From: mendo_recce@off-road.com Subject: Digest for mendo_recce: 2/20/1997 Errors-To: owner-mendo_recce@off-road.com Reply-To: mendo_recce@off-road.com Precedence: bulk This is the digest for the mendo_recce mailling list ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:44:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Disney? If coming into the LA area for the weekend, check with us. Often one of us is working overtime hours, and if not officially open, we'll let Mendo people in the door. Marty was here Saturday AND Sunday last weekend. Steve ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:41:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Paint.. You need one of our catalogs! (It's IN there!) Bronze Green (DuPont) 38500 (PPG) 46451 Limestone (DuPont) 38505 (PPG) 46251 ...and for anyone else interested: Light Green (Pastel) (DuPont) 38504 (PPG) 46250 Marine Blue (DuPont) 38503 (PPG) 16514 Steve/BRITPAC ------------------------------------ From: "Alan DuBoff" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 20:03:27 -0700 Subject: Re: Diesel Conversion On Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:54:33 -0500 (EST), BRITPAC@aol.com wrote: >While it may be true that GM, Ford, Cummins, VW, MB, and Peugeot diesels are >not as costly to rebuild (I know Peugeot's are not cheap), even when using >OEM parts, Rover diesels are expensive. Perhaps it's because it's a superior >product... If a person was to put a MB diesel in a 'rover, all they would need would be the adapter for it to connect to the tranny, right ? Alan DuBoff Software Orchestration, Inc. aland@ibm.net ------------------------------------ From: Jim Holmes Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 09:07:56 -0000 Subject: D90 Antennae Replacement A few too many close calls with the brush have taken their toll on my D90's antennae and it snapped off after a recent trip. Does anybody have experience with replacing the antennae (how its connected, routing of cable to radio, etc.) Thanks for you help, Jim 1995 D90 ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:54:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Diesel Conversion Gerry, I believe the costs have to be considered on a model by model basis. Rover diesels have expensive parts when compared to their petrol equivalent. Diesel cranks are forged rather than cast. Pistons are twice as much. The injector pump is a very expensive unit to rebuild, and injectors themselves are pricey, where the fuel system costs more than buying a new carburetor and ignition system for a petrol. The other factor is that most of the surviving Rover diesels are pretty worn out and need extensive rebuilding. Most have been run hard and put away wet, if you know what I mean. It would be difficult to find a used engine that wasn't thoroughly thrashed. While it may be true that GM, Ford, Cummins, VW, MB, and Peugeot diesels are not as costly to rebuild (I know Peugeot's are not cheap), even when using OEM parts, Rover diesels are expensive. Perhaps it's because it's a superior product... Steve ------------------------------------ From: Jim Edwards Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:57:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: GPS There is mac software available for GPS units that uses delorme's street atlas. It is shareware, called GPSy or something similar, and is downloadable from a web page whose address I do not have handy since my Mac just died. Wait, I've found it - try http://pantheon.yale.edu/~nakamura/gps/gpsy.html good luck ------------------------------------ From: growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:53:13 -0800 Subject: Re: Clutch > > Tool 600800 which is basicall a socket with extend "teeth" capable of > gripping the conical castleated nut on the output shaft. > > Jeremy Or, (I'm reluctant to add) you can use a brass drift, and get the same result. ~bg ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:42:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Range Rover Compression I'm sure everyone knows this, but octane levels are different in gas sold at higher altitudes, and during winter/summer. Gas bought in the high mesas of New Mexico during winter is pretty low octane if memory serves. Additives are also changed (to aid in freezing protection?). It's also the cheapest of anywhere I've found. Any connection? Steve ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:23:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Speedo corrections/tire sizes There is a formula for calculating speedo drive gearing, which requires that you put a pointer on the cable, mark the tire, put it in 4th (standard, not low or o/d), then push the vehicle forward 1 tire revolution, then count the revolutions on the pointer. That ratio gets plugged into a formula (which I don't have with me!). There are other methods: MPH = rpm x tire diameter / gear ratio x 336 Dale, since you have an electronic tach, and you can measure the tire diameter, your gear ratio is the stock 4:70:1, times the constant (which is pi x 60 min/hr), you can calculate your exact MPH based on your tach. Make the calculations for 2,000 and 3,000 rpm, and see what your speedo reads (4th gear, no low or o/d). If it's way off, the speedo can be recalibrated using the first technique. Calculate the ratio and the speedo can be regeared for your tire/gear combo. Just provide the ratio with the speedo and the shop can calibrate it on their end. Steve ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:34:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Double lipped hub seals/pinion seals The double lipped hub seal is what we've been selling under the Rover (AM) part number for the last few years (AMRTC3510). We do have some genuine single lipped seals in stock but we only sell them when out of the others (LRRTC3510). This is an excellent example of the aftermarket part being vastly superior to genuine. The double lipped pinion seal is off the D90, and works great on Series Rover axles. We stock this in OEM and it's very affordable. Steve/BRITPAC ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:27:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine I recommend Lucas assembly lube. This is a 70wt oil mixed with their stabilizer, and it will not run off during prolonged storage. Available at most larger parts stores or speed shops. Steve ps: Looking forward to all comers! Of course, if it takes a few years, Hippo may need a freshening up to stay competetive. ------------------------------------ From: Jeremy Bartlett Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:04:21 -0800 Subject: Re: Clutch William L. Grouell wrote: > > > > > Tool 600800 which is basicall a socket with extend "teeth" capable of > > gripping the conical castleated nut on the output shaft. > > > > Jeremy > > Or, (I'm reluctant to add) you can use a brass drift, and get the same > result. > > ~bg This is certainly the approach I'd take if I had no tool. However, I wonder at whether it will get close (accurate?) to the appropriate torque. Having said that it must also be acknowledged that use of the correct tool to the correct torque is technically impossible because of the locking tab fit to the nut (as I recall). Torquing to full spec (100 ftlbs as spec'd by Fairey/Superwinch) places the pieces in such a relationship that the assembly can't be locked. I'm going by memory here but I believe that backing off the nut and retorquing with the appropriate tool or equivalent to the point where locking is possible produced a reading of 80-90 ft/lbs or thereabouts. cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: Jeremy Bartlett Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:16:14 -0800 Subject: Re: Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine BRITPAC@aol.com wrote: > > I recommend Lucas assembly lube. This is a 70wt oil mixed with their > stabilizer, and it will not run off during prolonged storage. Available at > most larger parts stores or speed shops.snip Thanks to one and all for the suggestions to date. One follow up question: I'm assuming there's no partial disassembly cleaning required after use of these products. Is this true? Will such oils/stabilizers merely wash away after start up with regular oil? Or do I need to take it appart again and flush the stuff out/off? > ps: Looking forward to all comers! Of course, if it takes a few years, Hippo > may need a freshening up to stay competetive. Hmm... time to look at fitting that 2bbl Weber/Pierce,2.5 cam,10.5:1,header equipped gas flow/ported,balanced, diesel cranked, overbored 2.25 into my topless 80" with a SIII tranny. :) cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: "G. Mugele" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 11:01:38 -0800 Subject: Re: Come uppance TeriAnn said: >The series III guage may need a voltage stabilizer (earlier ones do not). Gooey has one so I assume all Series III use 'em Cheers, Gerry Mugele *** Expecting life to treat you fairly because you are a good person is like expecting a bull not to charge you because you are a vegetarian. ------------------------------------ From: Russ Burns Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:41:38 -0800 Subject: Re: Range Rover Headlight Washers There is a check valve built into the tee in the plumbing under the bumper. It is probably the problem. Russ At 08:49 AM 2/19/97 -0800, Kevin Kelly wrote: >Does anyone have any idea how to stop my headlight washers from >"dribbling". About one ounce of washer fluid has been leaking out of >both washer nozzles for the past few days. Yesterday I ran the