From: mendo_recce@ridgecrest.ca.us Subject: Digest for mendo_recce: 8/29/1996 Errors-To: owner-mendo_recce@ridgecrest.ca.us Reply-To: mendo_recce@ridgecrest.ca.us Precedence: bulk This is the digest for the mendo_recce mailling list ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------ From: "John C. White, III" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 06:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: ABFM Sunday We-e-ell, the brochure (center page, lower right in the box with the drawing of the SII 88) says, "...LandRovers (sic) supplied by LandRover of Portland, or on Sunday, take your own LandRover through or ride with a knowledgeable Pacific Coast Rover Club member." Cheers! John At 16:26 28.08.96 -0700, slade@sisna.com wrote: >>Hey guys going to The Portland ABFM. I need to know when on Sunday, the LR >>obstacle course is. I left my brochure at work and I am NOT going back >>there before tuesday. Can someone let me know what the times are for the >>activities. Thanks >> Paul >> >>Paul Archibald >>Parch9@aol.com >>'58 SII 88 2-litre RHD >>'87 Range Rover (Squeak) > >Paul, > >As far as I know the off-road course is run only through the LR dealership >on Saturday (you get to ride, no drive, in thier cars), and anyone in the >club with a LR can do it on Sunday. Both ways you have to sign a waiver >(no biggie). > >Granted, I'm a newbie to the PABFM, so perhaps a veteran attendee can confirm. > > >Michael Slade >'70 109 Station Wagon >Portland, OR >slade@sisna.com > > > > ------------------------------------ From: "John C. White, III" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 06:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: ABFM Sunday 10am to 3pm. See you there. John At 15:30 28.08.96 +0100, Paul Archibald wrote: >Hey guys going to The Portland ABFM. I need to know when on Sunday, the LR >obstacle course is. I left my brochure at work and I am NOT going back >there before tuesday. Can someone let me know what the times are for the >activities. Thanks > Paul > >Paul Archibald >Parch9@aol.com >'58 SII 88 2-litre RHD >'87 Range Rover (Squeak) > > > > ------------------------------------ From: "Walter C. Swain" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 07:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Winston Arrives - a S1 Joins the List Jeremy, you are a glutton for pain, aren't you?! #8^) Do you think you can get a Turner rebuilt for an 80"? As long as misery loves company, you ought to get to know Jim Gwynn (near Spokane) very well since he is up to his eyebrows in Series I's. I think he is one of the more serious collectors in the area and seems to thrive on interaction with other Rover owners. His house is surrounded by shops and there are Land Rovers of virtually every description and condition belonging to his friends. When I was there a couple of years ago I think there were over 20. I have contact info if you want it. Have fun. Walt On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Jeremy Bartlett wrote: > Yes it's true I am insane. > > I just returned from S. Calif with a 1952 (51?) S1 80, newly > christened Winston (time for one of those Churchills :) ). > > Restoration/renovation/conversion is scheduled to begin in > about 2 years :) - Mathilda's been enough for now and I need > to carefully think through the restoration vs. conversion > options. > > The trip/tow was relatively uneventful except for the tank > base plate rear (fortunately not the front) coming lose just > before I reached the East Bay. It turns out plain nuts > rather than lockers or aeros had been used to hold it in > place and they vibrated loose. Not too bad considering I > was expecting a tire to blow somewhere along the way - the > sidewalls have so many cracks I expect they crumble rather > than flex. > > So, I guess I'm partly in the market for S1 parts - damn I > thought I was done with that :) > > cheers, > > Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: Kelly Minnick Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 7:50:45 PDT Subject: Re: Winston Arrives - a S1 Joins the List > Jeremy, you are a glutton for pain, aren't you?! #8^) Do you think you > can get a Turner rebuilt for an 80"? > > > I think Craddock had a BUNCH of brand-new SI motors. Kelly Minnick ------------------------------------ From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:12:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Winston Arrives - a S1 Joins the