 issue of the Japanese "Land Rover Magazine" > there is an ad for a great looking Range Rover and Discovery "Super View > Navigation System". The system mounts to the roof of the vehicles and > has a small color LCD map screen that flips down. I don't have any > other information on it because all the text is in Japanese (it is funny > that the magazine has many English titles). > The Japanese seem to love to put English words in the strangest places. Last time I was there, I couldn't help but laugh at some of the English names they chose for some models of car. Unfortunately, the names escape me now. Ahh, Japan, I miss it. James ------------------------------------ From: James Howard Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:52:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Faster than Hippo On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 BRITPAC@aol.com wrote: > Yep, there's another drag racer out there, but he's cheating. > > One of our customers has a Series 3 coiler 88" with a 2.5, Weber 2 bbl, and > 5-speed (pickup cab). He claims a cruise of 85 mph and a Vne of 95 mph plus, > AND he's looking to fit 3:54's to up that top end. He's claiming 3800 RPM @ > 85 MPH in 5th. He's also considering forced injection for more oomph. > How much torque does it have at 500 rpm? ------------------------------------ From: "G. Mugele" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 20:21:34 -0800 Subject: Doing a Fan-ectomy on a D90 Jeremy, I looked at the D90 fan and instantly understood your consternation. Doesn't look like they had field repairs in mind when they designed that. So I asked my favorite Irish LR fixers. Robert just smiled and then laughed. After so banter about how it can't be don he mentioned the famous 'special tool' made of unobtainium. The tool is actually available but he said he wouldn't spend the money. The nut to loosen is the largish one on the back side, inside the fan itself and nicely protected from regular tools. Robert has used a chisel/drift carefully remembering that it is left hand thread. He sez just don't use too big a hammer. :-) Cheers, Gerry Mugele *** Indecision is the key to flexibility. ------------------------------------ From: Benjamin Allan Smith (Pencom) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:39:45 -0800 Subject: Re: Rover Factory Location was Re: Range Rover Running Rough In message <199702260442.SAA14168@unix.off-road.com>you write: > And make a reservation as soon as you know when you'll be in the area. > Odd schedule, like Tuesdays and Thursdays only. Don't expect to drop in > and just hitch yourself to the next group heading out onto the factory > floor. I think Ben has some recent experience. I got lucky and was able to walk in. This is very rare. They told me if there were less than 25 people in the room I was ok. And I was. Later more people with reservations showed up, so I was really lucky. Ben ------------------------------------ From: "Walter C. Swain" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:34:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Rover Factory Location was Re: Range Rover Running Rough On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Jeremy Bartlett wrote: > Nick C. Baggarly wrote: > > snip > > never been > > to London before. How far away is the Rover factory? I'm thinking tour. > > If you haven't ordered those Ubolts...hold off. I'll pick them up. > > IF the trains are still running :( / :) it's about a 1/2 day train journey > up to Birmingham area (NW towards Wales from London). Before you hit the > industrial blight of Birmingham/Manchester and points between its rather > a nice ride scenery wise. I'll bet you'll need to take the bus from a nearby > station. I doubt theres one at hand near Solihull ... although the canal runs > nearby :) And make a reservation as soon as you know when you'll be in the area. Odd schedule, like Tuesdays and Thursdays only. Don't expect to drop in and just hitch yourself to the next group heading out onto the factory floor. I think Ben has some recent experience. Rgds, Walt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Walter C. Swain | wcswain@dcn.davis.ca.us * * Davis Community Network | 1969 LR Dormobile- "Bertha" * * Davis, California | 1988 Range Rover- "Lady Jane" * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------------ From: eric johnson Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:58:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Replacement Wheel Bearings Bob and Sue Bernard wrote: > > >Dear Walking Encyclopedias of Land-Rover Data, > > What are the replacement brands and serial numbers of wheel hub > >bearings(inner and outer)for a series IIA. There is a King Bearing store > >about 5 minutes down the