washers >for about 30 seconds to try and "clear them out" and now only one of the >squirters is leaking but it is leaking faster. I put an automotive >in-line fuel filter just below the washer fluid tank about two years >ago, so I don't think the nozzles are clogged. > >Kevin Kelly > > > > ------------------------------------ From: growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:12:15 -0800 Subject: Re: alternator wiring > > I have this wonderful new Delco alternator and am wondering how to wire > it. The lucas had two wires going to the starter solenoid from the > alternator. Why? How are they different, since they go to the same > place. The new alternator says to wire it directly to the battery? What > would this do to the solenoid? This will only be temporary until I save > enough money to go with a dual battery setup and then the alternator will > go to a relay/isolator first. > > > -Rob > kerner@vegmail.ucdavis.edu > > Your alternator requires "feedback" to let it know what the voltage in the system is so that it can produce more or less depending on demand. Delco alternators have the regulator built in, but a "sense" wire is to be connected to the +12 volts far away from the alternator output so the regulator knows the voltage in the system and tries to keep it at 13.5 volts. Many people will tell you to "just hook the sense wire to the alternator output". Yes it ~works, but since there is a voltge drop along the heavy wire that takes the current from the alt. to the main distrbution point (usually the fuse box), the voltage in the system will be low, especially when the current demand is great. Like a cold rainy night, when you've got everything turned on. The Delco has place for a "plug" that has two wires coming out of it. One wire is the "idiot" light on the dash the other is "sense" that tells the regulator (built into the alternator) what the battery voltage is. You can buy (at the auto parts store) a connector that fits onto the two spade lugs. It will be white with two wires hanging out. The parts man should be able to tell you which is which, if it's not indicated on the package. The "output" is the heavy wire (~10 AWG) that charges the battery and supplies the "juice" to the system. It needs to have a "large conductor" path directly to the battery. Since the starter solenoid has a large cable connection directly to the battery, that would be one of several logical places to connect it. Regards, Bill G. ps: Did we ever find those rare, double headed, left-handed, M6 X 2-1/2" wing bolts, to hold that high compression water pump? ------------------------------------ From: Michael Carradine Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:51:15 -0800 Subject: Albatross 8PM Tonight!! * * * * * * * * * * Calling all Land Rovers! * * * * * * * * * * Come meet the President/Editor of "Land Rover Magazine" of Japan. This highbrow 'collectors' quarterly magazine has a circulation of around 10,000 and sells for ~$18 per single issue. Copies of the magazine will be available for review and pro bono distribution. The President/Editor hopes to meet, interview, and photograph Land Rover owners and their vehicles for a 4 page photo news article. Depending on turnout, the article can be expanded or material can be published in future editions. The President/Editor speaks some English, and will have the assistance of Kohei Saito (415-331-6162), a 20 year US resident, as interpreter. * * * * * * * * Albatross, Thursday 8PM, Feb 20!! * * * * * * * * Directions.... The Albatross is a pub on the west side of San Pablo Avenue two blocks north from University Avenue in Berkeley. To get there from 580, take the Berkeley / University Avenue exit, go east 6-8 blocks, then north two blocks. ...although, there is no direct left turn onto San Pablo. * * * * Saturday 10AM, Feb 22 at the San Fran. Ferry Building * * * * Directions.... The Ferry Building is in San Francisco at the foot of Market Street. It sits right on the Bay and has a huge clock tower. There is a promenade out front along the waterfront. If you come up 101 or 280 heading to the Bay Bridge, or across the Bay Bridge from the East Bay, get off the freeway near the bridge and head north along the waterfront about 1/4 mile. Although pictures will be taken Thursday evening, Saturday will be better for high quality daylight photographs. He is particularly interested in late model and limited edition vehicles such as D-110 and D-90's in soft top, hard top, and if possible the new automatic versions. A group photo would also be nice. Of course the Land Rover scene in America may be different from his perception, so we might as well inundate him with Disco's, Range Rovers, Series vehicles and even Dormobiles, etc. For the Saturday daylight shots participating Rovers might want to pick some other