List You wrote: > >I think Craddock had a BUNCH of brand-new SI motors. >Kelly Minnick > A I recall these were MOD rebuilds, probably something REME or the Transport Regiment had their novice squaddies (or weekend TAVR) do for training since they were lying around unused :) cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:23:49 -0700 Subject: Dating Winston You wrote: > > If you look at the FAQ, you should be able to date the 80" fairly >accurately. The serial numvers had a year character in them back then. >And the number of 80" made per year is exactly known. So you could interpolate >when it was built. I have some data here in KC, so if you send me the >serial number, I could see what I can find. > >Ben > Ah, now here's the catch: no # stamped on the spring hanger area. The radiator chain anchor is stamped 9 50. So I'm betting its a 51. The engine ID is visible but I've not checked it yet. The diff housing stamps are covered with dirt and grime, so no help. No info from the windshield either :) cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:30:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Winston Arrives - a S1 Joins the List Kelly said: >I think Craddock had a BUNCH of brand-new SI motors. I remember that ad! Military surplus N.O.S. and you could get the with or without all ancillaries. Sounded like a very sweet deal. *If* you do want to put in another Series I engine... Granny ------------------------------------ From: Jeremy Bartlett Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:42:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Winston Arrives - a S1 Joins the List Walter C. Swain wrote: > > Jeremy, you are a glutton for pain, aren't you?! #8^) Do you think you > can get a Turner rebuilt for an 80"? Sure - as long as its a 2.25 :). Actually I seem to have 2.25 lying around. So the question is: How feasible is a 2.25 engine SII or SIII transmission conversion. > > As long as misery loves company, you ought to get to know Jim Gwynn snip > I have contact info if you want it. > > Have fun. > > Walt > I think I have this info. somewhere already but wouldn't turn down another copy of it. cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 09:45:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Dating Winston Jeremy said: >Ah, now here's the catch: no # stamped on the spring hanger area. >The radiator chain anchor is stamped 9 50. So I'm betting its a 51. The >engine ID is visible but I've not checked it yet. The diff housing stamps are >covered with dirt and grime, so no help. No info from the windshield either :) I take it that it does not have an ID plate inside the cabin, on the bulkhead? Mine does. Granny ------------------------------------ From: bobnsueb@maxinet.com (Bob and Sue Bernard) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:20:47 -0700 Subject: No LR Content - just Humor Just a little ditty I thought you'd all enjoy. Sue >In a recent issue of "Meat & Poultry" magazine, editors quoted from >"Feathers," the publication of the California Poultry Industry >Federation, reporting the following story: > >It seems the US Federal Aviation Administration has a unique device for >testing the strength of windshields on airplanes. The device is an air >cannon that launches a dead chicken at a plane's windshield at >approximately the speed the plane flies. > >The theory is that if the windshield doesn't crack from the carcass >impact, it'll survive a real collision with a bird during flight. It >seems that British Rail was very interested in this and wanted to test a >windshield on a brand new, ultra high speed locomotive they're >developing. > >They borrowed the FAA's chicken launcher, loaded the chicken and fired. >The ballistic chicken shattered the windshield, went through the >engineer's chair, broke an instrument panel and embedded itself in the >back wall of the engine cab. The British engineers were stunned and >asked the FAA to review the test to see if everything was done >correctly. > >The FAA checked the test thoroughly and had one recommendation: > >"Try thawing the chicken next time." > > > >*********************************************************************** >Kristine Gross >Department of Chemistry and Physics >Rowan College of New Jersey >Glassboro, NJ USA > > "This message brought to you on 100% recycled electrons." >*********************************************************************** > ------------------------------------ From: smthengr@sirius.com (Jeff Smith) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:37:10 -0800 Subject: Six_Rivers_Shuffle, Part two Six_Rivers_Shuffle Part Two Answer to trivia question: The Six Rivers are the Smith, Klamath, Trinity, Eel, Mad and Van Duzen. As Bob and I continued down the rocky trail we continued to have to get out of the car to check clearances and move an occasional small boulder. Several times we came across a small tree right in the middle of the road confirming that no one had been down this road in a while. Most of the trees we could drive over, but several were 5'-6' tall with 2" diameter trunks and I only have that plastic Land Rover thingy for a front end. Damn! I left my axe back at the camp. It must have looked silly to see Bob, his bum leg, and me attempting to fall a tree by bending it over and bludgeoning it at the base with a rock. At the bottom of this down hill section was a boulder covered culvert. The terrain then transitioned to a very narrow, very steep, rocky uphill section. Time to lock up the center diff in low gear. Suddenly I was overcome by thermal clairvoyance which suggested that the burritos should be just about ready. As anticipated the burritos were prepared to perfection, complemented with a single incident of vapor lock, we enjoyed a quick lunch. Rejuvenated from the pit stop I then charged the hill while keeping my eye on the side hill cliff to my left. The Land Rover didn't flinch and I paused at the top of the 1/4 mile section of hill to admire the view looking down. We continued on a relatively flat section, except for the steep sidehill that we were traversing, only to encounter more of these damn treelings in the center of the trail. During our next bludgeoning session we noticed that the tree had some small relatively recent scaring at about bumper height, so someone had passed this trail after all. Soon the terrain began to get denser with vegetation. The middle of the trail had intermittent two to three foot high clumps of bushes that we felt necessary to check for hidden gremlins or diff whackers. Further on we began to encounter encroaching pine tree and the dreaded manzanita pin stripers. At one clearing we had a view of the entire side hill terrain we had just driven, almost back to the trail head several miles away. We continued on as the terrain became denser and denser approaching almost jungle-like proportions. I could hear myself grimace to the nails-across-the-chalkboard sounds of flora kissing the epsom green lacquer. I asked Bob how his side looked, he replied "just let it go, Jeff". This continue on for what seemed like an eternity until at last we daylighted to a graded forest service road. I looked back and saw a ribbon on a branch, but had we approached this trail from the opposite direction we would have never considered entering the trail. Bob and I reveled in our success and I was somewhat relieved that the worst was behind us. A few miles down the road we came upon Coon Creek so we drove down to the waters edge to refresh ourselves. A few more miles and we tied back in with French Hill Road and continued on back to hwy 199 and then to Jed Smith Camp ground. All in all about a 40 mile 4 hour road trip of which only about 8 miles was along the lonely OHV trail. Heading into camp, Bob suggested I back the Land Rover in to keep the nastiest sections of altered paint facing away from our our awaiting camp mates. From a distance I could already see the sad face of my wife who recognized the new look from a distance. After a private talk and encouragement that the scratches were nothing that a new orbital buffer couldn't take care of, all seemed well. Unfortunately the next day we all had to pack up and head home. Dorothy and I decided to take the Bald Hills Road out of Orick through Lady Bird Johnson Grove and eventually ending up in Hoopa. The first half of this dirt road is very scenic with panoramic views of the Redwoods National Park to the south west. We then continued on along the Trinity River through Willow Creek, Salyer (Land of Bigfoot, however no sightings this time), Weaverville, Redding and then down I5 to San Francisco. Overall the Discovery performed very well, however, I am keeping my eye on a few areas that need to be looked at. First, when ever I turn right while moving I hear a hissing, air sound coming from somewhere near the brake peddle. What is this? Shocks? Brakes? When I slam on the brakes for sudden stops