road. (Thought I'd try a local source, Steve) > > > >Thanks, Eric > > Hi Eric, > I've found some of the bearings and seals at the local bearing stores. > But, The cost was close or actually higher. > Mainly though, I want to support the supplier of all the other Land-Rover > stuff. So I order from BP inless they are out of stock. > > Regards, > Bob B Hi Bob, I called around today and tried to have the serial numbers matched up but the countermen said they never heard of Skefko or the numbers. They suggested I bring them in or have exact measurements. I may end up taking your suggestion, if I can't get a proper match/price soon. Thanks,Eric ------------------------------------ From: ed hall Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:04:15 -0800 Subject: Re: non rover Mehdi.Saghafi.B@bayer.com wrote: > > how does a software key that plugs in the printer port work? > > thanks > mehdi Most of them have a chip that the software access for special information. The data send to your printer just passes through, the chip only does anything when it is addressed and a specifice code is sent to it. ------------------------------------ From: "Alan DuBoff" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 08:00:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Land Rover Navigation Systems On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:41:47 -0700 (MST), James Howard wrote: >The Japanese seem to love to put English words in the strangest places. >Last time I was there, I couldn't help but laugh at some of the English >names they chose for some models of car. Unfortunately, the names >escape me now. My absolute favorite one is for the Mitsubishi(t) Montero, which is called the Pajero in Japan. Pajero means basically jackoff in spanish... I owned a Honda Acty when I lived in Japan, but they had a great Honda they didn't bring in the U.S. called the City which has a convertible model that looked like a mini Volkswagen Rabbit. They have some nice cars in Japan, the Soarer, one of the top of the line Toyotas, the ED (looks like a MB 450SL) which had a high performance double overhead cam setup, Nissan President, etc... I drove a friend's Toyota Land Cruiser before I bought my Acty and it was too big for Japan, hard to get down some of the small side streets... Alan DuBoff Software Orchestration, Inc. aland@ibm.net ------------------------------------ From: "Alan DuBoff" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 08:02:46 -0700 Subject: non 'rover content If your bored, here is a cute URL. http://www.islandparadise.com/fun/ Alan DuBoff Software Orchestration, Inc. aland@ibm.net ------------------------------------ From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:14:27 -0800 Subject: Re: Faster than Hippo At 8:52 PM 2/25/97 -0700, James Howard wrote: >On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 BRITPAC@aol.com wrote: > >> Yep, there's another drag racer out there, but he's cheating. >> >> One of our customers has a Series 3 coiler 88" with a 2.5, Weber 2 bbl, and >> 5-speed (pickup cab). He claims a cruise of 85 mph and a Vne of 95 mph plus, >> AND he's looking to fit 3:54's to up that top end. He's claiming 3800 RPM @ >> 85 MPH in 5th. He's also considering forced injection for more oomph. >> > >How much torque does it have at 500 rpm? No problemo. You just do what the ex-person did who won the darwan award, ...strap a JATO unit to the car TeriAnn Wakeman "Large format photographers look Santa Cruz California at the world upside down and twakeman@scruznet.com backwards" ------------------------------------ From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:17:51 -0800 Subject: Re: Doing a Fan-ectomy on a D90 At 8:21 PM 2/25/97 -0800, G. Mugele wrote: >Jeremy, > >I looked at the D90 fan and instantly understood your consternation. >Doesn't look like they had field repairs in mind when they designed that. > So I asked my favorite Irish LR fixers. Robert just smiled and then >laughed. After so banter about how it can't be don he mentioned the >famous 'special tool' made of unobtainium. The tool is actually >available but he said he wouldn't spend the money. The nut to loosen is >the largish one on the back side, inside the fan itself and nicely >protected from regular tools. Robert has used a chisel/drift carefully >remembering that it is left hand thread. He sez just don't use too big a >hammer. :-) SO toss the stock fan and install and electric fan. You can turn it off while wading. Your mechanical fan becomes the elelectic systom's worst enimy then. Gees who keeps moving the keys? TeriAnn Wakeman "Large format photographers look Santa Cruz California at the world upside down and twakeman@scruznet.com backwards" ------------------------------------ From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:09:39 -0800 Subject: whoope Trout Gulch Vineyards 1993 Santa Crruze Mountains Chardonney is good shit! On the other hand, chockolet and Chardonnay do not go together. Hmmm who moved the keys on the keyboard. So anyway Today is my birthday and I spent the day photographing waterfalls on Fall Creek in Felton I think I got a couple of reallllly nice images. I actually spent a day not working on the Green Rover. Amazing. Hay you know life is what is happening when you think you are putting it off to a more convient time as you slave at work and home projects. Bummer. I was doing some photography in Monument vally the other year when an indian guide jeep stopped by. The guide got put, put a step next to the passanger side. He helped an elderly couple out of the jeep. They couldn't walk well. They stood there and looked at the cliffs for a minute or so then got back into the jeep. Bad time to decide to live life. Maybe I should decide that I do not owe Apple 60+ hours a week. My grand parents had a mother in law cottage in the back yard. They rented it out to an elderly lady named Mrs Shoule who died a couple of years later. She left no relatives. I helped my grand parents clean up the cottage. They threw out her pictures. It was one of the sadest things I can remeber. They were visual parts of her past. Memorys that lived after her that just got tossed without the slightest thought. You know, I think my greatest fear is that after I'm gone, someone would just come along and toss out my transparencies and negitives. They are a part of me as is the Green Rover and the Once and Future TR3. It would be so sad to have my images just tossed without a thought and my cars lose their connection to me. I took some towels and a tea service that belonged to Mrs Shoule to remember her by. She is not completely gone as long as someone remembers her. I spent a couple of hours today visiting a local profesional nature/wild animal photographer, Kennon Ward. He was saying that his art was comprimised by having to sell photographs. He has some very different photographs on the walls of his home. He said that when he dies, a whole new type of photograph will be discovered in his home and people will probably be trying to see how they fit into the images he is known for. Well at least his images won't be thrown out. Did I mention the obligatory LR stuff? I got my pick axe head & my shovel mounted yesterday. I decided to take a four day weekend in honour of my birthday. I'm having the front section of headliner redone in light gray. The upholstry shoppe also as one of my front seats and both door arm rests for recovering. I went with the closest match I could find to rhino hyde. It is not silver enough and the grain is not as deep. Oh well. I was really tired of all the comments I was getting on my fine duct tape upholstry.. With any sort of luck I will have both seats done by the weekend. I got the right rear toolbox upholsterd and the single side facing jump seat mounted oposit the stove this last weekend as well. You all take care and live life to the fullest ya hear TeriAnn Wakeman "Large format photographers look Santa Cruz California at the world upside down and twakeman@scruznet.com backwards" ------------------------------------ From: Uncle Roger Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:15:23 -0800 Subject: Re: sat at SF At 10:00 PM 2/24/97 -1000, you wrote: >D90SW 1 >Disco 2 >RR 1 >88" 2 >109" 1 Whups, I forgot Kevin Kelly in his blue RR classic, so that's 2 RR's, for a total of 8 vehicles. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------------ From: "tomw@fluentnet.com" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:43:45 +0000 Subject: RE: GPS input please... > > Or, do as Tom Walsh and I have done and get a Ricochet modem so you can > e-mail your order to BritPac, visit the Pizza Hut web site to order your > 'za, and then track your UPS shipment on-line. You can also post > minute-by-minute journals of your adventure to the mendo list as it happens. > Hmmm... hook up a quickcam (Surely you've got one, Tom?) so as to be able to > pipe live video to the net as well... Gadzooks! Sad to say I have four I think! 3 mono, one color! I was planning on putting the color one in front of the rear view mirror ( really! ) for that live Disco cam..... I was planning on streaming to disk, editing and then posting it to the web :) Tomw..... What next! > > (Tom, I thought I saw a spot right next to your GPS antenna where a quickcam > would fit real nice...) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- > > Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad > sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." > Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates > San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ > > > ---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* Fluent Networks "Intelligent Networking Solutions" tomw@best.com 95 LR Disco "The Light Brigade" http://www.fluentnet.com *---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* ------------------------------------ From: "Nick C. Baggarly" Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:22:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: welding, RR still missing, london parts places >> From: Nick C. Baggarly < >> Anyone want to come by and give me a crash course on welding with an >> emphasis on safety. I don't know what I'm doing which probably puts me >> in a high risk group for accidents. > Will there be room for spectators/other crash course students? > Frank Sure if I can find someone to teach the course :) Still looking... but I'll let you know. I pulled the plugs out of the '89 RR this evening. #2 was all sludged up and looks as though it hasn't been firing at all throughout the last 20 miles (I've driven ~20 miles since it started running poorly). Tried to do a compression test but the tester has a leak so I replace the plugs with new Champion RN12YC and runs better but still rough. I'm pretty sure #2 isn't firing. Next I'll try replacing the plug wires. The dealer wants... get this... $79 for a set and to make matters worse, they want $38 for a cap and $38 for a rotor! My series IIA cap cost $6.95, rotors, $2.95. Guess I know what to put on the parts order when I'm in London. Say, I'll only have a couple hours in London to pick stuff up so I'm going to call/fax ahead my order. Can someone recommend a local place that can have my order waiting? Nick ------------------------------------ From: "tomw@fluentnet.com" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:53:30 +0000 Subject: Re: sat at SF > At 10:00 PM 2/24/97 -1000, you wrote: > >how was the shoot on Saturday, Did enough rovers show up? > > Rachel, My dad, My niece, and I showed up a little before 10 at the Ferry > Building in SF. Two cars back was Brad Blevins in the Sagecoach. Shortly > thereafter, Michael Bellingham arrived in a beautiful green sIIA(?) 88". > > Others began arriving... Daniel Oppenheim in Kermit, Tom Walsh in the Light > Brigade, a gentleman in a white disco whose name escapes me, Armando, He went on the mud run with Ben ( he had some photos of each wallowing in the mud :) Keven Kelly was there for while also > Kohei and > Kimura in Kohei's Range Rover, Gerry, Lilly, and Weasel in Peat. Frank Yap > stopped by with his son(?) Brendan(?), although like me, he was roverless. > All in all we had (per my faulty memory): > > D90SW 1 > Disco 2 > RR 1 > 88" 2 > 109" 1 > > After taking some pics on Embarcadero, we all convoyed to the palace of the > legion of honor. After a few more pics, we convoyed over to Golden Gate > Park Stables where my sister works. We took a group photo with Kermit and > Cappie, one of the horses my sister trains. Then it was time for individual > photos of the owners and their vehicles. Kimura took lots of pictures while > Kohei took notes about the vehicles' owners. > > Alas, I didn't have my rover, but I'm told Kimura got a couple of nice > pictures of my neice Cassie playing with one of my toy LR's. All in all, it > was lots of fun. It was great to see all the stuff Tom Walsh has done to > his disco. Cassie especially likes the cartop tent. > > If you weren't able to make it this time, they will be back at some point. > I will hopefully have my vehicle up and running by then! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- > > Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad > sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." > Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates > San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ > > > ---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* Fluent Networks "Intelligent Networking Solutions" tomw@best.com 95 LR Disco "The Light Brigade" http://www.fluentnet.com *---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* ------------------------------------ From: "tomw@fluentnet.com" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:10:07 +0000 Subject: Re: Land Rover Navigation Systems > Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:41:47 -0700 (MST) > From: James Howard > Subject: Re: Land Rover Navigation Systems > To: mendo_recce@off-road.com ------------------------------------ > On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Kevin Kelly wrote: > > On page 89 of the Winter '97 issue of the Japanese "Land Rover Magazine" > > there is an ad for a great looking Range Rover and Discovery "Super View > > Navigation System". The system mounts to the roof