locations or caravan to different parts with the intention of offering various "San Francisco" or "US" backdrops such as the urban city, Diamond Peak, the Park, or perhaps the Golden Gate National Seashore and Forts just north of the Golden Gate Bridge. This might give some of you an opportunity to pose your vehicle in a semi-offroad situation. Besides 'clean machines' he expressed an interest in muddied trucks :) Kind regards, -Michael Carradine VP, LROA Tel/Fax 510-988-0900 ------------------------------------ From: Benjamin Allan Smith (Pencom) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:55:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Albatross 8PM Tonight!! In message <199702201920.JAA14846@unix.off-road.com>you write: > * * * * * * * * * * Calling all Land Rovers! * * * * * * * * * * > Come meet the President/Editor of "Land Rover Magazine" of Japan. Oh, as a second reason, I figure that the mendo list is 2 years old today. On 17 Feb 1995 Granville Poole send out an email to the LRO list asking if people wanted to join him on a Second Recce of the Mendocino National Forest that took place on 5-6 March 1995. At first it was just a cc: list, but quickly I made a real email list to facilitate planning. I don't have the exact emails anymore, but near as I can figure it, the list was created on 20 Feb 1995. So as of now there are 149 people on the list (69 Real time, 63 Digest, 16 minit digest and 1 in Burst mode). At least 77 people have dropped off the list over the last 2 years. We have: California: 93 General: 2 Bay Area: 73 (including Sacramento and Angles Camp) S. Cal: 15 N. Cal: 3 Arizona: 10 Washington: 7 Oregon: 6 Colorado: 4 BC, Canada: 3 Mass.: 2 One each from New Mexico, Arkansas, Nevada, Alaska, the Phillipines, Idaho, and the UK. Additionally, 2 are from somewhere on the west coase, one from the East Coast and 12 are unknown location. The Land Rovers represented are: Series I 80" 5 88" 1 107" SW 1 Series II 88" 8 109" 5 (incl TerriAnn's Dormobile conversion) Series IIA 88" 21 109" 22 (incl 5 Dormobiles) Series III 88" 17 109" 1 Stage I 1 Defender: 110: 2 90: 15 90SW: 6 90auto:2 Range Rover Classic: 22 mk II: none Discovery: 29 Other: 5 (incl some like just 88" or just SIIA) Unknown: 12 No Rovers: 9 So we have: Series: 84 (52%) Defender: 25 (15%) Ranger Rover: 22 (14%) Discovery: 29 (18%) Other: 2 ( 1%) === ==== 162 100% Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Benjamin Smith---------bens@sv.sc.philips.com----------1972 Land Rover SIII 88 Pencom Systems Administration---> EDS/Philips ------------------------------------ From: GElam30092@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:15:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Garvin Industries I called to check on the order for my rack. He's got everything made but needs to do some final fitting and check on a Discovery. He's trying making to borrow a vehicle through LR but it's taking more time that he estimated. Here's the deal: if someone could loan him a Discovery for 2-3 days, he can get the fitting completed. If you're in the market, he'll sell you a rack at a discount in return. I'l have mine over there but it's too far. If you're interested, give Bob Garvin a call at 619-440-7415. Again, he's at 316 Millar Ave in El Cajon CA. Let me know if you're interest too. Thanks.. Gerry Elam (A)bort, (R)etry, (G)et a beer? ------------------------------------ From: growl@hsmpk14a-101.Eng.Sun.COM (William L. Grouell) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:35:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Clutch > > This is certainly the approach I'd take if I had no tool. However, I wonder > at whether it will get close (accurate?) to the appropriate torque. > > Having said that it must also be acknowledged that use of the correct tool > to the correct torque is technically impossible because of the locking tab > fit to the nut (as I recall). Torquing to full spec (100 ftlbs as spec'd by > Fairey/Superwinch) places the pieces in such a relationship that the assembly > can't be locked. I'm going by memory here but I believe that backing off the > nut and retorquing with the appropriate tool or equivalent to the point where > locking is possible produced a reading of 80-90 ft/lbs or thereabouts. > > Jeremy > You just described exactly why the "brass drift" is just as good as the "correct wrench" method. If I was in the Land Rover repair business, I would own "the wrench" but since my needs are maybe twice in a life time, I think that a drift is a more than reasonable solution. There is only one position where the nut is tight and you are able to bend the locking tab in place. You can get it to that position (and not damage anything) with a brass drift and a hammer. ~bg Q: Have you lived in this town all your life? A: Not