the brakes chatter and skip, there is lubrication leak streak in my passenger window and I acquired a broken antenna. Heading south on I5 I was playing around with the compass and I was perplexed that the compass indicated we were heading south west. I thought to myself "what the..." It was only after I moved it around in the cabin that I realized that the Disco side speakers effect the compass readings from as far away as 2 feet. In addition to this annoyance the speakers don't even sound very good. My one day of offroading in SRNF was memorable and my co-pilot Bob made the trip all the more enjoyable. I regret that the route we stumbled across may not be an ideal venue for a group gathering, but I am sure that there must be other nearby areas better suited. I will probably return to the area next year and allocate more time with the Forest Service to chart out some other routes. One thing that I missed was finding trails that ended up "somewhere". In contrast, one of the beauties of P-Lost is the variety of lake and vista hopping all within close proximity. It also seemed like P-Lost caters more to regular recreational off road use whereas in the area I visited in Six Rivers I never saw a soul, not even a $40. man (which is not necessarily a bad thing). Looking forward to more adventure. Cheers, Jeff Smith Regards, Jeff Smith. S.E. phone: (415) 543-8651 fax: (415) 543-8679 email: smthengr@sirius.com Smith Engineering 27 South Park San Francisco, CA 94107 " Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet." ------------------------------------ From: Randolph Rose Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Winston Arrives - a S1 Joins the List What color is it? Is the oil pan bashed on so far you can't change the oil? Does it have an air compressor mounted on a PTO? Just wondering if it is one I used to know. Randy ------------------------------------ From: "Robert Watson (CNA/Solutions)" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:51:37 -0700 Subject: Readings from the great book The Great Big Service manual book that is. I got my copy of the Disco service manuals a couple of days ago from BritPac (very promptly, I might add. Thanks!) I thought I'd share Some interesting tidbits gleaned from my first perusal: WRT TomW's transmission not down shifiting. One of the road tests for the Auto box is (quoting from memory) "At 85 mph down shift from D to 3. The transmission should shift immediately to 3rd gear..." (Sounds like a fun test, "But officer, I was just following the procedure defined by the Manufacturer..." :-) Electrical troublshooting seems to be accomplished mainly by a Digitial voltmeter and a light bulb. Sounds easy enough, except the ETM is 2.5" thick. (I'll just pack a lunch along with the voltmeter!) The transfer case has a PTO (off the engine side of the Transfer gears) but it's covered by a plate. Sounds like an accessory opportunity. Has anyone seen any? (e.g. hydraulic pump for a winch, etc.) more later! -- Bob Watson '95 Discovery ------------------------------------ From: Stephanie Changaris Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Paradise pics Greetings, Among my Paradise photos is a very nice shot of Don in his orange Series with at least two feet of air under his right front tire. I imagine he would like to have a copy. Anyone know how to get in touch with him? I don't think he is on the list. In the background of the shot, you can just make out Mike Slade's 109 tilting at the opposite angle. As much as I adore Spot and Stella, I have to admit the 90s aren't nearly as photogenic as the Series rigs. I also have a pic of Scott B in the same spot, but it's not quite so dramatic -- only a couple of inches of air under the Rangie tire. There are also the usual shots of the D90s and Queenie making steep rocky chutes look easy -- Lynn & Jim, Rick, Jeremy, and Eric, I'll hand them over next time we meet. Stephanie 95 D90 SW "Stella" ------------------------------------ From: debrown@srp.gov Date: 29 Aug 96 11:26:31 MST Subject: Broken half shaft. FROM: David Brown Internet: debrown@srp.gov Computer Graphics Specialist ~ S.R.P. ~ AM/FM - Graphic Records PAB219 (602)236-3544 - Pager:6486 External (602)275-2508 #6486 Hi there! Yesterday I reported a "bang" and then no motion... Well, several guessed the half shaft. You were correct! I pulled both of them out this morning, and pulled off the prop shaft as well, so nothing should be turning inside there