of the vehicles and > > has a small color LCD map screen that flips down. I don't have any > > other information on it because all the text is in Japanese (it is funny > > that the magazine has many English titles). > > > > The Japanese seem to love to put English words in the strangest places. > Last time I was there, I couldn't help but laugh at some of the English > names they chose for some models of car. Unfortunately, the names > escape me now. > > Ahh, Japan, I miss it. > > James > One thing that wasn't strange in the text of the add was 3300 yen for one display and 4000 something yen for the other if I remember correctly That is how I'd ultimately like to mount my setup though... I don't know the current exchange rate, but All I need to complete it like the Mag is a dedicated active matrix screen which I can get for 600-1000 ( with driver card ). Tomw ---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* Fluent Networks "Intelligent Networking Solutions" tomw@best.com 95 LR Disco "The Light Brigade" http://www.fluentnet.com *---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* ------------------------------------ From: "tomw@fluentnet.com" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:24:01 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) A story about computers.... no rover content ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > > Last year a friend of mine upgraded GirlFriend 1.0 to Wife 1.0 and found > that it's a memory hog leaving very little system resources for other > applications. He is only now noticing that Wife 1.0 also is spawning > Child-Processes which are further consuming valuable resources. No > mention of this particular phenomena was included in the product > brochure or the documentation, though other users have informed him > that this is to be expected due to the nature of the application. Not only > that, Wife 1.0 installs itself such that it is always launched at system > initialization where it can monitor all other system activity. He's finding > that some applications such as PokerNight 10.3, BeerBash 2.5, and > PubNight 7.0 are no longer able to run in the system at all, crashing the > system when selected (even though they always worked fine before). > > At installation, Wife 1.0 provides no option as to the installation of > undesired Plug-Ins such as MotherInLaw 55.8 and BrotherInLaw Beta > release. > Also, system performance seems to diminish with each passing day. > > The features he'd like to see in the upcoming Wife 2.0 include: > > - A"Don't remind me again" button > - Minimize button > - An install shield feature that allows Wife 2.0 to be > installed with the option to uninstall at anytime > without the loss of cache and other system resources. > - An option to run the network driver in promiscuous > mode which would allow the systems hardware > probe feature to be much more useful. > > I myself decided to avoid all of the headaches associated with Wife 1.0 > by sticking with Girlfriend 2.0. Even here, however, I found many > problems. > Apparently you cannot install Girlfriend 2.0 on top of Girlfriend 1.0. > You must uninstall Girlfriend 1.0 first. Other users say this is a long > standing bug which I should have been aware of. Apparently the > versions of > Girlfriend have conflicts over shared use of the I/O port. You think they > would have fixed such a stupid bug by now. To make matters worse, > The uninstall program for Girlfriend 1.0 doesn't work very well leaving > undesirable traces of the application in the system. > > Another thing that sucks -- all versions of Girlfriend continually pop-up > little annoying messages about the advantages of upgrading to Wife 1.0 > > BUG WARNING > > Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug. If you try to install Mistress 1.1 > before uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before > doing the uninstall itself. Then Mistress 1.1 will refuse to install, > claiming insufficient resources. > > BUG WORK-AROUNDS > To avoid the above bug, try installing Mistress 1.1 on a different system > and never run any file transfer applications such as LapLink 6.0. Also, > beware of similar shareware applications that have been known to carry > viruses that may affect Wife 1.0. > > Another solution would be to run Mistress 1.0 via a UseNet provider > under an anonymous name. Here again, beware of the viruses which > can accidentally be downloaded from the UseNet. > ---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* Fluent Networks "Intelligent Networking Solutions" tomw@best.com 95 LR Disco "The Light Brigade" http://www.fluentnet.com *---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* <<1350>>;55;time_stamp <<1380>>;55;time_stamp <<1410>>;55;time_stamp End of Digest