yet. ------------------------------------ From: "Nick C. Baggarly" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:02:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: overdrive tool >Kerner, R. wrote: >> >> I also have the proper gear and plate to put on my PTO hole when my >> overdrive fails. So what special tool am I supposed to need? > >Tool 600800 which is basicall a socket with extend "teeth" capable of >gripping the conical castleated nut on the output shaft. > >There's reportedly one of these tools floating around and I believe >Kelly Minnick has a diagram for construction of said tool (?). > >cheers, > >Jeremy Then Bob said... >There is/was one that LROA owns for loaning out. >It was made by Geoff Tobin and donated. It was being cared for by Dom Dias. >But when I called him to get it, he called back a week or two later and said >he can't find it. >Maybe it was in some boxes of club stuff he brought to a meeting and it >could be at John Hess's or Michael Carradines house. >I think if several of us want the tool, Geoff would set up and make some for >a reasonable price. I phoned Dom about the tool a few months ago and he boxed it up and sent it to me since I have an overdrive to install. It's available if anyone needs it. Kevin Kelley, being the quartermaster gadget custodian and all, should probably keep track of who has it. Nick ------------------------------------ From: John Hess Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:33:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Diesel Conversion > > If a person was to put a MB diesel in a 'rover, all they would need > would be the adapter for it to connect to the tranny, right ? > > Alan DuBoff Problem with MB diesel (or so I've been told) is the oil pan and front axle. also, steering box and engine clearance is tight although a RHD vehicle might be OK. Doug Shipman has one and an adapter; go for it! ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:44:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine The Lucas Oil product is fully compatible with engine start up and operation. Expect some smoke until the coating wears down. Steve ------------------------------------ From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 16:52:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Come uppance >TeriAnn said: > >>The series III guage may need a voltage stabilizer (earlier ones do not). > >Gooey has one so I assume all Series III use 'em > > >Cheers, >Gerry Mugele > Thanks to both TeriAnn and Gerry. BTW, TAnn, if you can find 'em, please send two up to me. If they make a difference, I'll pay you for them, if not, I'll reinstall the old ones and send yours back. Is there an end to this??? =:-0 ----- Dale W. Avery KC7MM & Ms Daisy '73-SIII-88" "No matter where you go, there you are." ------------------------------------ From: Uncle Roger Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:26:22 -0800 Subject: Re: Subscribe digest. At 10:00 PM 2/19/97 -1000, you wrote: >You're only looking skin deep; you've got to get past this shallow >perspective :>)))) Nah, Land Rovers shine with an inner beauty that could leave even Leo Buscaglia speechless... >>I'll bet your name gets misspelled and mispronounced even more than mine! 8^) > >BTW, I don't think Roger is hard to spell or pronounce!!!! You think you jest, and yet, you'd be surprised at how many people try to stick a D in there somewhere. And the G gets changed to a J; I've even seen it spelled racher. And lots of folks with accents have trouble with the G too... Roy-er is common, and Raw-cher... --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn@crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/ ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 16:29:08 PST Subject: Re: GPS > > Hi all, > I need some advice on GPS units. A friend has a Garmin 45 unit that's less > than one year old. He wants to sell it because he is getting the latest > Garmin 45XL. > > I'm told that the difference between the two are the new one tracks off of > 12 satellites instead of 8, and that there is a "return" feature that is > easier to read on the newer unit? > > He is asking somewhere around $200. I was told that the unit new was about > $350. > > Questions; > 1- Is this a good unit. Does anyone have experience with this unit? > 2- Is there another brand that's better? I've heard about the Trimble > scout? > > Any advice/help would be greatly appreciated! > > Cheers, > Barnett > 95 D90 w/lots o' stuff but...