now. Sure feels weird turning corners in front wheel drive. The short side half shaft broke, and luckily, I have a spare short side! However... The shaft was very obviously twisted and the break itself is over 8" long! (20 CM) The shaft is also bent about 4" from the outside end, and is worn down about .15" at this point. (Really chewed up!) I can't wait to open her up and see what other damage was done! It surely must have torn something else up. I may need to replace the whole diff, case and all! :-( The half shaft looks like it was cast in 2 pieces? There's a "seam" running down both halves. Is this "normal?" It broke along this "seam." Thanks to all who helped diagnose this, and Lisa for offering rides or what ever else may be needed. It is very comforting to know that none of us is "alone" in the "Land Rover experience." All of the sudden that wobbly front U-joint is far more urgent on my "to do" list! Best regards, Dave Brown. #=======# _________ "What lies behind us and what lies |__|__|__\___ //__/__|__\___ before us are tiny matters compared | _| | |_ |} \__ - ____ - _|} to what lies within us." "(_)""""""(_)" (_) (_) Ralph Waldo Emerson ------------------------------------ From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:47:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Paradise pics Stephanie asked: >Among my Paradise photos is a very nice shot of Don in his orange Series >with at least two feet of air under his right front tire. I imagine he >would like to have a copy. Anyone know how to get in touch with him? I >don't think he is on the list. I thought Don was on the list. In any case, here's his e-mail address: Sounds like you got some good shots! I'd like to see these of Don's 88 and Scott's RR. I got some nice ones, too. I got an especially nice one of Don's 88 in a field of wildflowers. I tried to get one of it nearly tipping over but didn't snap at the right moment and the shot is blah. Oh, well. Whatever extras I have, I'll try to bring to the Palo Alto meet. Cheers, Granny ------------------------------------ From: slade@sisna.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:43:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Paradise pics Stephanie, you tempt me by writing... > >In the background of the shot, you can just make out Mike Slade's 109 >tilting at the opposite angle. As much as I adore Spot and Stella, I have >to admit the 90s aren't nearly as photogenic as the Series rigs. > I'll be bringing a bunch of slides to the PABFM for those of you from CA that might be showing up (is there a tally yet?). Got some good shots of your White D90, a sweet shot of "The Light Brigade", and a few others that are nice (Ben's 88 with some nice flowers in the foreground). Hope to see you there. Maybe we can trade prints? Michael Slade '70 109 Station Wagon Portland, OR slade@sisna.com ------------------------------------ From: bronson@diamondmm.com (Scott Bronson) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:08:24 -0800 Subject: Re: Paradise pics >Among my Paradise photos is a very nice shot of Don in his orange Series >with at least two feet of air under his right front tire. I imagine he >would like to have a copy. Anyone know how to get in touch with him? DonaldX_Morton@ccm.sc.intel.com >I also have a pic of Scott B in the same spot, but it's not quite so >dramatic -- only a couple of inches of air under the Rangie tire. That is one of my complaints about the Range Rover. You just can't feel the terrain you're driving over. It doesn't even look like it's doing anything exciting until it is completely out of balance (which I avoid at every opportunity). Maybe I should look into leaf spring conversions... - Scott ------------------------------------ From: jfriedman@value.net (john friedman) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:12:18 -0800 Subject: 109 diff ? broken axle ? Most likely a broken axle. U-joints should give warnings - vibration or shudder and spinning a flopping drive shaft is dramatic. At least get your drive shaft off. PRONTO. This will lessen further damage before pulling axles. But you can easily take out an axle (try the short one 1st) and put the hub w/o back on till you're ready to deal with it. Check both shafts for wear and twist. I seem to remember that the crown nut is the same size as the wheel lug nuts. You'll have lots of cleaning up in the diff to get all the bits of ground up axle out even if no other damage was