(GPS challenged :>.) > I have a 45. The 45XL is not worth the change in money. Buy the 12XL. It is a true 12 parallel channel GPS and can lock on extremely fast! The 45 XL is only a software upgrade! The 45 is definately worth the $200, but if you want a truly great GPS, buy the 12XL!!! Kelly Minnick p.s. Buy the $99(retail) external antenna if you buy the 45. Makes a world of difference! ------------------------------------ From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:02:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Albatross 8PM Tonight!! >So we have: > >Series: 84 (52%) >Defender: 25 (15%) >Ranger Rover: 22 (14%) >Discovery: 29 (18%) >Other: 2 ( 1%) > === ==== > 162 100% > >Ben The way things are going, Ben, pretty soon we Series owners may slip into a signifcant minority status. Any idea of many own both a Series and a Disco/RR/Defender? Fun info! ----- Dale W. Avery KC7MM & Ms Daisy '73-SIII-88" "No matter where you go, there you are." ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 16:37:20 PST Subject: Re: Clutch > > Kerner, R. wrote: > > > > I also have the proper gear and plate to put on my PTO hole when my > > overdrive fails. So what special tool am I supposed to need? > > Tool 600800 which is basicall a socket with extend "teeth" capable of > gripping the conical castleated nut on the output shaft. > > There's reportedly one of these tools floating around and I believe > Kelly Minnick has a diagram for construction of said tool (?). > > cheers, > > Jeremy > Yup. Gave a DXF drawing to Ben. Being the Lazy Bugger that I am, I never got a cost estimate to have them built by this retired machinist. He works for something like $10/hr or something... If there is interest again, I will check... I do have a tool, but my arm has to be twisted to get it. Just want to make sure I get it BACK! Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 16:50:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speedo corrections/tire sizes >Dale, since you have an electronic tach, and you can measure the tire >diameter, your gear ratio is the stock 4:70:1, times the constant (which is >pi x 60 min/hr), you can calculate your exact MPH based on your tach. Make >the calculations for 2,000 and 3,000 rpm, and see what your speedo reads (4th >gear, no low or o/d). If it's way off, the speedo can be recalibrated using >the first technique. Calculate the ratio and the speedo can be regeared for >your tire/gear combo. Just provide the ratio with the speedo and the shop can >calibrate it on their end. > >Steve > Thanks, Steve. Once I get the speedo cable installed correctly, I'll let you know how it goes. I'm also going to try the "follow me down the road" technique. I'll have Nancy follow down the road and will blink my lights at, let's say 30, 45, 50, and 60 MPH. She can tell me how fast I am going according to the Saturn's speedometer. Then I'll follow her and she can "blink" for me. Sort of an amateur double blind test :-) I'm going to stick a .70 jet in the Weber. Dang thing hasn't run the same since I installed it on the new engine. It's weak when the engine is cold, and I'm getting some intake manifold ignition. Will recheck the valves. When warm, it runs pretty good. Can't figure that out. Jimmy Patrick had the same problem with surging (the vehicle feels like it has little surge/pause, surge/pause sequences when accellerating). Nothing major, but I can "feel" them. I haven't driven Daisy much in about a month because of all of this. Want to get it right rather than hurt the new engine. I wonder what the neighbors think when I start her up, play with the carb for a while, drive around the block, pull her back into the garage, play with the carb awhile, etc....Guess this is just a new way of spending time. I used to do the same thing with my ham radio antennas...put 'em up, try them on the air, pull them down, adjust them etc. Guess there's always sitting on the couch, drinking beer and watching T.V., just kidding. ----- Dale W. Avery KC7MM & Ms Daisy '73-SIII-88" "No matter where you go, there you are." ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 16:56:56 PST Subject: Re: Clutch > It was made by Geoff Tobin and donated. It was being cared for by Dom Dias. > But when I called him to get it, he called back a week or two later and said > he can't find it. > Maybe it was in some boxes of club stuff he brought to a meeting and it > could be at John Hess's or Michael Carradines house. > > I think if several of us want the tool, Geoff would set up and make some for > a reasonable price. > > Bob B > > > See what I mean? Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 16:53:44 PST Subject: Re: Range Rover Headlight Washers > > Does anyone have any idea how to stop my headlight washers from > "dribbling". About one ounce of washer fluid has been leaking out of > both washer nozzles for the past few days. Yesterday I ran the washers > for about 30 seconds to try and "clear them out" and now only one of the > squirters is leaking but it is leaking faster. I put an automotive > in-line fuel filter just below the washer fluid tank about two years > ago, so I don't think the nozzles are clogged. > > Kevin Kelly > > > If they are like the SAAB's, they have an internal 'valve' that keeps them from dripping after the pressure has been removed - like a mechanical fuel injector, just lower pressure! Some times the spring becomes weak, but the little rubber seal thing may be gone or worn out! Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: BRITPAC@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:48:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: overdrive tool We also loan out the tool when we sell overdrives. We have a few and are having more made. Of course, this assumes you buy your O/D from US, dosen't it? Nah, we'd loan it to you anyway. Steve ------------------------------------ From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 16:58:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Albatross 8PM Tonight!! > * * * * * * * * * * Calling all Land Rovers! * * * * * * * * * * > > Come meet the President/Editor of "Land Rover Magazine" of Japan. > This highbrow 'collectors' quarterly magazine has a circulation of > around 10,000 and sells for ~$18 per single issue. Copies of the > magazine will be available for review and pro bono distribution. > > Kind regards, > >-Michael Carradine > VP, LROA > Michael, I take it you will be sharing some photos and an article on the event with us "Country Rubes" in an upcoming edition of AW? Qui? Please don't get any ideas about increasing LROA membership due! Wow, $18 an issue. Does it come with samples of car wax and engine degreaser, or what? ----- Dale W. Avery KC7MM & Ms Daisy '73-SIII-88" "No matter where you go, there you are." ------------------------------------ From: twakeman@scruznet.com (TeriAnn Wakeman) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:19:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Come uppance At 4:52 PM 2/20/97 -0800, Dale W. Avery wrote: >Thanks to both TeriAnn and Gerry. BTW, TAnn, if you can find 'em, please >send two up to me. If they make a difference, I'll pay you for them, if >not, I'll reinstall the old ones and send yours back. > Lets make SURE we understand each other. You have a series III 88 I have a pair of series II sender units that will NOT work with a series III fuel guage. Have you installed a series II fuel guage in your series III?????? SInce I'm one of the laziest buggers around, I don't want to go through the effort of shipping the wrong part. >Is there an end to this??? =:-0 The journy IS the reward ;^) TeriAnn Wakeman "Large format photographers look Santa Cruz California at the world upside down and twakeman@scruznet.com backwards" ------------------------------------ From: "Nick C. Baggarly" Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:18:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: APB Does anyone have John Hong's email address or phone number? Last I heard he was working at 3COM. Nick ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 21:04:43 PST Subject: Octane I use to have an article that showed how much it cost to add each octane to our fuel (the rating that is, not actual octane rings). Was something like $.002/octane point. Therefore, 92 should not cost much more than 87 in my book! Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: James Howard Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:55:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Range Rover Compression On Thu, 20 Feb 1997 BRITPAC@aol.com wrote: > I'm sure everyone knows this, but octane levels are different in gas sold at > higher altitudes, and during winter/summer. Gas bought in the high mesas of > New Mexico during winter is pretty low octane if memory serves. Additives are > also changed (to aid in freezing protection?). It's also the cheapest of > anywhere I've found. Any connection? The octane numbers on the pumps here in Flagstaff (7000')are the same as in Phoenix(1500'). That is, 87, 89 and 92. The gas is usually cheaper in Phoenix - in fact, the state is currently investigating why the prices are usually so high in rural areas ($0.10 to $0.20 more). Not coincidently, I guess, I noted that the prices today in Phoenix were the same as here. Anyway, it is $1.33 for 87, $1.39 for 89, and $1.47 for 92 in Flag. The cheapest gas I have found recently was $0.99 for 87 in southwestern Virginia over Christmas. James ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 21:08:32 PST Subject: Re: Storing/Preserving a Rebuilt Engine Steve said: > ps: Looking forward to all comers! Of course, if it takes a few years, Hippo > may need a freshening up to stay competetive. > Does it have to be a Rover motor? What about displacement and tire size? Can I put the quick-change rear end in my 88" first? The Saab turbo would fit, but the added heat load was too high for low speed stuff! :) I think I will stick with the steel rims on the front to keep the front end down on my flaming burn-out take offs... Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 22:57:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Come uppance >Lets make SURE we understand each other. > >You have a series III 88 > >I have a pair of series II sender units that will NOT work with a series >III fuel guage. > >Have you installed a series II fuel guage in your series III?????? NO, I have not installed a series II fuel guage(s)in Daisy. > >SInce I'm one of the laziest buggers around, I don't want to go through the >effort of shipping the wrong part. > Let each of us stay lazy, don't send them. >>Is there an end to this??? =:-0 > >The journy IS the reward ;^) > O.K., Lao Tzu, I just want to get some miles on her before I die of old age! >TeriAnn Wakeman What do you know about Canon AE-1's? ----- Dale W. Avery KC7MM & Ms Daisy '73-SIII-88" "No matter where you go, there you are." ------------------------------------ From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 23:02:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: APB >Does anyone have John Hong's email address or phone number? >Last I heard he was working at 3COM. > >Nick > I thought he moved to Hawaii... According to the membership list in AW, his phone number is 808-593-3782 in Honolulu. ----- Dale W. Avery KC7MM & Ms Daisy '73-SIII-88" "No matter where you go, there you are." ------------------------------------ From: davery@on-ramp.ior.com (Dale W. Avery) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 23:02:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Come uppance >Lets make SURE we understand each other. > >You have a series III 88 > >I have a pair of series II sender units that will NOT work with a series >III fuel guage. > >Have you installed a series II fuel guage in your series III?????? NO, I have not installed a series II fuel guage(s)in Daisy. > >SInce I'm one of the laziest buggers around, I don't want to go through the >effort of shipping the wrong part. > Let each of us stay lazy, don't send them. >>Is there an end to this??? =:-0 > >The journy IS the reward ;^) > O.K., Lao Tzu, I just want to get some miles on her before I die of old age! >TeriAnn Wakeman What do you know about Canon AE-1's? ----- Dale W. Avery KC7MM & Ms Daisy '73-SIII-88" "No matter where you go, there you are." ------------------------------------ From: Kevin Kelly Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:12:07 -0800 Subject: Photos of Land Rovers in SF >For the Saturday daylight shots participating Rovers might want to >pick some other locations or caravan to different parts with the >intention of offering various "San Francisco" or "US" backdrops >such as the urban city, Diamond Peak, the Park, or perhaps the >Golden Gate National Seashore and Forts just north of the Golden >Gate Bridge. It looks like it will be one of the best weekends in a long time for photos in San Francisco. When I was on 24 coming back from Walnut Creek today (the office I was working at this week was just above the Land Rover dealer) I had one of the clearest views of SF in a long time. The weather guy on KGO said the weather is going to be even nicer this weekend. >If he's into Golf, there might be some pictures at the golf course at >Lake Merced. There is a great view of the Golden Gate bridge on the road that runs along the side of the 17th hole at Lincoln Park. Kevin Kelly Who may be able to stop by the ferry building on my way to Marin Saturday ------------------------------------ From: Kevin Kelly Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:01:36 -0800 Subject: MBZ Diesel in a Land Rover >If a person was to put a MB diesel in a 'rover, all they would need >would be the adapter for it to connect to the tranny, right ? They would also need a three pointed star for the hood ;-) Kevin Kelly ------------------------------------ From: Kevin Kelly Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:42:33 -0800 Subject: U.S. Spec. Range Rover Classic FAQ My updated U.S. Spec. Range Rover Classic FAQ is now up on the Rover Web at: http://www.off-road.com/LR_FAQ/RR/FAQ.RR.RangeRoverC_US.html It is getting a little long so I am going to split it up. The next version will have an easy to read summary of major changes to the Range Rover and a super long version with more VIN cut off dates and part numbers. Ben Smith was nice enough to convert my MS Word document to HTLM and get it on the Rover Web. I welcome anyone with a Land Rover page to have a link to my page. If anyone already has a link, please check to make sure the URL is correct. If anyone has any corrections or additions let me know so I can correct them in the next version. Kevin Kelly ------------------------------------ End of Digest