done. ------------------------------------ From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 13:35:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Winston Arrives - a S1 Joins the List You wrote: > >What color is it? None. > Is the oil pan bashed on Yes >so far you can't change >the oil? Don't know. >Does it have an air compressor mounted on a PTO? Just wondering >if it is one I used to know. > >Randy > Currently no air compressor. cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: jjbpears@ix.netcom.com (Jeremy Bartlett) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 13:37:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Dating Winston You wrote: >I take it that it does not have an ID plate inside the cabin, on the >bulkhead? Mine does. > >Granny No LR ID plate that I've found, although there is a Calif ID plate in the doorpost area. By the way, any chance I can stop by and look at your collection on Sept. 7 on my way back from the northwest. cheers, Jeremy ------------------------------------ From: gpool@pacific.net (Granville Pool) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:09:51 -0700 Subject: Scott's leafer conversion Scott said: >That is one of my complaints about the Range Rover. You just can't feel >the terrain you're driving over. It doesn't even look like it's doing >anything exciting until it is completely out of balance (which I avoid at >every opportunity). Maybe I should look into leaf spring conversions... Tell ya what, Scott: I'll trade you chassis. Granny ------------------------------------ From: DonaldX Morton Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 15:39:00 PDT Subject: RE:Paradise pics Stephanie wrote: >Among my Paradise photos is a very nice shot of Don in his orange >Series with at least two feet of air under his right front tire. I >imagine he would like to have a copy. Anyone know how to get in >touch with him? I don't think he is on the list. I would love to get a copy of that picture. I want to show my wife how much fun this kind of thing is. HA HA !! I hope to see you all at Palo Alto. Wish I was going to Portland! Thanks, Don 1960 88" orange (my wife calls it tangerine) ------------------------------------ From: Stephanie Changaris Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Paradise pics On Thu, 29 Aug 1996 slade@sisna.com wrote: > I'll be bringing a bunch of slides to the PABFM for those of you from CA > that might be showing up (is there a tally yet?). > Got some good shots of your White D90, a sweet shot of "The Light Brigade", I'll plan on seeing them soon then, since we're off to Portland shortly. Did have a bit of a scare this morning though -- on my way to work, Stella died! She wasn't getting any fuel. Great, we're about to leave on a longish trip and I'm remembering the fuel pump thread.... Fortunately it was merely driver error -- I'd run out of gas. Rather than hauling out the five gallon can and risking getting fuel all over my business clothes, though, I called AAA and paid the guy five bucks to do it for me. Different survival skills for different environments, right? See you tomorrow night. Stephanie 95 D90 SW "Stella" ------------------------------------ From: "Robert Watson (CNA/Solutions)" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:46:42 -0700 Subject: Updated list of net.attendees for '96 Portland ABFM Unless I get any new submissions this will be the last transmission of this message. See you all in Portland this weekend! No Rovers: (bring get well cards for their rovers :-) Ben Smith bens@ridgecrest.ca.us Chris Youngson cyoungso@direct.ca With Rovers: Bob Watson a-robw@microsoft.com Vehicle Beluga Black Discovery License WA N7UMU Features Light bar, Brush Bar John Ousterhout jouster@earth.rocket.com Vehicle Sand 109 License WA 041 BMJ Features HD Bumper, Raised Exhaust, Diesel Dave Rosenbaum rosenbau@u.washington.edu Vehicle Conniston Green D90 License WA 194 FJL Features Surrey Top Bruce Curtis brutus@Eng.Sun.COM Vehicle Beluga Black Discovery License CA 3NFH715 Features OME Lift, SG Bumper & Skid Plate, CB/HAM TeriAnn Wakeman twakeman@scruznet.com Vehicle bare w/ patches series II 109 two door License CA Hist. 7050 Features Dormobile w/snorkel & blond Irish Wolfhound John White jcwhite3@well.com Vehicle Epsom Green Discovery License CA 3MRV171 Features SG bumper w/Warn winch, GP roof rack, Hella Lights Doug Forehand dwf@eng.sun.com Vehicle Avalon Blue Discovery License CA 3PBB648 Features Factory winch kit Steve & Janet Hedke britpac@cyberjava.com Vehicle Limestone Green Series 2A 88" "Hippo" License (Think it has one) Features Pickup cab with cab rack, fresh Pastel/limestone paint, new galvanizing Paul Archibald (parch@smmff.com) Vehicle Silver 1987 Range Rover License CA 2XRE147 Features Air-dam removed, extra squeaky brakes(this costs extra!) J D Feemster jfeemste@adobe.com Vehicle Bronze Green Series III 88 License CA EPC 701J Features Koenig PTO winch, Brownchurch roof rack (maybe) Michael Slade slade@sisna.com Vehicle Pastel Green 70 109 Station Wagon License OR Features carrying my son Connor around in the backpack Stephanie Changris changris@netcom.com Vehicle 95 D90SW License CA Features D90 is named "Stella" ------------------------------------ From: KKelly6788@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 22:09:01 -0400 Subject: Trees in the road >Several times we came across a small tree right in the middle of the road >confirming that no one had been down this road in a while. Most of the >trees we could drive over, but several were 5'-6' tall with 2" diameter >trunks and I only have that plastic Land Rover thingy for a front end. >Damn! I left my ax back at the camp. It must have looked silly to see Bob, >his bum leg, and me attempting to fall a tree by bending it over and >bludgeoning it at the base with a rock. I recommend that every one keep a folding bow saw (Craftsman make a great one for <$10) in their Land Rover all the time. I have used mine to get through tight sections of trails without scratching my plushmobiles paint and to get through low sections with the mountain bikes on the roof rack. Kevin Kelly ------------------------------------ From: Richard Justin Chala Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 19:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: PARTS I have recently finished my engine conversion on my Ser. III 88". I have been left with some parts which I have no use for. I am now looking to sell them. All parts are in Portland, Oregon. Parts are as follows: * 2.25 engine complete; still mated to the bell housing, just ready to bolt in. Was good running and never before been rebuilt. (probably needs a rebuild, for it burns some oil and there is some blow-by while shifting and upon ignition) * Series III transmission/gearbox; Once rebuilt and in great shape except for the 3rd to 4th synchro. * Rear end complete with brake backing plates and drums;minus passenger side half-shaft; diff in good condition. * Front differential; not used much and is obvious by seeing the rust on the inside of the carrier housing and on the R & P. That is all I could think of now I'll let you know if I have anything else. Richard Chala rchala@gladstone.uoregon.edu ------------------------------------ From: "Tom Walsh" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 10:59:33 +0000 Subject: Re: Paradise pics No Light Brigade shots? Gee I shoulda got a defender I guess huh! :) must've forgot huh! I think I have some good ones ( Bruce playing lumber jack etc.. ) This weekend I will upload a new page with text and pics I have been working on I hope I have everyone covered ( probably not.. but I tried! ). Sorry its so late but its the best I can do! > > > Greetings, > > Among my Paradise photos is a very nice shot of Don in his orange Series > with at least two feet of air under his right front tire. I imagine he > would like to have a copy. Anyone know how to get in touch with him? I > don't think he is on the list. DonaldX Morton > > In the background of the shot, you can just make out Mike Slade's 109 > tilting at the opposite angle. As much as I adore Spot and Stella, I have > to admit the 90s aren't nearly as photogenic as the Series rigs. > > I also have a pic of Scott B in the same spot, but it's not quite so > dramatic -- only a couple of inches of air under the Rangie tire. > > There are also the usual shots of the D90s and Queenie making steep rocky > chutes look easy -- Lynn & Jim, Rick, Jeremy, and Eric, I'll hand them > over next time we meet. > > > Stephanie > 95 D90 SW "Stella" > > ---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* Fluent Networks "Intelligent Networking Solutions" Tom Walsh, Founder, VP Technology/Engineering tomw@netcom.com soon to be tomw@fluentnet.com http://www.fluentnet.com 95 LR Disco "The Light Brigade" #include *---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* ------------------------------------ From: "Tom Walsh" Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:00:58 +0000 Subject: Re: Paradise pics > Stephanie, you tempt me by writing... > > > > >In the background of the shot, you can just make out Mike Slade's 109 > >tilting at the opposite angle. As much as I adore Spot and Stella, I have > >to admit the 90s aren't nearly as photogenic as the Series rigs. > > > > I'll be bringing a bunch of slides to the PABFM for those of you from CA > that might be showing up (is there a tally yet?). > > Got some good shots of your White D90, a sweet shot of "The Light Brigade", > and a few others that are nice (Ben's 88 with some nice flowers in the > foreground). > > Hope to see you there. Maybe we can trade prints? I wish I could go but mother time isn't being nice enough this weekend! Tomw > > > Michael Slade > '70 109 Station Wagon > Portland, OR > slade@sisna.com > > > ---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* Fluent Networks "Intelligent Networking Solutions" Tom Walsh, Founder, VP Technology/Engineering tomw@netcom.com soon to be tomw@fluentnet.com http://www.fluentnet.com 95 LR Disco "The Light Brigade" #include *---------*---------*---------*---------*---------*---------* ------------------------------------ From: jhong@haiku.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 22:58:34 -0700 Subject: Don Morton, hydro winch, so that's what JB did with the badge Hi Folks, So Stephanie is looking for Don Morton...well who do you thing drives over and parks right next to me today...Don! He spotted me toiling on the 109 and stopped by for a howdy and returned soon after in his 88. We had a nice chat - he mentioned he was looking forward very much to seeing the photos. I'm pretty sure he is on the list. (i'll send you his email) And we talked about getting a South Bay getogether...Ben when are you in town? Jeremy, we'd invite you down to distribute badges but now we all know that there really aren't any badges and you spent da dough on Winston! :) Bob Watson mentions PTOs and hydraulic winches...I picked up a copy of "Four Wheeler" (sept) to see what kind of tire deals were around (I was really looking for prices from the "major" tire co.s vs the "specialists" like Cepek, Superswamper, etc...one would think that Goodrich is the only "major" maker in offroad tires...) Anyway, they had an article about Mile Marker Hydro's hydraulic winch that ran off of a powersteering pump...I'm going to make an inquiry to these folks (800 426 8646) and will post if I learn anything interesting. This got me thinking...if you *really* were having bad luck and lost engine power and electricity, could you use a manual hydralic pump to drive such a winch? (slowly but surely? also said of highlift jacks!) This issue also had a 101 story as this month's "Old News" column? A pretty matter of fact and respectful write up on this lovely vehicle...sigh! Be still my beating heart! Back to tires, several folk have mentioned the Tire Rack - guess what you get if you point your web browser to tirerack.com...pretty decent prices...will probably get a copy of car and driver for some other mail order tire places... And then probably get Goodrich ???/Terrains unless I find some info on them fancy Goodyears (goodyear.com!) aloha john ------------------------------------ From: slade@sisna.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 23:13:07 -0700 Subject: Galvanized D90 All, I ran into apparently ex-LRO list member Mike Fredette tonight at the Portland monthly LRO meeting. All comments about Mike aside, he's building a pretty cool D90. His latest trick was to remove all of the trim and have it sandblasted and hot-dipped galvanized and then re-rivited back on. It looked great! His truck is Conniston Green, and the galvanizing really brings it back to the series look. After seeing the way his looks it makes me wonder why the crap LR changed it. It's making me think I should have the trim on my 109 re-done. FWIW, he did the work himself (very professionally I might add), but said that it was a pain in the rear. He didn't know if he would do it again, but the results are most pleasing. His truck will be hard to miss, and can be seen this weekend exclusively at our very own Portland All British Field Meet. Oh, it also has a raised air intake and Superwinch X9 in case you miss the galvanizing. Michael Slade '70 109 Station Wagon Portland, OR slade@sisna.com ------------------------------------ End of Digest